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 City of Elmina by Sime Darby v3, Part of Selangor Vision City

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post Feb 27 2023, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Inc. 100 @ Feb 27 2023, 10:47 AM)
An Exciting Era in the City of Elmina
February 27, 2023 00:00 am +08

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/content/adve...the-city-elmina

Some of the most well-known, successful home-grown F&B franchises are coming to the City of Elmina
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Wow Kenny Hill coming, this will be the next Desa Park city? Haha
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post May 15 2023, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(K4iz3n @ May 15 2023, 01:37 AM)
Hello Elminaians

I am thinkimng of purchasing a house in Elmina Gardens. Have a few questionsnto those who are staying there.

1. Considering there is only one road in and out of Elmina Gardens, is there traffic during thr mornings and evenings during peak hours? This is yet to include those from Ilham.
2. How bad is living with the plane noise on a daily basis?

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Hard to say about the traffic since Ilham is not been VP yet, is your planning to stay in Elmina Gardens you are probably looking at bungalow or semi-D? Traffic to Sungai Buloh road should be lesser traffic for you as you don't have to pass the traffic light and can directly connect to Sungai Buloh road or DASH, but going to Sungai Buloh road via HELP University for sure it will have heavy traffic in the morning. For plane noise no comment cause I don't stay there but you will get use to it, once Ilham is up there will more car noise to cover up the airplane noise population.

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post Jun 24 2023, 09:17 AM

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Apparently there is a new Chinese hawker store open this week in E boulevard, right opposite skyhill clinic


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post Aug 13 2023, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Nomad_mercenary @ Aug 12 2023, 05:13 PM)
I’m quite disappointed with the workmanship.
For such a high price, had expected more from Sime Darby.
Anyway, had done the house inspection by professionals, will see how it goes when Sime Darby does the rectification works.
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House of price is irrelevant to the workmanship of the house, if that is the case if i buy a house in SS2 which cost 2 mil, should we expect the house to be in tip top condition even if its 40 years old? Houses are not made by machines, therefore inperfection will always be there regardless what kind of price you pay for the house, the price is driven by demand and location, not by workmanship.

By the way, any report that is done by your house inspector, they will wont manually put that report on Sime Darby app, you have to do everything yourself. House inspectors will overdo with their report and the list can be as long as 50 things, good luck filling all of those in the app plus pictures to support it

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post Sep 11 2023, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Sep 11 2023, 03:37 PM)
Forget about more exit or entrance point for dash. Very obvious SDP can't influence them on this. Otherwise we shall have better dash access directly from Guthrie which is entirely possible but purposely not been done
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I stongly believe there will be a new entry to dash in the coming 5 years, with 2 new high rise building and all new development, the road to Denai Alam cannot hold the number or rising population in the area.
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post Oct 2 2023, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(5115 @ Oct 2 2023, 10:44 AM)
Buy at your own risk guys, the traffic goes from bad to worse.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1699337746975...mibextid=Nif5oz
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Just because there will be more traffic, does not translate to "risk" when your buying a property, more population means more commercial demand and the area will strive. If traffic is a "risk" when buying a property, might as well say all of PJ is a "risk" cause everywhere is jam.

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post Oct 2 2023, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(5115 @ Oct 2 2023, 12:10 PM)
you expect traffic jam of 20-30min in 2km of range in Elmina/Denai Alam during peak hours?
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Whats the difference with other prime location? If you found a prime location which does not have jam during peak hours, by all means please share with us the location so we can all buy it, less "risk" right?
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post Oct 2 2023, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(5115 @ Oct 2 2023, 01:36 PM)
Define prime location.
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Dont have to define a prime location, but your statement about 20-30mins jam for a 2km distance during peak hour isn't it normal in Klang Valley? What is your definition of "peak hour"?
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post Oct 3 2023, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(5115 @ Oct 2 2023, 10:34 PM)
if 20-30min for 2km at THIS location is making sense for you, you are really good in telling jokes.

What is the size of this township?

How many % left are yet to launch?

How many access to exit to other PRIME LOCATION?

What is the distance from this township to those PRIME LOCATION?

Once you got the answers above i don't think you will still think it's normal and fine for the current traffic condition. Things happened for reason, the opening of Shorea brought vehicles from SU, DC, PA & etc, limited access to GCE/Jalan Sg Buloh and lack of monitor on the timing of traffic lights after E-boulevard.

I've been here since 2018, nowadays traffic starts to build up min 700m from the traffic light at around 6.30am and all the way to 2km at 7.45am. For those who said buyer should expect this, make sure you have been gone through the traffic between 7am-9am & 6pm-8pm.

In case nobody could read the FB link I shared, it's a thread posted in Elmina, Denai Alam & Bukit Subang Residents' group. Trying to get residents to fill up online complain form and a draft is provided with proposal of solutions.

Other than accepting whatever happening to us, taking all these traffic jam as normal in this PRIME LOCATION, the least we can do is lodge the complain & get SDP/MBSA to do something. Something practical before the high rise Habitus & Tulip VPed.

Potential buyer should ask SA, what are the solutions from SDP on this. FYI, city councilor Shakir Ameer had responded in the FB post, saying that they will do something ASAP. Anyway, we need to keep chasing them or else it's possible nothing would have changed.
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I have been staying here since 2019, and I have been coming to this area since 2010, so I can well aware of the traffic pattern behavior and changes for the past 10 years. If you had stayed here since 2018 like you mention, the traffic condition is almost non existent, commercial lots are empty the parking area in the E-Boulevard is empty, your able to park anywhere without any issue, and the parking was free back then.

Fast forward to 2023, commercial lots are mostly all taken up, parking is harder to find and shops are fighting to rent the prime spots. What changes that would result in this situation? That could only mean that the population has increase dramatically and causes the influx of this the traffic issues.

I would guess SD would not take any action back then as the there is no need for any changes as the traffic is different back then, now that the population has suddenly increase for the past 3 years you would probably see studies has been made and there might be plans to make changes, but this process is not a quick process.

For someone take is able to work Hybrid and reach office anytime, this would not be a factor as the traffic is smooth pass peak hour, but if you live in PJ, there is always cars everywhere and roads are never empty.

My major complain is the traffic light that is coming back to Denai Alam, even on weekends that line will stretch way longer that I want it to be because that is the only entry besides Guthrie to Denai Alam/Elmina.
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post Oct 3 2023, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(IefGnow @ Oct 3 2023, 11:34 AM)
I just have a thought. Just like how in any non property project, whether IT or manufacturing, you need some capacity planning aspect to be considered. Not just production throughput but post production. Eg why would I build a data center or server farm in a place with poor infra and poor connectivity. So in the same way why does developers build a so called master plan of a city with 50k residents and not plan the traffic? Wouldn’t there be some plan that needs to be approved by government before approving? Sorry I don’t work for a developer so I don’t know. But it makes sense to me and somehow when you look at current developments, Elmina for example, we don’t see a proper plan. The roads and roundabouts in Denai etc are so small.
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My only thought is probably the cost to build or widen the roads, I cant assume how much it would take to get to that point but my guess the cost its in millions. I would also think that MBSA would need to get involved in such manner as they are the ones that needs to maintain the roads
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post Oct 3 2023, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(5115 @ Oct 3 2023, 07:41 AM)
lol... glad you got something to complain now. seriously, comparing here with PJ is another jokes. there are over thousands acres yet to develop here and as you mentioned above, there is only entry besides Guthrie to Denai Alam/Elmina.

expecting SDP to do something while telling everyone it's normal on current traffic condition is hilarious. im moving from kepong and i know how bad it could be. that PRIME LOCATION has almost everything we need within 5km radius, here?

i do understand more population will cause heavy traffic and brought more commercial activities but related parties seems doing nothing.. at least get related parties to studies on the traffic flows and set the traffic light timing or arrange for traffic police on duty at the traffic lights during peak hour.
ya, i noticed the changes at E-Boulevard, the MBSA officer came to issue parking ticket more often nowadays. parking is not difficult to find like other PRIME LOCATION, you just need to park further. I hv been running my biz few km away since 2009, staying at U5 since 2010 and i know what im talking about. the risk that i was saying is things is getting out of hand, buyers should be aware of it and we should start pushing SDP/authorities to do something ie: direct access to DASH, solution on smoother traffic dispersion, traffic police on duty at the traffic lights between 7-9am, 5-8pm and etc.

sharing the full post from the FB group in case the link i shared is not accessible, everyone are welcome to lodge the complain online and share it to someone that really care. you may just edit as you like and propose to MBSA if you have better idea.
Kesesakan trafik di Persiaran Elektron yang makin melampau. Gambar diambil pada 26 Sep 2023 7.45pg.

Mohon jasa baik saudara2 buat aduan kat MBSA:

https://selangor.spab.gov.my/.../sdms.../SdmsCasePool/add.do

faridah@mbsa.com.my
Salam sejahtera diucapkan kepada tuan, saya merujuk perkara diatas dan bermohon jasa baik Tuan dapat menyelesaikan masalah ini secepat mungkin.

Kesesakan trafik di Persiaran Elektron semakin teruk sejak pembukaan Persiaran Shorea. Terutamanya antara 7pagi-9pagi, ia mengambil masa lebih daripada 25min untuk bergerak dari Bulatan Elmina ke lampu trafik di Wisma Johawaki yang hanya jaraknya 3km. Aliran trafik sebenarnya disekat oleh lampu trafik pertama selepas E-Boulevard dan trafik disebelah kiri yang menghala ke arah Sungai Buloh.

Cadangan saya adalah membuat sekatan lampu trafik berjadual di simpang jalan dari/ke GCE yang susur masuk/keluar ke Persiaran Elektron supaya aliran trafik dari Elmina & Kampung Melayu Subang dapat dijalankan lancar. Segala kenderaan yang berniat untuk belok kanan (dari GCE Selatan ke Kampung Melayu Subang/ dari GCE Utara ke arah Denai Alam) hanya dibenarkan belok kiri dan ambil U turn samada di Bulatan selepas Caltex ataupun persimpangan di depan Wisma Johawaki.

Selain daripada itu, pihak Tuan boleh cuba menyekat lampu trafik di simpang Jalan Buki Badak, Jalan PKNS, Jalan Merbau & Jalan Tembusu supaya segala kenderaan yang berniat untuk belok kanan ke arah Sungai Buloh  atau Shah Alam hanya dibenarkan belok kiri dan U turn di bawah jambatan depan Wisma Johawaki atau U turn di depan Surau Wildan, Subang Perdana. Saya percaya ianya dapat mengurangkan kesesakan trafik 2 hala Jalan Sungai Buloh sedangkan jarak antara 2 lokasi U-turn hanya 2km. Dengan adanya sekatan simpang diatas, aliran trafik akan menjadi lancar & tiada masalah untuk kenderaan yang perlu untuk mengambil U-turn di dua-dua lokasi ini.

Saya berharap pihak Tuan dapat pertimbangkan cadangan saya atau sekurang-kurangnya meminta bantuan Polis Trafik untuk mengendali kesesakan trafik ini pada hari bekerja, pukul 7pagi-9pagi & 5.30petang-8malam.

Sekian,
Terima Kasih.
(coincidently, YB Izham Selangor EXCO Infra, city councilor Shakir Ameer and few RA representative had a meeting 1 day after the FB post were shared)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/16993377469...606195339623249
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I agree that the implementation of DASH is poorly done, they are just directing the cars exiting from DASH to Elmina by joining to the main road below the highway, adding traffic which is undesired.

If they were to build a new exit right after denai alam toll, that would split the traffic to those want to go to Elmina or Denai Alam, they build the highyway in such a way u have to pay toll if your on the highway which is poor design to collect as many toll fee as possbile but building shitty exits.

I believe Persian Shorea users are mostly using the road leading the Help University in the morning, and the traffic is equally as bad in the morning there as i personally witness.

Like you said, if people start to make the same aduans about the traffic to the authorities, then things will probably move faster, also depend how "hard working" the MP is....

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post Oct 3 2023, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(redondo88 @ Oct 3 2023, 04:53 PM)
Elmina ain't prime. It is a satellite township, its all just residential, thousands of vehicles goes in & out to work. These kind of township usually experience worse (longer) jams on peak hours. Another example look at Nilai/Seremban/Sendayan to KL every morning & evening.
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A satellite township would probably be a better term, there are less office buildings in the area and more so to residential.

But one i think i notice anout Elmina/Denai Alam, they implement roundabouts instead of traffic lights, so going between places within the area is actually quite fast and without alot of waiting time.

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post Oct 3 2023, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(IWannAAR @ Oct 3 2023, 07:16 PM)
thank you @5115 for rationally sharing the truth here for potential buyers

its incredible there are people who are still defending and trying to figure ways to sugar coat the truth by comparing with PJ

maybe thats why this place end up the way it is now, because everything is so called "well and proper", no improvement needed, hence becoming worse.

pity those who stay here as there are so many who are still in denial -  downplaying the negatives and overhyping the fake positives lol
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Lol your statement sound very salty, we dont need the "pity". We did not say improvement is not needed, but this thing takes time. Your welcome to go and buy any subsale in any good area, your 'pity' is not welcome here.

And not sure what do you mean by "end up this way", I have 2 person that visited my house and 2 years later both of them bought a unit, 1 in EV5 and Ilham 2, try finding a new landed home freehold now which is nearest to PJ, Subang, u can hardly find any.

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post Oct 15 2023, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Oct 15 2023, 03:36 PM)
For new launch landed, this is indeed one of the better ones, no doubt.

But for me, I'm going back to look at subsale within Bandar Utama, Damansara Utama, Bandar Sri Damansara area. No other option.

Kwasa Land will have same landed properties but they will all be well above RM1mil.
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Usually if your from PJ, its normal to find another subsale property in the same area as your familiar with the area, but you really need a lot of cash in hand as down payment + reno will literally wipe out almost your entire saving. If you have FAMA help to settle the down payment of the house, then you can use your own money for the reno, landed house price in PJ price is no joke..

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post Oct 20 2023, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Oct 20 2023, 01:06 PM)
Maybe in the near future, would appreciate if Ilham buyers let us know what sort of renovation can be done to their homes. Things like grilles on the exterior or need to be inside. Planning to get the security screen/ mosquito netting installed on inside. Can be done?
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Dont really recommend to put grills on your hse, strata landed hse is more secure, grills just make your facade loses its beauty appeal. I believe the window glass are already shattered proof and the main door is a security door standard, unlike a normal door.

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Jan 5 2024, 01:44 PM)
Boss,
This just next to ER1, corner unit, subsale.
Superlink intermediate in ER1 oledi 1.3mil

This leng mou?
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What the heck Ferrea corner lot facing the Elmina Ridge side is only 1.3mil? Owner must be wanting to do fast sell because that is the price on launch, and its fully furnished???

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post Apr 26 2024, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Apr 26 2024, 09:53 AM)
So now have to go through the roundabouts to enter GCE. Wonder if this will improve or worsen traffic?
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I think it will help, with this new flow the traffic will always constantly move, the previous flow was that the cars are stopped before exiting Guthrie because they have to wait for the opposite cars to pass by before they can go.
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QUOTE(lildocker @ Apr 26 2024, 01:35 PM)
The traffic still will not constantly move. Instead of stopping before exiting to Guthrie, cars will stop before entering roundabouts. This is because each roundabout has four exits/entrances, so when cars try to enter from one entrance, the cars inside the roundabouts will slow down, and cars from other directions will be unable to enter the roundabouts.
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I think they are trying to copy what Subang did with the exit from USJ to Kesas, maybe they got pressured to do something and they have to see if the result is worse or better, unfortunately i don't use that road unless i got to Temu so I cant comment the on the current traffic.
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QUOTE(milipem @ Nov 15 2024, 05:35 PM)
no need to complain la. property expert will say jam is good what. jam = pj lol. no jam no good!

people finally feel the impact already. its pure logic that this eventually happens

in pj if i jam 20 mins at least i can get everything i need. if 20mins jam here just to exit, really kesian. then go to pj jam another time lol

in the end i feel the residents got this to themselves. many were defensive and protective of the image of elmina because worry these claims tarnish the developement, end up nothing being done until now need to collect petition lol

one of the forummer here pointed out something very true. this place has so many parks and misc stuff but miss out on the important elements. its alot of gimmick but not enough substance. even the "mall" has so many cons but again people sugar coat it and manipulate it as unique etc lol
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In Pj, 20 mins to drive to 99 speedmart with no parking available to get your things vs me 5 mins to get there with parking here. Only reason people getting out now from Elmina area is to access the bigger malls and usually thats only for weekend, the rest everything can be obtain within Elmina itself.
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post Dec 1 2024, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(milipem @ Dec 1 2024, 06:36 PM)
i also find the contradictions here ironic

- claims elmina is peaceful and quiet place but so many complaining about crowd, jams and rempits
- claims elmina is complete, no need go anywhere but at the same time, people still have to keep promoting about going to kl/pj with dash only takes 20 mins and mrt which is non existence
- claims it only takes 20 mins to go to anywhere else but jam just to exit taman already more than 20 mins
- then blames the jam due to neighbouring township but own development keep building "attractions" with poor layout planning (eg: praise all the schools being built but ignore the weird planning, praise mall with poor parking planning, praise the many many parks opened for even more non residents)

so many ifs, buts and excuses to downplay and manipulate the issues

the amount of jilat and sugarcoating grandiose claims here is insane, can't even keep the story straight and consistent already
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Seeing the prices for the secondary market for landed houses in Elmina, definitely doesn't require any sugarcoat as the buyers would already did research for other landed projects in other areas and most of them are not even close to what Elmina has to offer. Most of the folks that bought the houses on the early stages at launch prices has already benefited on the progress for the last 3 years or so, those who wants to buy at the current market rate will of course mark all the cons to further support their opinions. Tell me which area during office peak hours doesn't need to go thru the jam during the rush hours? The exit from Elimina which was exaggerated which requires 20 mins to exit only happens at rush hours, other than those hours its smooth. Only those not living in the area has no idea what are they talking about, and the rempits has already been gone for 1 month already which the police enforcers patrolling on weekends.

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