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 The iPhone XS / XS Max Discussion Thread | V4, Welcome to the big screens.

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celciuz
post Dec 5 2018, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Dec 5 2018, 11:51 AM)
Keke the charts showing till 80% only.
If charge from 80 to 100% this is taking more than double charging time than the normal charged.
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Include 80% to 100% the differences becomes less because iOS starts to throttle the speed down. Was doing manual calculation seems it charges at about 500 mAh above 90%.
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post Dec 5 2018, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Dec 5 2018, 12:39 PM)
No issue I got these πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Mine MIA halfway from China πŸ˜… this one supports Type C right? Send me the link I wanna buy one hehe.
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post Dec 5 2018, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Dec 5 2018, 01:58 PM)
But you will getting blur for many PDs all the data was varies.
If you had just one PD than no issue. πŸ˜…πŸ˜…

Look what I found on AliExpress
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/buC8Vz03
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Thanks!

QUOTE(chrischiang @ Dec 5 2018, 02:06 PM)
Yea no doubt ipad charger has higher CP rate, like i always share previously get ipad charger instead of PD if you dont plan to get ori lightning cable.

but PD compared to ipad charger is not small little advantage.. In 30mins time.. 10% of different is alot... 10% of battery life can easily last you 1-2hours.

not to forget this is ipad charger 12W which come tgt with ipad pro.. the ipad charger you got with normal ipad would be 10w..that might be slightly slower..
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My iPad Air (first generation) came with 12W charger though. Top is the iPad 2, bottom is iPad Air.

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post Dec 5 2018, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Dec 5 2018, 02:13 PM)
If you guy wanna cheap Pd for 18W can decide to get it. I got mine too.

Make sure don’t buy together with their lightning cable, won’t come with fast charging capable.

Look what I found on AliExpress
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/c9lNXqX

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This one seems slower than the iPad charger? This is 5V at 1.7A? 8.5A?

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post Dec 5 2018, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Dec 5 2018, 02:42 PM)
I test once, from 70% will be on 5V
Around 50% will be on 9V
Some can hit 15V

I also dunno how to read it, just calculated charging from 1-100 and see how fast they are.

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P=VI so basically the first one is 15W second one is 18W.

Hmm the PD is running on different voltage charge profile eh across the board.

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post Dec 5 2018, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Dec 5 2018, 02:50 PM)
The most accurate was here.
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I’m more interested in the charging patterns πŸ˜‚ once you get the charge profile then can just calculate the time easily.
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post Dec 6 2018, 07:11 AM

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Wife's XS is 99% battery life now... got it last month only zomg ._. while my XS Max 2 months ago still 100%.
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post Dec 9 2018, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Dec 9 2018, 07:07 AM)
Here u go.
Good n cheap , baseus clear case

Look what I found on AliExpress
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/b0r7PLC7
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Bought the teddy bear case for wife from Baseus, finishing is good haven't tried it on as still using Ultra Hybrid. Might give this a try in the future instead hehe.
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post Dec 15 2018, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Dec 15 2018, 08:14 AM)
only for Yellow color 80% off till 16/12

p/s: just got 1 for myself because of cheap πŸ˜… like the color

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Thanks bro! Ordered one smile.gif, gonna see how a Otterbox feels... never used one before.
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post Dec 15 2018, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Dec 15 2018, 09:09 PM)
Welcome bro. Sharing is caring. I bought 3pcs. Can give as Christmas gift/Birthday gift to my friends etc πŸ˜‚

Own 1 before this for iPhone SE. Feel great and not too bulky
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Well I hope it isn't much bulkier than the Ringke Fusion I'm using now.
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post Dec 15 2018, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Dec 15 2018, 10:51 PM)
Based on experience, it is much bulkier biggrin.gif
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bangwall.gif Oh well, never mind its cheap tongue.gif

QUOTE(wtw0911 @ Dec 15 2018, 11:06 PM)
Which Ringke Fusion are you using may I ask? The Ringke Fusion clear case that I am using right now doesn't feel bulky  hmm.gif
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Yeah the Ringke Fusion Clear, well I was using SolidSuit on the 6+ previously, definitely more slim compared to the Ringke Fusion XS Max.
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post Dec 15 2018, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(fiqqq @ Dec 15 2018, 11:11 PM)
Wish they have the same price for X/Xs too!
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I suspect they might have did wrong configuration hmm.gif
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post Dec 16 2018, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(attw @ Dec 14 2018, 07:30 PM)
You mean the cable cuts off the power supply when the battery is charge then three hours later it'll automatically restart charging? What if the battery is still 100% then?
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I wonder if this is the usual behavior of iOS? Anyone charging overnight could share the charging pattern perhaps?
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post Dec 18 2018, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Dec 18 2018, 09:11 AM)
Item received πŸ˜…

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Mine is otw too, this is really cheap 😝 maybe I should grab a few spare if it fits my taste.
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post Jan 12 2019, 10:05 AM

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So I was trying to avoid overcharging my XS Max by putting timer on the chargers, but somewhat only the 5W original charger timing was right and the other 10W, 12W chargers were way off (meaning it was much lower % charged). Decided to buy the USB tester and found my XS Max only charging at 1.5A to 1.8A on these chargers... (they are all Apple chargers and original apple USB cables).

But using the same charger, if I plug into my Anker powerbank which accepts 2A charging... it showed 2A... hmm
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post Jan 12 2019, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Jan 12 2019, 10:24 AM)
The original Apple USB A come with box. No issue to support with 5.2A - 2.4V Max. I had test it before with USB tester.

Make sure your charger can support up to 3.0 QC capable = 5A/3A , 9/2.4, 12/1.5V = 18W Type A.
Not the 5A/2.4 or 2.5A Max.

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This baseus cable same as Apple original Type A.
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Fully charged from 1-100% took 130minutes for those 5A/2.4A Max cable on type A cable.
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Bro, your example is different cable same charger right?

If you see carefully your photo, first one is 1.43A / 7.12W, while second one is 2.34A / 11.95W... wah seh the cable make so much diff ohmy.gif. What is this 2 cable differences? My original cable can't even get 2A on the same charger which can charge my Anker powerbank at 2A.
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post Jan 12 2019, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Jan 12 2019, 01:28 PM)
Same cable different charger.
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Apple 5W + original cable = 0.97A more or less there.

Samsung charger? = 0.97A

UG QC3.0 = 2.05A... but still no where close to 2.4A...

Hmm, which means pretty much I haven't seen one where XS Max able to hit 2.4A on Type A...

I have been wondering why my CarPlay socket is rated 1.5A but the charge speed is really slow... like my original socket... this assured me... when CarPlay is enabled, it charges at 1A, while if CarPlay disabled it draws 1.5A power instead.
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post Jan 12 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Jan 12 2019, 02:47 PM)
Haha same cable in differences device all the current draw in are variable.

ZMI powerbank
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Type C original Apple cable
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ZMI 3 ports with type C PD
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ZMI 5k powerbank with instant charger.
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Charger from powerbank
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This Baseus cheap cable to producer up to 2.4A Max.
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif nice set of data there!

Summarizing it,

ZMI Powerbank with Baseus cable 1.69A / 8.48W
ZMI Powerbank + Apple Type C 2.11A / 19W <-- this is the real deal...
ZMI 3 ports + ??? cable --> 2.34A / 12.16W <-- top speed for usb A
ZMI 5k with instant charger --> 2.34A / 12.23W <-- top speed for usb A
ZMI 5k powerbank --> 1.86A / 10W

Could you do me a favor... if you have one of those 10W/12W apple charger, can you see what values are you getting? mine both can't even get close to 2A... using original apple cable, wonder if that baseus can get 2A on it.
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post Jan 12 2019, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Jan 12 2019, 04:22 PM)
The sadly I don’t have Apple ipad 10/12W charger.
In my experience to test from 12W non Apple charger the TOP speed was 5V / 1.65A around there.
If 18W 5/2.5A charger then go up 5V/1.9A max charging speed.
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Weird part is my XS Max charges at 1.5A roughly on the 10W charger, but using the same 10W charger to charge my Anker powerbank it goes up to 2A.

Anyways, to those worried about overcharging their iPhone overnight, I let mine charge until 100% and continue. Once it touches 100%, it will slowly ramp down the charge rate until 0.00 ~ 0.01A after approximately 1 hour.

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However, if you wake the phone up it will immediately start charging or is it using power from the supply itself. After screen turn off then it will go back to 0A.

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post Jan 12 2019, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Jan 12 2019, 06:42 PM)
Lol, how many percent battery now?
Seen like more than 80% of cause less than 1A only.
Try to charging from 40-60% battery left
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Keep plug in and out die man my XS Max mia port haha! Now I put my old 6 Plus for white mouse... trying see which combination I can get above 1.5A LOL.

80% onwards I think is 1A, until about 95% then I slowly drop to 0.5A, 0.3A etc. Once it touch 100%... it become very low... I think it trickle charge until full it stop supplying.

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