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TSycycqwe
post Nov 1 2018, 03:36 PM, updated 8y ago

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Hi guys,
wanna to ask about car loan agreement.

I booked a car and my loan application is approved.
banker called to me sign loan agreement but somehow SA can't confirmed when have car for me.

SA gave me reasonable discount and this discount only valid before end of this year, he claimed if i collect my car next year, then the discount is different. (can't confirm how much different since it's manufacturing year 2019).

question:
1. Should I sign loan agreement first? or wait until SA have car for me only sign loan agreement?
2. If i sign loan agreement now, can I cancel the loan if next year discount is very very low and doesn't worth to take it?

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post Nov 1 2018, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 1 2018, 03:36 PM)
Hi guys,
wanna to ask about car loan agreement.

I booked a car and my loan application is approved.
banker called to me sign loan agreement but somehow SA can't confirmed when have car for me.

SA gave me reasonable discount and this discount only valid before end of this year, he claimed if i collect my car next year, then the discount is different. (can't confirm how much different since it's manufacturing year 2019).

question:
1. Should I sign loan agreement first? or wait until SA have car for me only sign loan agreement?
2. If i sign loan agreement now, can I cancel the loan if next year discount is very very low and doesn't worth to take it?

appreciate ur comment and answer  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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You can sign first, because SA usually will book the car for you after your agreement is being signed.
I gone through this, i booked for myvi, signed the loan agreement in july yet till october also havent get the car.
So i cancelled the booking and the loan. No problem when i apply for another loan to purchase another car.
TSycycqwe
post Nov 1 2018, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(SonsOfAnarchy @ Nov 1 2018, 03:40 PM)
SA will only react after see your LOA(loan agreement), nowadays no LOA no talk. Becoz past experience they susah susah find car then buyer loan not approved, end up not buyin and waste their time.
U can sign now and cancel loan later, if not mistaken the loan agreement will pending until the SA actually register it with ur car. if not register a car within few mths(not sure how many months alrdy, u can check with bank) then the loan will be cancel.
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my loan is approved, SA should find car for me right?

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post Nov 1 2018, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(poiy33 @ Nov 1 2018, 03:44 PM)
You can sign first, because SA usually will book the car for you after your agreement is being signed.
I gone through this, i booked for myvi, signed the loan agreement in july yet till october also havent get the car.
So i cancelled the booking and the loan. No problem when i apply for another loan to purchase another car.
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any cancellation fee charges??? booking fee can refund?
TSycycqwe
post Nov 1 2018, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(SonsOfAnarchy @ Nov 1 2018, 04:03 PM)
Tell your SA your loan is approved and they should find the car for you very fast. Normally loan not approved SA manyak lansi dowan layan u one.
Once loan approved they like dog saliva everywhere want to do your business already.
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SA already know my loan is approved, SA said will try his best to find car for me. But when have car still unknown whistling.gif

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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 1 2018, 03:52 PM)
any cancellation fee charges??? booking fee can refund?
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no cancellation fee. my SA say booking fee will be refunded, but i'm still waiting la icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 1 2018, 04:13 PM

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If not mistaken, loan agreement only last for 3 months (at least for my case lah). If within 3 months after u signed the agreement, still no car, then, u need to re-apply again.

But, what if Bank Negara rate goes up, interest rate goes up, do u get the old rate or new higher rate? Then, u will use new, higher rate if u re-apply. But, if rate fall, of course, u will get the lower rate lor....


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post Nov 1 2018, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 1 2018, 03:51 PM)
my loan is approved, SA should find car for me right?
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By right, your SA should start book for your car the moment u put in deposits. Then, when about time to get delivery of your car, they will follow up (depends on SA lah) whether your loan everything in order or not, and ask u to prepare make payment to the balance of down payment, if any. Then, once confirm the loan approved, balance of down payment settled, they will release the car to u.

So, loan can take your own sweet time one, but, of course, some SA might want to wait to see loan approved only book car (especially car less in demand, exotic car), but, for common car, if your loan not approved, they just release out to next customer jer......additional paperwork lah....
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post Nov 1 2018, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 1 2018, 04:13 PM)
If not mistaken, loan agreement only last for 3 months (at least for my case lah). If within 3 months after u signed the agreement, still no car, then, u need to re-apply again.

But, what if Bank Negara rate goes up, interest rate goes up, do u get the old rate or new higher rate? Then, u will use new, higher rate if u re-apply. But, if rate fall, of course, u will get the lower rate lor....
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3 months is from the date u signed? or from the date loan approved?
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post Nov 1 2018, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(SonsOfAnarchy @ Nov 1 2018, 04:09 PM)
give him 1 week then u call ask again, by the way what model?
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Honda CRV, heard that hard to get car by this year, most of them sold out mega_shok.gif
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post Nov 1 2018, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 1 2018, 04:18 PM)
3 months is from the date u signed? or from the date loan approved?
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Signed. Coz my loan was approved 1-2 months, verbally lah....but, since no car, i also lazy, the bank oso didn't chase. Then, after I ask, only they start to chase me to sign, but, then, car also not arrived lah....

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post Nov 1 2018, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(SonsOfAnarchy @ Nov 1 2018, 04:24 PM)
hmm, ic...honda car maybe need to wait lar coz high demand, or your SA may get back to u suggesting other available color.
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i booked for modern steel or dark blue.
yesterday SA told me have black olive but i reject rclxms.gif
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post Nov 1 2018, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 1 2018, 04:17 PM)
By right, your SA should start book for your car the moment u put in deposits. Then, when about time to get delivery of your car, they will follow up (depends on SA lah) whether your loan everything in order or not, and ask u to prepare make payment to the balance of down payment, if any. Then, once confirm the loan approved, balance of down payment settled, they will release the car to u.

So, loan can take your own sweet time one, but, of course, some SA might want to wait to see loan approved only book car (especially car less in demand, exotic car), but, for common car, if your loan not approved, they just release out to next customer jer......additional paperwork lah....
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if SA confirm have call for me, then i will pay deposit. now only pay 1k for booking fee and loan is approved.
hopefully SA have car for me, then i can go sign agreement and give deposit.

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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 1 2018, 05:00 PM)
if SA confirm have call for me, then i will pay deposit. now only pay 1k for booking fee and loan is approved.
hopefully SA have car for me, then i can go sign agreement and give deposit.
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This how Honda work, as what my SA told me lah........once u put down your booking fee, they will input into the system which link to Honda Malaysia lah.....then, behind scene, Honda will collect or use this info for the manufacturing planning.

Then, beginning of month (or mid, or end, not important lah, most important is timeline), they will send out car to be deliver within that month, i.e. 30 days or 3-4 weeks time lah to all dealers. Then, the dealer boss will allocate out the SA lor.......it is then up to SA want to tell u or not lah, like my SA, he called me lah, eh, Mr 2feidei, your car will be arriving xx month lah, u still want or not ah? (Reason coz I book during tax holiday period, but, car kenot arrived on time). If u want, they will continue queue for u lor, if no, then, they release it out to others lor.

Once I said ok, then, he arrange for necessary loan for me lah. All kaotim within 2-3 days, approved, but, since no car I pun relek lor......no chase agreement.

Then, 2 weeks before actual delivery, this time, they already can confirm with u, exact date u can collect your car, he will ask u settle all outstanding down payment.

So, conclusion, very high chances either your SA also don't know your current queue and estimate arrival, therefore, no tell u. Or, they roughly know, but, don't want to tell, coz later tell u jor, cannot deliver, kena from u. So, even they tell u also, they can only tell u, agak agak when arrived only, +/- 1-2 months gap
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post Nov 1 2018, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 1 2018, 05:00 PM)
if SA confirm have call for me, then i will pay deposit. now only pay 1k for booking fee and loan is approved.
hopefully SA have car for me, then i can go sign agreement and give deposit.
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My suggestion lah, signing loan agreement is not important, it will lapse even after u sign if u don't get your car, so, u sign now or sign later, no problem. Does not mean once u sign, u start paying installment.

What's important is when u get your car. Pertaining discount, it depends lah, usually Dec discount won't be lower than Nov discount one lah, if not more. Jan 19, cannot say lah, new year jor......although still 2018 manufactured.

So, u can tell your SA (at least this what I told him lah), I don't care when car arrived, but, the discount must not lower than what I book that time, else, please auto-cancel.

So, I missed the tax free period, Oct car not arrived, but only arrived in Nov, I told him, if Nov discount lower than Oct, I will cancelled it.
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post Nov 1 2018, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 1 2018, 05:13 PM)
This how Honda work, as what my SA told me lah........once u put down your booking fee, they will input into the system which link to Honda Malaysia lah.....then, behind scene, Honda will collect or use this info for the manufacturing planning.

Then, beginning of month (or mid, or end, not important lah, most important is timeline), they will send out car to be deliver within that month, i.e. 30 days or 3-4 weeks time lah to all dealers. Then, the dealer boss will allocate out the SA lor.......it is then up to SA want to tell u or not lah, like my SA, he called me lah, eh, Mr 2feidei, your car will be arriving xx month lah, u still want or not ah? (Reason coz I book during tax holiday period, but, car kenot arrived on time). If u want, they will continue queue for u lor, if no, then, they release it out to others lor.

Once I said ok, then, he arrange for necessary loan for me lah. All kaotim within 2-3 days, approved, but, since no car I pun relek lor......no chase agreement.

Then, 2 weeks before actual delivery, this time, they already can confirm with u, exact date u can collect your car, he will ask u settle all outstanding down payment.

So, conclusion, very high chances either your SA also don't know your current queue and estimate arrival, therefore, no tell u. Or, they roughly know, but, don't want to tell, coz later tell u jor, cannot deliver, kena from u. So, even they tell u also, they can only tell u, agak agak when arrived only, +/- 1-2 months gap
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he late deliver for me it's ok.
what i worry is, after i sign agreement, then car can collect in next year january. suddenly SA told me no more 5k discount due to manufacturing year 2019 new car.
then i GG lo, have to cancel loan some more.
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post Nov 1 2018, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 1 2018, 05:21 PM)
he late deliver for me it's ok.
what i worry is, after i sign agreement, then car can collect in next year january. suddenly SA told me no more 5k discount due to manufacturing year 2019 new car.
then i GG lo, have to cancel loan some more.
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No need, u just don't want take delivery of the car biggrin.gif

Alternative, u don't sign the agreement until they can confirm specifically with engine number and chasis number printed in the loan lor biggrin.gif

but, then, if the loan lapse, u need to re-apply again. If u ask SA do, additional work for them, but that's their role lah....if you apply your own, own legwork lor....

risk will be, will be Bank Negara change interest rate?

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post Nov 1 2018, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 1 2018, 05:27 PM)
No need, u just don't want take delivery of the car  biggrin.gif

Alternative, u don't sign the agreement until they can confirm specifically with engine number and chasis number printed in the loan lor  biggrin.gif

but, then, if the loan lapse, u need to re-apply again. If u ask SA do, additional work for them, but that's their role lah....if you apply your own, own legwork lor....

risk will be, will be Bank Negara change interest rate?
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i more worry about after re-apply, then loan not approve bangwall.gif
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post Nov 1 2018, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 1 2018, 05:19 PM)
My suggestion lah, signing loan agreement is not important, it will lapse even after u sign if u don't get your car, so, u sign now or sign later, no problem. Does not mean once u sign, u start paying installment.

What's important is when u get your car. Pertaining discount, it depends lah, usually Dec discount won't be lower than Nov discount one lah, if not more. Jan 19, cannot say lah, new year jor......although still 2018 manufactured.

So, u can tell your SA (at least this what I told him lah), I don't care when car arrived, but, the discount must not lower than what I book that time, else, please auto-cancel.

So, I missed the tax free period, Oct car not arrived, but only arrived in Nov, I told him, if Nov discount lower than Oct, I will cancelled it.
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i dunno about the discount for nov or dec la.
but SA told me, now no enough car to deliver, definitely nov and dec no special discount.
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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 1 2018, 05:41 PM)
i more worry about after re-apply, then loan not approve  bangwall.gif
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Aik....why approved initially, then, reject subsequently? Unless u got some major change in your financial, then, doubt so lah.....

QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 1 2018, 05:43 PM)
i dunno about the discount for nov or dec la.
but SA told me, now no enough car to deliver, definitely nov and dec no special discount.
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Nov discount out jor. Dec not sure, but, per what SA told me, won't be lower than Nov one lah.....at least match else many will rage and cancel booking. Jan 19, nobody know.
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 1 2018, 05:54 PM)
Aik....why approved initially, then, reject subsequently? Unless u got some major change in your financial, then, doubt so lah.....
Nov discount out jor. Dec not sure, but, per what SA told me, won't be lower than Nov one lah.....at least match else many will rage and cancel booking. Jan 19, nobody know.
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Waa.. nov discount for crv only 4k. Oct also 4K. no different ==

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post Nov 7 2018, 04:41 PM

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must ensure SA got car for you by this year... If no.... Then find another SA in another branch... If all the same... Cancel the Loan and tell the truth to Bank Officer...
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post Nov 8 2018, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(se800i @ Nov 7 2018, 04:41 PM)
must ensure SA got car for you by this year... If no.... Then find another SA in another branch... If all the same... Cancel the Loan and tell the truth to Bank Officer...
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SA keep telling me that no car for now, the answer of "getting car" still unknown.
BANKER keep chasing me to sign agreement, i told him i will sign only when SA give me a confirmation of car collection.
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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 8 2018, 02:52 PM)
SA keep telling me that no car for now, the answer of "getting car" still unknown.
BANKER keep chasing me to sign agreement, i told him i will sign only when SA give me a confirmation of car collection.
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since SA said unknown... Cancel it or find another branch who has the car for you...
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post Nov 8 2018, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(se800i @ Nov 8 2018, 03:40 PM)
since SA said unknown... Cancel it or find another branch who has the car for you...
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can i sign agreement but buy the car from different honda branch?
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post Nov 8 2018, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 8 2018, 04:45 PM)
can i sign agreement but buy the car from different honda branch?
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dont sign first.... try to search other dealer in other honda branch to see if they have a car for u... If they have, then tell them the scenario like tat, ask them can make the loan sign or not... They will know how to do
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post Nov 8 2018, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(se800i @ Nov 8 2018, 04:56 PM)
dont sign first.... try to search other dealer in other honda branch to see if they have a car for u... If they have, then tell them the scenario like tat, ask them can make the loan sign or not... They will know how to do
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okay, thanks for ur advise rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ycycqwe @ Nov 8 2018, 06:12 PM)
okay, thanks for ur advise  rclxms.gif
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If I can help.... sure I will help no worries... You are much welcome...

 

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