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post Oct 31 2018, 07:17 AM, updated 8y ago

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Kia looks good, very well designed, interior is good, price is cheaper.

Toyota is reputable.

Which car below rm110k is a good buy?
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post Oct 31 2018, 07:17 AM

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post Oct 31 2018, 07:18 AM

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K3 is a good buy
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post Oct 31 2018, 07:21 AM

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Right now K3 would be the best, but someone later will mention RV xD. I think post 2012+ kia's car have a good resale value i think.
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post Oct 31 2018, 07:39 AM

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Kia rv problem dude.
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post Oct 31 2018, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 07:17 AM)
Kia looks good, very well designed, interior is good, price is cheaper.

Toyota is reputable.

Which car below rm110k is a good buy?
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surprising K3 is lots better than Altis, if only you are gonna use it for at least 10 years and not hangup about RV.
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 07:17 AM)
Kia looks good, very well designed, interior is good, price is cheaper.

Toyota is reputable.

Which car below rm110k is a good buy?
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Any passengers car RM40K onward ain't a good buy, especially bad economy situation, unless commercial vehicles everyday help you make money.

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nowadays kimchi car is on par with toyota's reliability already
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post Oct 31 2018, 07:53 AM

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What a change....kia mentioned in the same line as Toyota....and as an alternative, no less....lol
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post Oct 31 2018, 07:56 AM

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Anyday Altis.
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post Oct 31 2018, 07:57 AM

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Myvi. Can buy 2 units with 110k
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post Oct 31 2018, 07:59 AM

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KIA, cos later when breakdown can post in K you will never buy Kimchi again.

But if buy Altis so boring.
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post Oct 31 2018, 08:03 AM

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post Oct 31 2018, 09:05 AM

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K3 is lot better, but exterior i personally prefer Altis

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 07:17 AM)
Kia looks good, very well designed, interior is good, price is cheaper.

Toyota is reputable.

Which car below rm110k is a good buy?
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i remember during gst tax holiday + rebate. kia k3 is only at around 90k. what is the price and rebate now?
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depends on your requirement.. if you plan to change car every 3-5 years... buy proton.. if around 10 years... buy kia.. if you want a cockroach.. buy altis.. old same shit.. but reliable...
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Oct 31 2018, 09:05 AM)
K3 is lot better, but exterior i personally prefer Altis
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U be sitting in the car more often then looking at it from outside.


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post Oct 31 2018, 09:32 AM

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civic ketam ..owai
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kia, put RV aside, buy car not for RV but for ownself to drive..
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 07:17 AM)
Kia looks good, very well designed, interior is good, price is cheaper.

Toyota is reputable.

Which car below rm110k is a good buy?
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Civic 1.8S at RM108k

-carplay & android auto
-6 airbags
-auto headlamp
-good rv
-excellent fuel economy (13km/l town, 18km/l highway)
-super cheap maintenance

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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Oct 31 2018, 07:21 AM)
Right now K3 would be the best, but someone later will mention RV xD. I think post 2012+ kia's car have a good resale value i think.
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think only but the fact that other than toyota / honda / perodua / proton, all other cars have low resale value
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 08:17 AM)
Kia looks good, very well designed, interior is good, price is cheaper.

Toyota is reputable.

Which car below rm110k is a good buy?
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for engine k3 1.6 & altis 2.0 use dual valve. not k3 2.0 version. quite good compare traditional engine.

by exterior kia k3 win all hand and look solid but altis also nice.

by interior , kia k3 also win but unkel sure will like altis as it look simple

altis is good car and high rv while k3 win all but rv concern. but who care when you like it then buy la. even you buy VW, BMMer also RV bad.


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post Oct 31 2018, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Oct 31 2018, 09:35 AM)
Civic 1.8S at RM108k

-carplay & android auto
-6 airbags
-auto headlamp
-good rv
-excellent fuel economy (13km/l town, 18km/l highway)
-super cheap maintenance
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prepare to strain your back when you move in and out frm your car.
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post Oct 31 2018, 09:47 AM

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No top up a bit?
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post Oct 31 2018, 09:48 AM

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Kia k3....drive like sampan. Aircond like shit. Mileage not as good as altis . Also interior got sound one when driving on uneven road

Altis boring interior but more solid than kia k3.

For me I will get the altis.

Dun believe me? I have both.

Top up get Mazda pls.

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Oct 31 2018, 09:45 AM)
prepare to strain your back when you move in and out frm your car.
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my old satria is way lower...ok je
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post Oct 31 2018, 09:51 AM

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110K dont think can get Altis no?
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post Oct 31 2018, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Oct 31 2018, 09:48 AM)
Kia k3....drive like sampan.  Aircond like shit. Mileage not as good as altis . Also interior got sound one when driving on uneven road

Altis boring interior but more solid than kia k3.

For me I will get the altis.

Dun believe me? I have both.

Top up get Mazda pls.
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lol the word top up. top up abit buy benz mazda 6 dy
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post Oct 31 2018, 09:53 AM

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If you buy Altis, u will end-up like lowyat altis thread.. dead.. no comment.. which the car have almost no problem..

Civic, Myvi, K3 , do check out car club thread to observe the reliability..

New Vios is coming soon as i heard salesman going for course/preview to learn about it.

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Oct 31 2018, 09:50 AM)
my old satria is way lower...ok je
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QUOTE(yattnana @ Oct 31 2018, 09:50 AM)
my old satria is way lower...ok je
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more like the door sill on the civic is higher
thus you do strain quite a bit to get out
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 31 2018, 09:51 AM)
110K dont think can get Altis no?
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can, base 1.8 model with year end discount......but i went for civic 1.8s instead. mazda 3 base model also around that price too
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 07:17 AM)
Kia looks good, very well designed, interior is good, price is cheaper.

Toyota is reputable.

Which car below rm110k is a good buy?
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u compare the resell value u get the answer

btw i heard kia give the customer 50% of original price as trade in value at the 5th year if buy another kia

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post Oct 31 2018, 10:03 AM

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To be honest, both cars are equally boring af.
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K3 are more better
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Avoid KIA at all costs.

Kia sell cars based on paper specs to con newbies .

Once u drive the car, u will know why a Kia is still a kia and why honda and toyota are still dominant.

Its the engine and the drive. Kia can copy everything else but its engine and drive still sucks.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 10:10 AM)
Avoid KIA at all costs.

Kia sell cars based on paper specs to con newbies .

Once u drive the car, u will know why a Kia is still a kia and why honda and toyota are still dominant.

Its the engine and the drive. Kia can copy everything else but its engine and drive still sucks.
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I heard newer Kia drives really well now. Even the 50k Picanto handles really well.

side note, when is new Cerato launching?
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 10:10 AM)
Avoid KIA at all costs.

Kia sell cars based on paper specs to con newbies .

Once u drive the car, u will know why a Kia is still a kia and why honda and toyota are still dominant.

Its the engine and the drive. Kia can copy everything else but its engine and drive still sucks.
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for the current models?
and why KIA is doing so well in EU?
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Oct 31 2018, 09:52 AM)
lol the word top up. top up abit buy benz mazda 6 dy
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Mazda 3 la...
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get a used kia K5/ optima or sportage?
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QUOTE(taint8 @ Oct 31 2018, 09:27 AM)
U be sitting in the car more often then looking at it from outside.
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i drive ugly camry, but look nice outside laugh.gif
last time i drive forte, nice outside, inside oso ugly

doesnt matter la drive few years then change, car update so fast nowadays
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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Oct 31 2018, 09:48 AM)
Kia k3....drive like sampan.  Aircond like shit. Mileage not as good as altis . Also interior got sound one when driving on uneven road

Altis boring interior but more solid than kia k3.

For me I will get the altis.

Dun believe me? I have both.

Top up get Mazda pls.
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have K3 and Camry, feel like i paid RM160K, double price for something worth more or less the same or maybe just slightly better doh.gif
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QUOTE(shinichi88 @ Oct 31 2018, 09:53 AM)
If you buy Altis, u will end-up like lowyat altis thread.. dead.. no comment.. which the car have almost no problem..

Civic, Myvi, K3 , do check out car club thread to observe the reliability..

New Vios is coming soon as i heard salesman going for course/preview to learn about it.
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LOL not sure if its a good thing or bad
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k3 and altis same segment?
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Oct 31 2018, 10:28 AM)
have K3 and Camry, feel like i paid RM160K, double price for something worth more or less the same or maybe just slightly better  doh.gif
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Mine k3 2.0. So for sure not double Camry la.

But honestly for Camry I rather go with accord

Eh your k3 got juddering sound when on uneven road?
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 31 2018, 10:32 AM)
LOL not sure if its a good thing or bad
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Up to your preference...
I'm driving Altis and no comment on it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Oct 31 2018, 10:41 AM)
Mine k3 2.0. So for sure not double Camry la.

But honestly for Camry I rather go with accord

Eh your k3 got juddering sound when on uneven road?
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so far no problem but forte last time ada..can try check stabilizer link/lower arm/related

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Can't compare K3 with Mazda 3 la. Mazda inside always feel cramped.
Honda Civic CKD ...pening, malaysia quality, and the worst sound proofing among all.
If want to buy K3, better wait for New K3 . More solid, nicer look too.
Mini Kia Stinger.

Altis just another Altis. Get new Camry better (but not Malaysia version always save cost to earn more version) .
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 10:10 AM)
Avoid KIA at all costs.

Kia sell cars based on paper specs to con newbies .

Once u drive the car, u will know why a Kia is still a kia and why honda and toyota are still dominant.

Its the engine and the drive. Kia can copy everything else but its engine and drive still sucks.
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you and your korean car nonsense again haha



btw TS - if you want the best handling in this segment, go for mazda 3 only.

but if you want to get K3, its a good car but don't expect power or handling from it. it's a good comfort cruiser

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QUOTE(soul_slasher85 @ Oct 31 2018, 10:50 AM)
Can't compare K3 with Mazda 3 la. Mazda inside always feel cramped.
Honda  Civic CKD ...pening, malaysia quality, and the worst sound proofing among all.
If want to buy K3, better wait for New K3 . More solid, nicer look too.
Mini Kia Stinger.

Altis just another Altis. Get new Camry better (but not Malaysia version always save cost to earn more version) .
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yup, Honda car looks good but that is only until you go lurk inside the car FB group.
if still buy then the love for Honda must be strong. their QC really bad.

Mazda focus as driver's car, passenger dont feel good and cramped.
yea new K3 looks really wonderful. in and out all nice.

new Camry looks sporty and aggressive too, thats why i got myself current version, cos i apek already.
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QUOTE(cendolpulut @ Oct 31 2018, 10:13 AM)
I heard newer Kia drives really well now. Even the 50k Picanto handles really well.

side note, when is new Cerato launching?
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the picanto indeed handles and drives better than the current cerato

the cerato is a bit off in terms of handling (even when compared to the previous gen forte)

it's more comfort focused


new cerato definitely next year but don't expect it to be cheap like the current 1

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 31 2018, 10:20 AM)
for the current models?
and why KIA is doing so well in EU?
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he famous korean car hater since forte days edi.... i think his mindset still stuck at those times


for him jap/german > all
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 07:17 AM)
Kia looks good, very well designed, interior is good, price is cheaper.

Toyota is reputable.

Which car below rm110k is a good buy?
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kia edy old tech edy.. honda city still better than it
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QUOTE(Harold2009 @ Oct 31 2018, 07:42 AM)
Any passengers car RM40K onward ain't a good buy, especially bad economy situation, unless commercial vehicles everyday help you make money.
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Agree with you bro,,, if plans to purchase passager car for own used ,,then don't think about resale value ..
Just accept as everyday as renting car from banker ..

For those sohai think about resale value,, it's considered no money ppl buy car,, somemore need to act rich Infront of ppl..
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 31 2018, 10:51 AM)
you and your korean car nonsense again haha
btw TS - if you want the best handling in this segment, go for mazda 3 only.

but if you want to get K3, its a good car but don't expect power or handling from it. it's a good comfort cruiser
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Stating facts.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 31 2018, 10:20 AM)
for the current models?
and why KIA is doing so well in EU?
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kevin23, korean car hater till u feel like somebody use a korean car and langgar all his family to death. so any info from him via korean car can dengar saje.
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Kia Korean model is getting better than Japan model.
Since a lot 'manner issue' on Japan model.. Takata.. Niken metal issue.. Euro standard issue..


But the problem for Kia in MLY market is Kia under Naza..
that one make a worst for this model...
Naza no more care for their automotive sector...
they are invest and focus on properties currently..


Ya..Kia model still lack of technology on their powertrain section..engine and transmission..
But they boost more on appearance..design..int and exterior since they hire CDO, chief design officer.. ex Audi Top man !!
every one know his name ?? forgot already..

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 11:30 AM)
Stating facts that I plucked from thin air kentut from my butt 10 yrs ago.
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FIXED
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been using k3 for 5 years now... never regretted a day getting it... top notch QC, no rattling sound till now... but mine is the CBU unit la...
its a comfort cruiser like many said... if want handling go for mazda3... those korean car haters get facts from their backside one... they either dont own one, or own one from Kia spectra era...

but i say wait for new k3 la, looks great.. else, you get the current version evntho cheaper, next time you see a next gen on the road sure heartache
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i will alwiz buy myvi cos
awsm spec
easy to park
comfort
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QUOTE(jlkh760830 @ Oct 31 2018, 10:59 AM)
Agree with you bro,,, if plans to purchase passager car for own used ,,then don't think about resale value ..
Just accept as everyday as renting car from banker ..

For those sohai think about resale value,, it's considered no money ppl buy car,, somemore need to act rich Infront of ppl..
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RV is very important. If i gave u a choice, would u throw 100k away or 10k away?

QUOTE(dares @ Oct 31 2018, 11:48 AM)
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Wake up la dude. There is a reason why KIA sales is so bad in Malaysia .
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QUOTE(mango27 @ Oct 31 2018, 11:48 AM)
been using k3 for 5 years now... never regretted a day getting it... top notch QC, no rattling sound till now... but mine is the CBU unit la...
its a comfort cruiser like many said... if want handling go for mazda3... those korean car haters get facts from their backside one... they either dont own one, or own one from Kia spectra era...

but i say wait for new k3 la, looks great.. else, you get the current version evntho cheaper, next time you see a next gen on the road sure heartache
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new k3 expected to be over 100k, might even be close to civic pricing or more expensive if they bring in the turbo engine

current K3 is selling for like 85 or 90k after discounts i think... that's quite a lot of savings for a C segment


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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 11:57 AM)
RV is very important. If i gave u a choice, would u throw 100k away or 10k away?
Wake up la dude. There is a reason why KIA sales is so bad in Malaysia .
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and why kia sales is good in australia and europe?

the problem is not the cars itself but the distributor, naza

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my k3 2.0 5 years old. i tell people service center is good nobody believe.

0 problems until now.

RV? fuckuk RV, i can afford to lose money. Talk about RV is for the poor
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[quote=kevin23,Oct 31 2018, 11:57 AM]
RV is very important. If i gave u a choice, would u throw 100k away or 10k away?

The importance thing is,,

1) how long would you use the car ?
2) do you requesting a fun car or a reliable car ?
3) how much with your monthly budget ?


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QUOTE(amar_arifin @ Oct 31 2018, 11:46 AM)
Kia Korean model is getting better than Japan model.
Since a lot 'manner issue' on Japan model.. Takata.. Niken metal issue.. Euro standard issue..
But the problem for Kia in MLY market is Kia under Naza..
that one make a worst for this model...
Naza no more care for their automotive sector...
they are invest and focus on properties currently..
Ya..Kia model still lack of technology on their powertrain section..engine and transmission..
But they boost more on appearance..design..int and exterior since they hire CDO, chief design officer.. ex Audi Top man !!
every one know his name ?? forgot already..
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Peter Schreyer? That is very old news dy.

Hot news is the addition of former BMW ///M division boss Albert Biermann who is heading up Hyundai/KIA's performance models, in particular the KIA Stinger and Hyundai's current and upcoming N models.

The drivetrain and chassis improvements in these models will trickle down to the normal models over the next few year. We already got a first taste of that in the new KIA Picanto.

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 11:57 AM)
Wake up la dude. There is a reason why KIA sales is so bad in Malaysia .
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Such convince.
Much desperate.

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Oct 31 2018, 12:02 PM)
my k3 2.0 5 years old. i tell people service center is good nobody believe.

0 problems until now.

RV? fuckuk RV, i can afford to lose money. Talk about RV is for the poor
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which service centre u go? Heard a lot of bad reviews about some red cubes eg: PJ and Glenmarie branch

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Jetta TSi can get under 110k
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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 31 2018, 12:09 PM)
Peter Schreyer? That is very old news dy.

Hot news is the addition of former BMW ///M division boss Albert Biermann who is heading up Hyundai/KIA's performance models, in particular the KIA Stinger and Hyundai's current and upcoming N models.

The drivetrain and chassis improvements in these models will trickle down to the normal models over the next few year. We already got a first taste of that in the new KIA Picanto.
Such convince.
Much desperate.
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there probably like a obstacle for Kia anyway..
sure white man dont want to share any technology with Asian people..
they just boost on design appearance only..
not power train technology.


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which service centre u go? Heard a lot of bad reviews about some red cubes eg: PJ and Glenmarie branch
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Puchong one not bad la... i just service on Monday... the moment i parked the car, the SA come out straightaway and inspect the car already... i didnt even step into the lobby to wait for turn...
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Apart from K3 and Altis, around the RM110k mark are:

VW Jetta (RM121k) conti mah.. hahhaha... with discounts sure below 110k

Hyundai Elantra (RM110k, 114k 124k) go check out some local reviewers, they seem to like it

Mazda 3 (RM 104k-118k) like what others said, very nice to drive

Godcar Civic (RM104-124k)


If you want even better NVH/comfort, shop for lightly used D Segments or ones with crazy deep discounts.

No idea on the Perdana reliability, but its very roomy. Its as long as Jolo's boat though.

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QUOTE(amar_arifin @ Oct 31 2018, 11:46 AM)
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But the problem for Kia in MLY market is Kia under Naza..
All makes under NAZA sure sux!
They only interest of turnover their AP as fast as possible, everything after that can go fly kite!
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QUOTE(amar_arifin @ Oct 31 2018, 12:24 PM)
there probably like a obstacle for Kia anyway..
sure white man dont want to share any technology with Asian people..
they just boost on design appearance only..
not power train technology.
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Go read up / watch overseas reviews of the KIA Stinger and the Hyunda i30 N, where they are regularly benchmarked against their conti peers.

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Bobby talks a little bit about Altis, Mazda 3, Jetta etc
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 31 2018, 11:59 AM)
new k3 expected to be over 100k, might even be close to civic pricing or more expensive if they bring in the turbo engine

current K3 is selling for like 85 or 90k after discounts i think... that's quite a lot of savings for a C segment
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Pricing will be same like Hyundai Elantra ?

Even Elantra Turbo faster than Civic, hardly can see the car on the road
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Pricing will be same like Hyundai Elantra ?

Even Elantra Turbo faster than Civic, hardly can see the car on the road
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and why kia sales is good in australia and europe?

the problem is not the cars itself but the distributor, naza
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Cuz its one of the cheapest cars u can get in europe and aus.

Different country , different requirements.
And when u say kia sales is good, how good? Not even top 5 in europe last i checked

How is that good?
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kia k3 hands down

design and technology fat better as well

altis got uncle feel look
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[quote=jlkh760830,Oct 31 2018, 12:05 PM]
[quote=kevin23,Oct 31 2018, 11:57 AM]
RV is very important. If i gave u a choice, would u throw 100k away or 10k away?

The importance thing is,,

1) how long would you use the car ?
2) do you requesting a fun car or a reliable car ?
3) how much with your monthly budget ?
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Nowadays everybody change car every 5 years la. Very rare someone use the same car more than 5 years.

I have driven many cars. Started with Perodua, then Honda , then Volkswagen and now Mercedes.

U all can say what u want but Korean cars still no match for Jap cars. I drove cerato a few times for outstation trip i know immediately that the engineering of the car sucks.honda city is a much better engineered car .


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QUOTE(amar_arifin @ Oct 31 2018, 12:24 PM)
there probably like a obstacle for Kia anyway..
sure white man dont want to share any technology with Asian people..
they just boost on design appearance only..
not power train technology.
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Dont think theres any obstacles when they can come out with this


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Many got their K3 1.6 during tax holiday for 83k or 84k, very good value

The facelifted altis is meh, looks worst than the pre-facelift

Better save the 20-30k for upgrades or go holiday

And who said toyota still good rv? Pls check used car prices
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I work with Korean expats. None of them drive any Korean makes. German and UK colleagues will use Conti and Japs.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:39 PM)
Cuz its one of the cheapest cars u can get in europe and aus.

Different country , different requirements.
And when u say kia sales is good, how good? Not even top 5 in europe last i checked

How is that good?
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/264031/...-registrations/

Latest Sept 2018 sales :

Kia sold 48,012
Hyundai sold 45,832

They are the same group, combine both sales, will lose only to VW group sales.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:44 PM)
Nowadays everybody change car every 5 years la. Very rare someone use the same car more than 5 years.

I have driven many cars. Started with Perodua, then Honda , then Volkswagen and now Mercedes.

U all can say what u want but Korean cars still no match for Jap cars. I drove cerato a few times for outstation trip i know immediately that the engineering of the car sucks.honda city is a  much better engineered car .
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Since u want to compare it that way

U driven the new picanto or optima gt already? Cerato was never known to be a good handling car anyway, and its a bit underpowered

But i dont think u will since in your minset koreans are forever crap
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honestly..
im also looking for k3 model..
2nd hand CBU unit..
hardly to find nowadays..
market value sudah up ke ? hehe
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K3 like penghabisan stock currently, lots of discount.
got new model next year maybe
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 31 2018, 12:50 PM)
Since u want to compare it that way

U driven the new picanto or optima gt already? Cerato was never known to be a good handling car anyway, and its a bit underpowered

But i dont think u will since in your minset koreans are forever crap
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Test drove the optima gt already. Turbo car but turbo no oomph.

Does not feel like a turbo car at all.

Since its launch until now, i have only seen 2 optima GT on the road. In fact i have seen more new Merc on the road compared to this. So yea u get the idea la.

QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Oct 31 2018, 12:57 PM)
K3 like penghabisan stock currently, lots of discount.
got new model next year maybe
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Yup. Cuz they stop making anymore already. Whatever left over stock is whats available.sales tak laku at all.
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Still got people buy Altis ke nowaday?
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:44 PM)
Nowadays everybody change car every 5 years la. Very rare someone use the same car more than 5 years.

I have driven many cars. Started with Perodua, then Honda , then Volkswagen and now Mercedes.

U all can say what u want but Korean cars still no match for Jap cars. I drove cerato a few times for outstation trip i know immediately that the engineering of the car sucks.honda city is a  much better engineered car .
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Define better engineered. In terms of? Power to weight? weight distribution? Drag coefficient? Kindly share yr technical expertise

Bet u hvn tasted the 2.0T theta GDI turbo from Optima Gt and Stinger

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:39 PM)
And when u say kia sales is good, how good? Not even top 5 in europe last i checked

How is that good?
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http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales...ne-2018-brands/

Macamla Toyota is in top 5, Honda no need say lah hahahaha.

Hyundai + KIA > Toyota + Honda


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QUOTE(WinterAngeLs @ Oct 31 2018, 01:06 PM)
Define better engineered. In terms of? Power to weight? weight distribution? Drag coefficient? Kindly share yr technical expertise

Bet u hvn tasted the 2.0T theta GDI turbo from Optima Gt and Stinger
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Engine dude. Honda engines are famous for a reason. Easy smooth revving engines. I drove the latest city and it was good to drive man.

Basically u feel good when u drive a city. I dont want to discuss specs because paper specs does not tell u how a car drives in real life.


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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 01:15 PM)
Engine dude. Honda engines are famous for a reason. Easy smooth revving engines. I drove the latest city and it was good to drive man.

Basically u feel good when u drive a city. I dont want to discuss specs because paper specs  does not tell u how a car drives in real life.
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u feel good, smooth and silent drive until u go to uneven road..your ear will bleed due to lot of dashboard noise.
plus city is famous with suspension problem especially at front passenger and back. open FB group and see a lot of complaint lol
honda city suffers quality issue



p/s: i'm city owner
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 01:02 PM)
Test drove the optima gt already. Turbo car but turbo no oomph.

Does not feel like a turbo car at all.

Since its launch until now, i have only seen 2 optima GT on the road. In fact i have seen more new Merc on the road compared to this. So yea u get the idea la.
Yup. Cuz they stop making anymore already. Whatever left over stock is whats available.sales tak laku at all.
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no oomph compared to what?

perhaps the turbo lag is worse than german equivalents but you can't tell me there's no difference compared to 2.0/2.4 NA of equivalent D segments
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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Oct 31 2018, 09:48 AM)
Kia k3....drive like sampan.  Aircond like shit. Mileage not as good as altis . Also interior got sound one when driving on uneven road

Altis boring interior but more solid than kia k3.

For me I will get the altis.

Dun believe me? I have both.

Top up get Mazda pls.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 31 2018, 01:25 PM)
no oomph compared to what?

perhaps the turbo lag is worse than german equivalents but you can't tell me there's no difference compared to 2.0/2.4 NA of equivalent D segments
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No oomph for what it is. 240hp but feels weak. Its not turbo lag.

2.0L turbo but feels like 1.6 turbo.

Go drive civic 1.5 turbo. That is what i call turbo la.

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lel comparing korean car to jap car
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Haha, exactly.
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QUOTE(our_team89 @ Oct 31 2018, 01:21 PM)
u feel good, smooth and silent drive until u go to uneven road..your ear will bleed due to lot of dashboard noise.
plus city is famous with suspension problem especially at front passenger and back. open FB group and see a lot of complaint lol
honda city suffers quality issue
p/s: i'm city owner
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Lol dashboard noise?

Ur got car problem la.

Suspension problem yes. Just go claim warranty. Small matter. Suspension problem can be fixed. A lousy engine cant be fixed.

Get ur priorities right
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 01:36 PM)
Lol dashboard noise?

Ur got car problem la.

Suspension problem yes. Just go claim warranty. Small matter. Suspension problem can be fixed. A lousy engine cant be fixed.

Get ur priorities right
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u just bought your car?
wait 3-4 years
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u just bought your car?
wait 3-4 years
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Driving A45 currently. But still drive my family honda city occasionally.


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1.6 vs 1.8

so hard to pick meh??

altis close eye oso tapao lagi power lagi best .... owaiii
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 01:02 PM)
Test drove the optima gt already. Turbo car but turbo no oomph.

Does not feel like a turbo car at all.

Since its launch until now, i have only seen 2 optima GT on the road. In fact i have seen more new Merc on the road compared to this. So yea u get the idea la.
Yup. Cuz they stop making anymore already. Whatever left over stock is whats available.sales tak laku at all.
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they didnt stop.newer model cerato comng out.thats why so many discount
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QUOTE(zumba @ Oct 31 2018, 12:37 PM)
take toyota if you want the most basic car possible. honestly, its really nothing inside
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sad but true, my Camry still kurang few features from my old Forte

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 01:15 PM)
Engine dude. Honda engines are famous for a reason. Easy smooth revving engines. I drove the latest city and it was good to drive man.

Basically u feel good when u drive a city. I dont want to discuss specs because paper specs  does not tell u how a car drives in real life.
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Honda engine could be better, but City interior quality worse than myvi, the door metal is as thin as tissue, not everyone talk about engine, some prefer overall experience.


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What image is projected by the owner who drives a Kia K3 vs a Toyota Altis?
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Oct 31 2018, 02:19 PM)
sad but true, my Camry still kurang few features from my old Forte
Honda engine could be better, but City interior quality worse than myvi, the door metal is as thin as tissue, not everyone talk about engine, some prefer overall experience.
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What kinda features ?
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 02:22 PM)
What image is projected by the owner who drives a Kia K3 vs a Toyota Altis?
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Toyota confirm uncle
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 02:22 PM)
What image is projected by the owner who drives a Kia K3 vs a Toyota Altis?
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sure ppl think Altis owner more kaya

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 02:23 PM)
What kinda features ?
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small features, all i can remember for now

auto headlamp/auto wiper/paddle shift/electrochromic mirror
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QUOTE(dvinez @ Oct 31 2018, 02:27 PM)
sure ppl think Altis owner more kaya
small features, all i can remember for now

auto headlamp/auto wiper/paddle shift/electrochromic mirror
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all this accessories can tipu children

Not useful
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2018, 02:49 PM)
all this accessories can tipu children

Not useful
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 31 2018, 01:26 PM)
How to belip without picture..?

I have merc/BMW/audi  but my kancil is best.  Belip?
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Aiyo....this one now BMW or merc or Lamborghini la...

No need to proof. Ppl dun belib I also no problem.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 31 2018, 11:57 AM)
RV is very important. If i gave u a choice, would u throw 100k away or 10k away?
Wake up la dude. There is a reason why KIA sales is so bad in Malaysia .
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Buy a car still need think about RV, car is a liability, need RV, better buy properties sure you can make profit, I wouldn't throw more than 30K for a passenger car, regards brand new or second hand, unless commercial one, every day help you making money. By fact car is not worth buy at expensive price tag because our stupid taxing policy, car just the optional for me, except commercial use.

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