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DesRed
post Oct 26 2018, 07:26 AM

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The Reach @ Titiwangsa is also one of them, but I did manage to catch a glimpse of one listing there while I was browsing airbnb. hmm.gif
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post Oct 26 2018, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 26 2018, 08:09 AM)
Even after M City ban airbnb, if you search the website, still can find ads listing over there.
I would say still able to do it. Just need to pakat with the guests (brief them what to say) and you must be around to check the guests in, hand them the keys / access cards personally. Even maybe checking out time also you must be around. More hassle. So is it worth the time and effort to manage? Guess not anymore.
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I'm not too familiar with M City's unit layouts but if the airbnb unit there is a dual-key where the studio part operates as one while the owner stays in the other part, then it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to meet and brief the guest(s) personally. If its the entire unit turned into one and the owner is living elsewhere, then I agree that it will be a hassle.

I do remember seeing one or two layouts at the Reach also being dual-key ready and not surprised a few owners of those units plan to operate as such. They'd better hope the neighbours don't raise a stink later on. hmm.gif
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post Oct 28 2018, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(genyproperty @ Oct 28 2018, 10:13 PM)
Why must be around when guest check in? Even if self check in if ita done correcty it also can be done without alarming the residents there
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Again, like what Bean mentioned, will any nearby resident or neighbour care who does what with their own unit? I lived in a condo for a few years dy and couldn't be bothered with my neighbours living next door to me on the same floor. Heck, I'm only familiar with the neighbours on my floor, but not those living below or above me. The only time we had to lodge a complaint is when we noticed our ceiling was discoloured and damp due to a water leak from the unit above ours.

And if the owner wants (or not) to personally meet the guest, that's his/her prerogative.
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post Oct 29 2018, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(genyproperty @ Oct 29 2018, 07:27 AM)
You must be new to airbnb. Nowadays most of the airbnb is self check in . You set a smart lock to your unit or a simple passcode lock to your mailbox and give to your guest prior their check in at the aibnb apps without your presence
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There are condos/serviced residences where the mailbox room require a keycard access. Should that be the case, then the owner have no choice but to make himself/herself available in order to attend to the guest(s). That or the owner can notify the guard to allow the guest(s) access to the mailbox room once he/she gives the unit number.

I'm just only assuming here since I've not booked an airbnb unit in a condo with this kind of setup. From my experience, most of them are open and you just head to the unit's mailbox (which uses a passcode type of padlock), get the keys and keycard, and go straight to the unit itself.
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post Oct 31 2018, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Oct 31 2018, 03:36 PM)
The biggest loophole of airbnb is the platform only protect the properties and not the condo.. As long as guest didn't damage the properties... It is fine with operstor/host/Airbnb... What happen beyond the four walls... None of their concern... Did Airbnb provide platform for the Jmb, neighbours, affected stakeholders to lodge complaint for the nuisance caused by guests? And where are the operators/hosts when their guests are overcrowding facilities, creating nuisance at night and haphazardly parking and crowding visitor carparks/guardhouse?

Friend, Airbnb is not all rosy where the volunteer JMB try to battle all these... It is easy for operator/investors to welcome airbnb/honesty to increase the yield where they are not contributing to the long term living of neighborhood.
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Aren't own-stayers, short/long-term tenants and guests also guilty of this as well? For those who spot this kind of behaviour at the facilities floor or next door, then lodge a complaint with the management office and if you know which unit those folks came from, then mention it to them as well. I'm sure appropriate action will be taken when this is done.

Not to say I'm pro-airbnb or whatever, but I believe that airbnb is here to stay regardless of what people may think of it. The more important question to ask is how to condos/serviced residence where a number of their units are used as airbnb/homestays regulate them? I've stayed at a 6 Capsquare Condominium airbnb unit before and did not see the scenario you described happening there.
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post Oct 31 2018, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Oct 31 2018, 09:50 PM)
Are you sure you interpret the house rule correctly? Guest are guest.. Did guest sign agreement and been stamped?

In any cases... Some of the landmark courtcase already out and Airbnb lost big time....
We are not talking profit here. We are referring to nuisance created by guest where operators wash their hands and pinpoint to MA and neighbour to manage and monitor them.

And why SHOULD jMB/MC manage the guests where the responsibility belongs to host/operators?
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No one here said neighbours or the JMB/MC have to manage outsiders, and neither did I. Like what the rest mentioned, its the residents/owners who are responsible and are expected to follow the rules but if any nuisance occurs as mentioned by the others, then either politely educate the neighbour (be it tenant/owner/guest), lodge a complaint or report to the relevant authorities. Let the culprit(s) face the music and serve as an example to the rest.

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post Nov 6 2018, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Nov 6 2018, 10:01 AM)
If the place have a commercial title, can do AirBnB right?
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Should be no issues, but again, it depends on the respective project's JMB/MC decision on this matter. If they're okay with it, then go ahead. If not, then, no choice but to follow them in this regard. hmm.gif

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post Feb 6 2019, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Feb 5 2019, 07:27 PM)
... everybody forgot the effects of stable owners\rebters(1 year or more)

If they are rowdy, you settle them once or twice. Then everybody follows suit

If it's Airbnb short term, EVERY new batch of people need to relearn\break the rules again..... Most hosts don't brief them or even give hard rules such as must wear proper attire at pool.
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Again, is that a good reason (one among many) to ban Airbnb?

There will always be a-holes in a neighbourhood among own-stayers and renters, regardless if its a housing estate or high-rise.

I've stayed at a few condos where some of the units are operating as Airbnb and the only one I know which its common areas are poorly maintained is Tropicana Danga Bay. The rest such as 6 Capsquare and BayLaurel @ Danga Bay are pretty well-maintained. Among those I mentioned, I have yet to bump into any undesirable behaviour such as folks swimming in the pool fully-clothed, rubbish strewn around everywhere, rampant parking, etc.
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post Apr 3 2019, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(trust4you @ Apr 3 2019, 12:09 AM)
nowadays is all about tax from the gomen. hiaz  they just want money only doh.gif

copy paste becos edgeprop is a shit always delete post
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Yeah, the PH gov't seem to be finding all sorts of avenues for tax income ever since they abolished GST and replaced it with SST. Tax online platforms such as Netflix, Steam, Lazada, etc. and now also want to tax Airbnb. dry.gif
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post Apr 21 2019, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 21 2019, 11:43 AM)
licensed businesses are taxed, why Airbnb should be exempted?
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Don't shove words into my mouth. I never implied that.

How come during the GST era, none of the platforms I mentioned are taxed? Gov't overlooked them or just turned a blind eye?
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post Jul 9 2019, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Jul 8 2019, 10:46 PM)
What to ask, can landed properties ban airbnb? Purely residential individual title
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I've seen a few houses in Bangsar do airbnb, but so far, none of them ended up in the spotlight for nuisance or what not. Must be quite lucky none of the neighbours took notice or even care. hmm.gif
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post Sep 28 2019, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Sep 26 2019, 10:51 PM)
No never heard before any Airbnb friendly condo in KL. Selangor yes
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Just do a quick search on airbnb website/app. You'll see lots of units scattered around the KL area.

Heck, even some landed houses there also do this as well, and I've not heard them ending up in hot soup with their neighbours.
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post Sep 28 2020, 10:08 AM

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danielSinclair You could try visiting the AirBnB Community Forum for further info on how they manage their units. I see more feedback there compared to this forum.

 

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