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Investment AIRBNB unfriendly condo, Please help input if you know of those
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BEANCOUNTER
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Oct 30 2018, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(genyproperty @ Oct 30 2018, 10:20 AM) I am airbnb operator myself And whatever i mentioned is an usual trick by airbnb operator now in Malaysia For desred , his point of view is not as investor/group but rather an individual who run few unit airbnb as part time income. You can greet the guest if you own only one or two unit at the same area but how can you greet all the guests one by one if you have few hundred or thousand unit at different area? If you were to hire staff to cater for that purpose, it will incur additional effort and cost too and it all go back to the main issue is it worthwhile? My point is if you are full time airbnb operator, you should choose the right area for airbnb at the first place which allow you to have self check in facilities installed. Friend i know what is self check in is.... I was talkibg abt jmb decided to lock up the mail room w key access. How are you going to run airbnb without meet n greet? Of course you still can work w guard...if you know them well.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Oct 31 2018, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Oct 31 2018, 02:46 PM) At a condo nearby the Airbnb operators have arrangement with convenience store downstairs. Guest collect and return keys via the convenience store. It's a great win-win idea because the arrangement funnels customers to the convenience store and Airbnb operator can offer 24x7 check in. Whoa....very creative.....thumb up... Those airbnb haters....eat yr heart out....
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BEANCOUNTER
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Oct 31 2018, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Oct 31 2018, 04:42 PM) Aren't own-stayers, short/long-term tenants and guests also guilty of this as well? For those who spot this kind of behaviour at the facilities floor or next door, then lodge a complaint with the management office and if you know which unit those folks came from, then mention it to them as well. I'm sure appropriate action will be taken when this is done. Not to say I'm pro-airbnb or whatever, but I believe that airbnb is here to stay regardless of what people may think of it. The more important question to ask is how to condos/serviced residence where a number of their units are used as airbnb/homestays regulate them? I've stayed at a 6 Capsquare Condominium airbnb unit before and did not see the scenario you described happening there. 1000% agree. If owner wanna play airbnb they should be held responsible n not just pocket the profit. Make noise? Repory to police Wrongful parking? Clamp the car n fine Doesnt matter airbnb or long term rent or ownstay or friend of owner all should be responsible by owner himself. If you want to control should just ban all sort of rental agreement. It should put all issues to rest
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BEANCOUNTER
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Nov 1 2018, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Nov 1 2018, 01:18 PM) trust4youCan add to the list places that ban airbnb: - Tropicana Metro Park (Pandora & Paloma) - Damansara Foresta When you say ban.... How they ban? Got special meeting and achieved 75% of motion to ban???
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BEANCOUNTER
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Nov 1 2018, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Nov 1 2018, 02:32 PM) for Damansara Foresta, yes was voted during the recent AGM. minutes already out as black and white confirmation. notice being placed. security being informed as well. penalty RM200 to the owner if units caught with short term tenants type. no info on the process for Tropicana Metro Park. The law said required special resolution w 75% votes. Not sure if they have just passed w simple majority. Also jmb has no right to prohibit the usage of units unless it creates nuisane or health concern.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Nov 1 2018, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Nov 1 2018, 05:40 PM) BEANCOUNTER... All reso need to follow SMA... Got ways one lar to get reso passed... Sorry cannot be shared publicly... Thanks.... Honestly i dont really mind or care if any highrises ban airbnb...bcos there will always be new highrises up when one older got banned. Also ban doesnt mean 100% no airbnb. For example...trop gardens said got banned....but still available in airbnb website.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Nov 1 2018, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Nov 1 2018, 07:26 PM) Tbh.. If operators/host are taking care of their guests like what a proper hospitality service should do.. Jmb/MC are more receptive... But prob is they just wash off their hands. Maximise profit but minimise effort. Also do read about the spirit behind Airbnb... Too many lazy property owners just dun care ..... They only want money to fill their holes....
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BEANCOUNTER
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Dec 14 2018, 03:08 PM
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Am waiting to see which rumawip will be the 1st one to ban x3 airbnb
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BEANCOUNTER
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Dec 14 2018, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(warface @ Dec 14 2018, 04:51 PM) but it seems commercial hda also risky. If purely commercial should be the safest. Anyway also subject to the JMB decisions. alamak, how many times i need to explain already... there is no commercial hda and residential hda. HDA is HDA....and it will and only covered residential usage properties. there is no different btw jmb in residential property with commercial or residential land title.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Dec 14 2018, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(warface @ Dec 14 2018, 04:49 PM) a alot of condo/service apartment banning -airbnb now. Will rumawip ban rental and airbnb also?  this is interesting. bcos if they only ban Airbnb without banning long term rental, meaning the jmb is admitting long term rental is ok.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Dec 14 2018, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(warface @ Dec 14 2018, 11:20 PM) bean boss, a) commercial title govern under hda -usually 90% max loan margin 1st and 2nd prop b) purely residential - usually 90% max loan margin 1st and 2nd prop c) Commercial soho, sovo - usually 80% max loan margin no capping apa difference? can explain a bit boss? that's my understanding on the type. these were imposed by banks, Not HDA. what I saying was the power and limitation of both JMB re strata title act has no differences whether the residential portion of the building is sit on commercial or residential land title.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Dec 14 2018, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(warface @ Dec 14 2018, 11:44 PM) Understand the margin is banks standard, thanks bean boss for highlighting. those really commercial type should be more receptive to airbnb kwa, since its already commercial owner shld hv the mentality of using the prop for business purpose - include airbnb  no lah.... if developer applied development under schedule H of HDA, it got no different from sch H of HDA for residential title lah. what is so commercial about commercial land resi usage compared to resi land resi usage?????? few shops below? no fancy lobby? higher utility charges? mind you, some rumawip also developed under commercial land. my only suggestive of airbnb usually more flourish in commercial land resi usage building is that most of them are facing or near main road, transportation and key commercial areas whereas resi land condo usually stuck in taman taman residential areas.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Dec 15 2018, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(trust4you @ Dec 15 2018, 08:54 AM) ManutdGiggs boss is DPC of any way airbnb unfriendly? saw one post at Studio [or soho, cant remember, above the shoplot] at Arcadia. very badly reno....macam cincai kautim and put on Airbnb. No free parking on premises. need to pay by meter. so far none for dpc condos.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Dec 15 2018, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 15 2018, 12:55 PM) Not a surprise at all. Only investors who bought wrong property need to resort to Airbnb. you don't say it.... ekojuilai also will be full of Airbnb...….those loft units, jialat.
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Dec 15 2018, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(trust4you @ Dec 15 2018, 03:13 PM) I think sofiya ppl buy make as investment many may do airbnb later on why u think airbnb will floushing in sofiya? what are the attraction of dpc for these airbnb guests?
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BEANCOUNTER
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Jan 17 2019, 08:00 PM
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There is no where in hell ss will ban airbnb unless the public is shying away from airbnb.
Most buyer there are not ownstayers.....
Ownstayers are fighting a losing war...
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BEANCOUNTER
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Mar 10 2019, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(chesterst @ Mar 10 2019, 11:00 AM) I suggest TS update his first post to include newer additions to the list of condos so those who need to do a quick check can just look at the list instead of browsing whole thread. when they said banned Airbnb, they are actually banning Airbnb operators per se. there is no way they can ban Airbnb if owner is the operator.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Mar 10 2019, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(chesterst @ Mar 10 2019, 11:17 AM) I see your point here. But if as an example, I am were the owner of an 8m condo in The Binjai on the Park, I won’t be thrilled to see strange faces walking in and out of the compound on daily basis. JMB can stipulate that owners aren’t allowed to do short stays or there is no way to regulate this? BOTP is collective item. You think owners there day day live there????? maybe its only their brief stop over in Malaysia home stay nia….i doubt that you will see familiar faces there...… even if you see stranger faces there, either their pau pau can buy you a brand new Perodua or high keras prostitute, if owner is there to check in their Airbnb guests, who to say you cant allow them to stay??????? its your unit, your right.
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BEANCOUNTER
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Mar 10 2019, 11:36 AM
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actually if the entire condo or apartments, there are only few units doing Airbnb, JMB wont disburb wan lah…….especially there hasn't been untoward incidents...…
Tropicana gardens banned Airbnb bcos there are many Airbnb operators there and almost 1/3 of units are Airbnb usage. That the reason why jmb ban kau Airbnb.
BUT til today, i still can see trolley dolley now and then...….(like on daily basis)
This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Mar 10 2019, 11:37 AM
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BEANCOUNTER
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May 27 2019, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ May 27 2019, 11:02 AM) Agree what???? Yr resi condo also full of owners renting to other tenants also....what is the different btw a tenant lives there for one month and another tenant suppossdely rent for one year but terminate the tenancy within 2 months??? And what happen when a local tenant signed tenancy but this fello never stayed there....he actually let his foreign girlfriend to house all of her foreign mates....???? Yes all the above haopened to me. Unless you proposed to ban all short of tenancy and only allow ownstayers to stay...... Just found out also a condo....theft is renting a unit and startrd to rob units there.... Did the theft rented thru airbnb????
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