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Investment AIRBNB unfriendly condo, Please help input if you know of those

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post Oct 26 2018, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(pilotHans @ Oct 26 2018, 10:25 AM)
come to think about it, if JMB/neighbours make life difficult for unwanted residence ,
later on -ve comments on airBnb will surely effect the owner right. one cannot simple ignore the JMB, sooner or later they will feel the effect  sweat.gif
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House rules or action such as barring tenant contravenes the SMA act and is therefore highly illegal.

Quite the opposite JMB cannot ignore respective owners rights. remember JMB is a legal entity and can be sued.

The only difference between short and long term rental is just the duration, so any attempts to restrict AirBNB will face the same legal challenge as trying to prohibit longer term rentals.

To my knowledge no condo is able to ban owners from long term rentals because SMA act protects their rights to rent and lease.

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Oct 26 2018, 10:42 AM
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post Oct 26 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 26 2018, 03:48 AM)
Prefer to stay at chain hotel as facilities and services is more consistent.

Do you like your neighbour to be Airbnb, have strangers come and go regularly?
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hotel is too cold and rigid, and small place. there is absolutely no personality. Yes you can get suites of 50m2 or whatever, but where to find the money to stay there for a month?????

honestly if you stay in high density condo or service apartments, you can hardly know yr neigbours. they too rented to tenants, and also come and go.

other time will be when I get out and see some human movement, they also quickly go into the unit, like wanted to avoid any human contact.

frankly you will be lucky to talk to anyone either in corridor or lift within a week.

there was one time, my opposite neighbour happened to left her key in the key house 'outside' the grilled door. I thought I be kind hearted and press the bell to inform her. When she saw me, macam gave me a look like 'what do you want? I have no salt n peppers in the house'. no a smile to greet me at all.

so there is no different whether its long or short term stay. in fact, Airbnb customers, I believe tend to be more friendly and international.


if you want to talk about bad hats, there are everywhere...….


landed neigbours ARE THE WORST.
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post Oct 26 2018, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Hofmann33 @ Oct 26 2018, 10:29 AM)
Heard that Southbank Residences along Old Klang Road got warring factions between airbnb operators and whose against it, not sure if banned or not.

Be great if anyone could confirm.
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1 Owh, that new condo next to Honda Old Klang road, didn't know it VP already.
2 I think with all high dense condo this matter will arrise.
3 if that place has a lot of family staying, +less attrition , less AirBNB units perhaps.
4 as long as the term n cons are put in line, one should think about a win-win situation.

QUOTE(aaronpang @ Oct 26 2018, 10:37 AM)
House rules or action such as barring tenant contravenes the SMA act and is therefore highly illegal.

Quite the opposite JMB cannot ignore respective owners rights. remember JMB is a legal entity and can be sued.

The only difference between short and long term rental is just the duration, so any attempts to restrict AirBNB will face the same legal challenge as trying to prohibit longer term rentals.

To my knowledge no condo is able to ban owners from long term rentals because SMA act protects their rights to rent and lease.
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1 is this the same, if JMB disallowing people to rent out to Students? the owner can counter back base on these rules? hmm.gif
2 imho, it's still time and money cosuming. the hasttle to go againts the JMB. in the end , at what cost?
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post Oct 26 2018, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Hofmann33 @ Oct 26 2018, 10:29 AM)
Heard that Southbank Residences along Old Klang Road got warring factions between airbnb operators and whose against it, not sure if banned or not.

Be great if anyone could confirm.
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I believe many service apartments also got...not only southbank.

I saw Airbnb at Citizen and Southviews.
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post Oct 26 2018, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(pilotHans @ Oct 26 2018, 10:52 AM)
1 is this the same, if JMB disallowing people to rent out to Students? the owner can counter back base on these rules?  hmm.gif
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Yes the law is quite clear!
A lot of issues crop up due inexperienced JMB passing bylaws which exceed their authority.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/community/2...r-in-the-house/

The National Housebuyers Association (HBA) honorary secretary-general Chang Kim Loong, when contacted, said JMB could not simply impose any limitation to its whims and fancies as any house rules must conform with existing laws.

QUOTE(pilotHans @ Oct 26 2018, 10:52 AM)
1 is this the same, if JMB disallowing people to rent out to Students? the owner can counter back base on these rules?  hmm.gif
2 imho, it's still time and money cosuming. the hasttle to go againts the JMB. in the end , at what cost?
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There are several ways to deal with JMB
1) Get organised and run for office.
Personal experienced with arrogant council that wanted to ban short term rental.
Supporters of short term rental got together to vote en-bloc, succeeded to remove chairman and council during AGM.

2) Initiate legal action.
Start with simple with a letter reminding them of their limits and move forward from there.
You can also write in and complain to COB.

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Oct 26 2018, 02:38 PM
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post Oct 26 2018, 02:53 PM

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any airbnb friendly condo ?
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post Oct 26 2018, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Oct 26 2018, 02:53 PM)
any airbnb friendly condo ?
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condo or service apartments?

I know one or two pure condos next to citta mall got Airbnb listing.

friendly or not, am not sure,
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post Oct 26 2018, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 26 2018, 10:46 AM)
hotel is too cold and rigid, and small place. there is absolutely no personality. Yes you can get suites of 50m2 or whatever, but where to find the money to stay there for a month?????

honestly if you stay in high density condo or service apartments, you can hardly know yr neigbours. they too rented to tenants, and also come and go.

other time will be when I get out and see some human movement, they also quickly go into the unit, like wanted to avoid any human contact.

frankly you will be lucky to talk to anyone either in corridor or lift within a week.

there was one time, my opposite neighbour happened to left her key in the key house 'outside' the grilled door. I thought I be kind hearted and press the bell to inform her. When she saw me, macam gave me a look like 'what do you want? I have no salt n peppers in the house'. no a smile to greet me at all.

so there is no different whether its long or short term stay. in fact, Airbnb customers, I believe tend to be more friendly and international.
if you want to talk about bad hats, there are everywhere...….
landed neigbours ARE THE WORST.
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Airbnb may have lounge but is not equivalent to hotel suite in id or furnishing. a good hotel give pocket spring mattress; Airbnb mattress could give back pain. In hotel, house keeping is supervised; Airbnb housekeeping is depending on cleaner.

If one is a unfriendly person; whether to live in condo or landed remain lonely.

If strangers is accepted, why bother with multiple tier of security and access control. If international airbnb guests is acceptable, why not ph or foreign worker tenants?
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QUOTE(LTG @ Oct 26 2018, 02:53 PM)
any airbnb friendly condo ?
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Regalia
Face @ Platinum Suite
Summer suite
Vista alam
Studio 14
Etc.

At melaka even more. Developer builds new high rise target for ppl to do airbnb. Already preinstalled with digital lock codes at the main door.
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post Oct 26 2018, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 26 2018, 03:05 PM)
Airbnb may have lounge but is not equivalent to hotel suite in id or furnishing. a good hotel give pocket spring mattress; Airbnb mattress could give back pain. In hotel, house keeping is supervised; Airbnb housekeeping is depending on cleaner.

If one is a unfriendly person; whether to live in condo or landed remain lonely.

If strangers is accepted, why bother with multiple tier of security and access control. If international airbnb guests is acceptable, why not ph or foreign worker tenants?
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come on lah….unless you can afford to live in hotel everyday of your life, you still need to come back to earth and enjoy yr thin mattress and do your own house keeping. why so lansi about short stay in hotel?

more important note is You should treat Airbnb home like your own home. I am realistic, not short term fantasy chaser.

I bet you talk to all the guests in the same corridor in your hotel room.

International guests include everybody except Malaysian citizens.

Airbnb guests are not stranger. In fact, your Airbnb host and portal provider have all the information about yourself, including yr pixs, yr drivers licence.

how many long term tenant that JMB got their face iD? or owner for that matter?
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post Oct 26 2018, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 26 2018, 03:15 PM)
come on lah….unless you can afford to live in hotel everyday of your life, you still need to come back to earth and enjoy yr thin mattress and do your own house keeping. why so lansi about short stay in hotel?

more important note is You should treat Airbnb home like your own home. I am realistic, not short term fantasy chaser.

I bet you talk to all the guests in the same corridor in your hotel room.

International guests include everybody except Malaysian citizens.

Airbnb guests are not stranger. In fact, your Airbnb host and portal provider have all the information about yourself, including yr pixs, yr drivers licence.

how many long term tenant that JMB got their face iD? or owner for that matter?
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Some like to indulge when travel, some like to remain comfortable like home (at hotel). Hence, Airbnb is for certain group of customers e.g those travel cheap.

Airbnb could operate at service apartment, Soho but not residential.

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post Oct 26 2018, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 26 2018, 03:08 PM)
Regalia
Face @ Platinum Suite
Summer suite
Vista alam
Studio 14
Etc.

At melaka even more. Developer builds new high rise target for ppl to do airbnb. Already preinstalled with digital lock codes at the main door.
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which condo is that?
mind sharing info icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 26 2018, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 26 2018, 04:32 PM)
which condo is that?
mind sharing info  icon_rolleyes.gif
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At Kota Laksamana. Wave Residence and Atlantis Residence.
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post Oct 26 2018, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 26 2018, 04:48 PM)
At Kota Laksamana. Wave Residence and Atlantis Residence.
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thanks..
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post Oct 26 2018, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 26 2018, 04:21 PM)
Some like to indulge when travel, some like to remain comfortable like home (at hotel). Hence, Airbnb is for certain group of customers e.g those travel cheap.

Airbnb could operate at service apartment, Soho but not residential.
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then why you even compared hotel vs Airbnb since everyone has preferences?

unfortunately its not for you to decide where Airbnb can operate.

also pls boycott Grab too.
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post Oct 27 2018, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(pilotHans @ Oct 26 2018, 11:36 AM)
1 good read indeed, thanks for sharing  thumbsup.gif

2 Rent& Return is urs? nice thumbsup.gif
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1. No problem! Happy to help. [Thanks to all comments from others too]

2. nod.gif Thanks!


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Am writing this while staying in Airbnb tonight.
My first 'airbnb' experience was more than 20 years ago, when I visited Denmark. The landlady just left the place to myself. So such practices existed pre-airbnb era. The internet and globalisation were not so extensive then. Personally I see no problem with an owner managing his/her own property to short stay guests. The problem I have is the existence of syndicates that manage such Airbnb operations. The unit I am staying now is like that, already I have three 'partners' whom I need to contact during this short stay. rather than 'hosting' a guest and showing local hospitality , this has generated into money making syndicates with little or no intention to 'share' experience. I would say keep Airbnb but ban agents or operators, as they are running a business without proper registration not paying tax.
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post Oct 28 2018, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(torkl @ Oct 27 2018, 11:42 PM)
Am writing this while staying in Airbnb tonight.
My first 'airbnb' experience was more than 20 years ago, when I visited Denmark. The landlady just left the place to myself. So such practices existed pre-airbnb era. The internet and globalisation were not so extensive then. Personally I see no problem with an owner managing his/her own property to short stay guests. The problem I have is the existence of syndicates that manage such Airbnb operations. The unit I am staying now is like that, already I have three 'partners' whom I need to contact during this short stay. rather than 'hosting' a guest and showing local hospitality ,  this has generated into money making syndicates with little or no intention to 'share' experience. I would say keep Airbnb but ban agents or operators, as they are running a business without proper registration not paying tax.
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Can you extend the explanation of operators are running a business without proper registration not paying tax?
I know Airbnb are getting crowd these days and the owners hire some agents or operators to manage their units.
Do you mean they are running a business without a business company registration? or REA license you mean?
I once read a post from Jay'Lord that he get scammed by one of his Airbnb operator
Guess that will happen when the rules are not execute closely by the authorities.

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post Oct 28 2018, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Oct 28 2018, 02:34 AM)
Can you extend the explanation of operators are running a business without proper registration not paying tax?
I know Airbnb are getting crowd these days and the owners hire some agents or operators to manage their units.
Do you mean they are running a business without a business company registration? or REA license you mean?
I once read a post from Jay'Lord that he get scammed by one of his Airbnb operator
Guess that will happen when the rules are not execute closely by the authorities.
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You dun need a licence in any form and substance to run an airbnb operation.

Jaylord dei sei lah....buyx3 for flip but when sheet hits the wall he had no choice but to appoint operator to rent out his vacant units
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post Oct 28 2018, 09:49 AM

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Airbnb is a commercial activity, increase demand and price of residential units; is detrimental to those looking to buy first home, should be banned from residential units.

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