FC? You  worried about FC and you wanted a huge car?

Dear all members, would like to ask which Vellfire more value to get year 2014 below which I want is older model ANH20.

Vellfire 2.4 ZG
Vellfire 3.5 V6 VL

Both are full spec as I was told  and mostly came with 360 cam, pilot seat, memory seat and surround speaker.
Would like to know which more value to get? any common problem? engine durability? resell price? FC?

thanks all.

FC? You  worried about FC and you wanted a huge car?

he should get 1.0 axia , best FC no one can challenge 
buy toyota rush 7 seater 

my experience, there is no value
it really depends what u need from the car itself
if you're driving within city only, 2.4L is enough but if u want to climb some hill..thn get the 3.5L

it also depends what spec are u looking for, u want executive lounge or VL, it's only available in 3.5L engine

and FC is not what u should be considering for neither of these engine, it's not a fuel saving car unless u bought the hybrid version

2.4 ZG kira okay sudah, 3.5 V6 hopefully you don't mind how much the road tax costs, especially at semenanjung. 

2.4 fc already fuel drinker in town, if 3.5 really not have any idea. Must be nightmare. On highway both I believe quite ok since constant speed.

If budget no constraint of course pick 3.5 la. But drive big and heavier car, dont really expect got good fc.

get 2.4 only easy to sell later on

if you do get a good deal, please do share your experience

is this a grey import?

FC no a big problem as long the car full load. It wont hesitate to drive. Just dunno which to choose V6 VL or 2.4 ZG.

wait...i just notice u say 2.4L
you're looking for the old model?..and not the 2.5L new model?
if 2.4L thn i would say stay away
if say is new 2.5 & 3.5L version...if u want normal enough, i would say 2.5L ZG is enough

Yup, I am referring to the old model ANH20 2.4L. Why is that? could you tell me whats the problem? As I knew the balance shaft need to tune and adjust some KMs? else?

V6 always smoother cruising and top end power for.high speed highway overtaking with full load

those car are a little too old to be problem free already
i would suggest to stay away
and i can tell u most are old stock because almost all company are only importing the 2.5L now
and yes, the KM has been adjusted prior u seeing it, that's not the real mileage of the car..it can be very high mileage car

ok noted.. the 2.5L are dual VVti yea.. sound be better. The exterior also looks good for the new model

Dear all members, would like to ask which Vellfire more value to get year 2014 below which I want is older model ANH20.

Vellfire 2.4 ZG
Vellfire 3.5 V6 VL

Both are full spec as I was told  and mostly came with 360 cam, pilot seat, memory seat and surround speaker.
Would like to know which more value to get? any common problem? engine durability? resell price? FC?

thanks all.

As i know from owner.  2.4 is about 7 to 9 km perliter

just get the newer model, at least the mileage won't be far off the adjusted mileage
better peace of mind
else just buy other car

If you're looking for the 20 series, i suggest suggest you get GGH20  if you want to use it for long distance travel.  Otherwise, go for ANH20 if you do frequent city driving. 

I have both GGH20 and ACR30 (similar engine as ANH20) and i find that driving the 3.5L is more fuel efficient compared to the 2.4L on long distance travel, plus the engine is not as stressful.  The RPM is usually at 2.5k @ 160kmh and below 2k at 120kmh.

One thing for sure, resale value for GGH20 is much lower compared to ANH20.  Regular maintenance cost is a bit higher for GGH20 :
1) 6.2L of engine oil for GGH20 vs 4.3L for ANH20. 
2) 6 pcs spark plug for GGH20 vs 4 pcs spark plug for ANH20
3) Labor cost for spark plug is definitely higher for GGH20. It take hours to replace the spark plug due to the plugs location

However, there are certain things that cost lower for GGH20 such as ATF oil and oil filter.

Here is my opinion,

FC - 2.4 is better to be frequently driven in the city. Its fc is acceptable for this car, while 3.5 is better to be driven on highway with full load. 2.4 will need more gas to move the car.

Resale value - Of course 2.4 is better

Engine durability - I heard more 3.5 owners' complaints, so i suppose 2.4 is better.

Verdict - Your needs will determine which one is better. I personally prefer the 3.5 VL for its more powerful V6 engine and beige interior.

So ?  What is your question about FC then ?  The ex-owner already told you what.

Toyota 2.4 litre engine is famous for its reliability, but NOT FC.

Toyota 3.5 L engine is quite power, so-so FC, but the 6 AT is NOT reliable.

Just get the 2.4L lar, no need to worry when you sell it in the future.  First, you won't own the car forever so don't buy one that no one wants to get when you want to sell.  Second, since so many told you 2.4L, just forget about 3.5L.

Newer model for full spec it is out of my budget.  Will try looking others.  Thanks ya

Thanks for your answer.
Mostly I will use it for long distant. But 1 things I dun understand. Why there are different ANH20 and GGH20.  I tot different in exterior only.

Thank you.  I test drove n also prefer 3.5 VL full spec.

Only know the 2.4fc but not V6.
Thank u so the CvT 2.4 are more reliable theb 6At 1. Alright noted.

Newer model for full spec it is out of my budget.  Will try looking others.  Thanks ya

Thanks for your answer.
Mostly I will use it for long distant. But 1 things I dun understand. Why there are different ANH20 and GGH20.  I tot different in exterior only.

Only know the 2.4fc but not V6.
Thank u so the CvT 2.4 are more reliable theb 6At 1. Alright noted.

Only know the 2.4fc but not V6.
Thank u so the CvT 2.4 are more reliable theb 6At 1. Alright noted.

Before buying the car please learn to multi quote.

have u considered toyota voxy??
ANH20 = 2.4L
GGH20 = 3.5L V6

3.5 definitely will have shitty fc. But on highway it is much better and also going up genting.

But if u worry about fc for such car then u also need to worry about the road tax as it is much higher.

It's ridiculous to assume a 3.6L V6 to be more fuel save than a 2.4L inline 4, no matter where you drive.  On pure highway and cruising at 110km/h probably yes but that is probably 2-5% of the time for most people.  But the FC difference (on hwy) is minimal for that.  Power yes, no argue about it.

Yes, CVT for the 2.4L is more reliable than the 6AT transmission.  Many many mechanics confirmed that to me when I send my wife estima for service.  And that is for stock (un-modified) cars.

Some ppl claimed that the 6AT easily overheat due to the cooling design, and fixing a oil cooler will help.  But I can never verify this.

If every mechanic is to say the 6AT not as reliable as CVT, then the used car buyers will also know how to avoid it or bargain hard when it comes to the selling off.  Because someone has to pay a big sum to fix the transmission along the life cycle of the car.

Also try not to buy a 4WD Vellfire, not matter what engine.  Those are fuel suckers and meant for Hokkaido.

You are right about the 6AT.. I have friends already experienced some issue with the 6AT, but so far I have not experience any problem since 2013 *touch wood*.  This is probably because i had installed original Toyota ATF cooler in my car which cost a bomb, unlike some of them who wither use 3rd party cooler such as Hayden or none at all.

Thank you. Noted..
What is the sign of the problem 6AT?

You are right about the 6AT.. I have friends already experienced some issue with the 6AT, but so far I have not experience any problem since 2013 *touch wood*.  This is probably because i had installed original Toyota ATF cooler in my car which cost a bomb, unlike some of them who wither use 3rd party cooler such as Hayden or none at all.

how can a car that expensive doesn't come with ATF cooler in original form when even a proton saga has it
same issue as honda city...doesn't come with ATF cooler and have overheat issue

It's ridiculous to assume a 3.6L V6 to be more fuel save than a 2.4L inline 4, no matter where you drive.  On pure highway and cruising at 110km/h probably yes but that is probably 2-5% of the time for most people.  But the FC difference (on hwy) is minimal for that.  Power yes, no argue about it.

For most cars, the ATF is cooled by piping the ATF into radiator.  Those radiator are something like double channels where the coolant and ATF are co-exist inside there.  In such case, if the cooling is not sufficient (JDM cars probably have smaller radiator or less aggressive cooling fan etc, no problem in Japan but BIG problem in MY) then prolong overhead will kill the transmission over time.

That's why people install aftermarket oil cooler, which is a separate "radiator" attached on main radiator to cool the ATF separately.

sorry for noob question, what is ATF stand for?

how can a car that expensive doesn't come with ATF cooler in original form when even a proton saga has it
same issue as honda city...doesn't come with ATF cooler and have overheat issue

Really depends on what u need .
If u are  the sayang car type of ppl , drive at speed limit and do not floor the car. Just slow n steady. 2.4 will be good enoughm
Im using 2.4 anh20. Correct , just pump n drive, no issue watsoever , peace of mind , roadtax also not headache. Gb cvt is best , 110kmjh @ 2100rpm . Pickup also good . Engine very reliable . Nothing much to complain. Family happy,im happy ,wallet also happy. Btw do add ultra racing fullset , not expensive 2.1k can get , change ur vf from sampan to equiminity ... : D

Obvious differences between bigger engine compared to smaller one is condition during traffic jams, start & stop traffic and during idle. U drive 3.5 on highway, got big smile due to effortless high speed cruising, but once u see traffic jams ahead, u will shake head, depends on how long u trap in jams but longer u trap, the obvious differences with 2.4

I drive 2.4 sedan and 1.5 sedan. On smooth highway, fuel is jimat. Not really felt 2.4 fuel, just cruise and coasting using cruise control. But once start face traffic jams and car crawling very slow and sometimes stop 2 3 minutes, can really felt it drink fuel. If 1500cc car not really drinking during jams. Cannot feel differences at all.

Same goes to all engine. My engineer friends said, the bigger engine, the bigger it will burn fuel at idle. In idle, eventhough u dont press accelerator,  it will still burn fuel due to its need to operate and lubricate the engine.

Ya, if want fast/effortless cruising take 3.5, but if u want win in term of economical I still feel 2.4 win. Depends on ur purpose.

Driver love driving fast and getting 2.4- Wrong decision
Driver love driving slow and steady but getting 3.5-wrong decision also

Pick the one that maximize ur driving style and follow @pg84 right decision. Can see he know exactly what he needs.

Dear all members, would like to ask which Vellfire more value to get year 2014 below which I want is older model ANH20.

Vellfire 2.4 ZG
Vellfire 3.5 V6 VL

Both are full spec as I was told  and mostly came with 360 cam, pilot seat, memory seat and surround speaker.
Would like to know which more value to get? any common problem? engine durability? resell price? FC?

thanks all.

get a nissan serena hybrid sir. good fc.