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post Apr 26 2019, 09:21 PM

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Hello, guys...why does everyone seem to be wanting to buy this? Cuz the return is consistent high at 6% ish?
Also, how do we buy more...I saw from Maybank app that I can top up, does that mean I'd have to try luck by pressing till I get it? I don't quite get the difference between getting it through MBB and the main website, thanks for enlightening in advance.

Btw, in referring specifically for ASN3 Wawasan

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post Apr 27 2019, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(xeon1989 @ Apr 26 2019, 11:06 PM)
1. Nope, dividend is not constantly at 6%. It could be higher or lower. Dividend for 2018 is 5.5%.
2. You may buy via MyASNB portal, Maybank2u or even with PNB agent.
3. Buy via Maybank2u cost another RM1 if unit available iirc. But you don't need to key in captcha with Maybank.

Also, it's either ASM3 (former Amanah Saham 1Malaysia) or ASM2 (former Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020).
Dont have ASN3 Wawasan  biggrin.gif
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Sorry, it's the latter, lol... thanks for the info. I guess if we're free, we can just login, press press and see if we get it since it's always not available. And it's free withdrawal anytime, right? Sounds macam really good, hmm...
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post Apr 28 2019, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(xeon1989 @ Apr 28 2019, 12:27 AM)
Unfortunately you might need more free time during end of month like this, where everyone rebut last chance to top up. Available unit grabbed within seconds.
For long term investment, best time is early of each month. And best of the best time to top up is right after dividend release.

You need physically present in order for withdrawal (to poke IC), so it's some kind of force saving too.
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Thanks for your advices. I never realized people grab this like crazy @_@ indeed it's good as an alternative saving option.
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post May 18 2019, 12:55 AM

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I remember the days when people were worried that EPF money will be gone and then panic ensued, people withdraw money out for house purchase, etc.
Is this still the case since I see many people here are maximising self contribution to EPF instead?

And is it worth increasing savings there?
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post May 18 2019, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 18 2019, 06:56 AM)
Morning Sapphire,

Unker says good question. The answer is 2 different words, 'Trust n Believe'.. Most logical will have to believe the facts on EPF as well as ASX demonstrated yearly dividends (in the papers n media) are better than FD. Yet ASX started ard >14 years, some still believe its a Ponsy scheme or major firm of Racism n don't wish to invest.

Also, people believe in Pidm when it says amounts below $250k guaranteed, but doesn't know how much of the Pidm money is leveraged (enuf to pay all investors), n  who gets paid first (does the rich n well connnected customers get priority) when there's multiple bank runs n Govt collapsing.

So that's 'believe', is something you cannot see but in your mind it's true (Unker won't cross the line into Religion).

Unker own mother is 84yrs old, she was a nurse who worked with her boss assisting eye Ops until she was 81 yrs old. She wanted to be independent, active, save money. She loves me, believes I will never do any wrong, dutiful son.....

Except she doesn't trust Unker putting her money in ASX. She only trusts the Tiger Bank. Hahaha, what more to say? I can't even convince own mother, how to convince random strangers in a forum ASX, EPF is safe n good investment?

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Unker, thanks for such refreshing view, lol...

QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 18 2019, 07:53 AM)
Hahaha Unker disgusted with my typo errors early morning... But OK, think I got the msg thru.

Today personally, EPF n ASX forms the bedrock of Unker liquid investment. Using historical Conservative interest rates, just these 2 instruments pays me interest >rm$0. 38/minute, 24/7/365.

Unker will continue to pump $ into both instruments and hope it'll continue with  sustainable dividend above 5%, something that Unker will heavily depends on during retirement, in next couple of years....to support family needs n wants, charitable foundations in education, temple funds, High hopes - private museum cum dessert shop in Georgetown for Unker to meet people n pass time, hahaha.

If both Efp n ASX turns out to be Ponsy scheme or Money Game,.... if you see an elderly man selling economy beehoon near Queensbay Mall, likely its Unker.  Pls support buy few packets, OK? Just say membership password 'Lowyat Asnb Fp' ... Unker throws extra pickled chilly.
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Appreciate your response in this. You're hilarious...and if it really turns out as Ponsy, I think for baby fish like me also won't have money to buy bee hoon liao sad.gif

Actually when I think of it...5% of a large amount of money, safe safe pass the day also quite alot to help sustain our lives. Maybe it's not a bad idea to try put more in.
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post May 18 2019, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ May 18 2019, 04:10 AM)
People will think of some way. Anyway, I laundered this from : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4524749 Post #26
What to do. After the 60k limit, no safe haven to put already. 1000 ASMx a day also beyond reach.
In my opinion, when you're near retirement age, can deposit more. Funds won't get locked for too long. You can already withdraw from Account 2 at 50 years old.

Yeah I used to listen to those people. But later on, observed that it's very difficult to swindle 1money from EPF. That's why we haven't hear any 1money missing from EPF. Should be relatively safe, unless 1Msia collapse.

For house, one reason to withdraw EPF to pay housing loan is when interest rate skyrocket like 1997/8. Of course, the other is for downpayment.

Not sure if many are maximizing the 60k. Just read that some are self-contributing some spare change.
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Ya, if near retirement age, it gets less nervous since shorter time to get them back (if nothing goes wrong). Now after reading some comments, quite good also to let it serve as a silent savings till old age for me and maybe consider doing some tiny bit extra self contribution.

While I look up on the info, can also the seasoners who did the 60k let me know if it's yearly limit and how do you self contribute?
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post May 19 2019, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(DeniseLau @ May 19 2019, 01:06 PM)
Just to share - here's the major difference I noticed in using MyASNB portal vs. using the direct transfer from Maybank2U Pay & Transfer option:

MyASNB Pros:
- You can keep trying much faster than M2U, just keep filling in the captcha
- You can use the Google Chrome addon to auto fill the captcha if you trust the addon

MyASNB Cons:
- Once you catch a fish, you need some time to complete the FPX transfer before you can try again
- Sometimes MyASNB kicks you out and you can't get back in for 15 minutes

M2U Pros:
- Once you catch a big fish, you can immediately try again much faster than FPX, sometimes this lets you catch 2 or 3 big fishes in a row - managed to get 3 big fish (2x ASM3, 1xASM2) one after another sometime last month from this

M2U Cons:
- RM1 charge for each successful transaction, so you need to maximize your investment by trying for bigger fish
- Sometimes the link between M2U and ASNB has problem, money debited in M2U but transaction failed, need to report to Maybank call centre and wait 1 week++ to get refund and they won't refund the RM1 (kena this 2 or 3 times already, sucks!)
- Bank statement looks really messy with many debits and credits unless you have a dedicated account for ASNB then you don't need to care
I guess the best option is to hybrid both, keep trying in MyASNB until you catch a big fish (or get kicked out) then immediately switch to M2U to see if there are any more fishes. But complete the FPX before the timer runs out. A bit mafan but I suppose this way might net you the best of both worlds.
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Oh ya, I tried that day and it added so many lines to the transactions :/

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post May 20 2019, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 20 2019, 02:07 PM)
Unker distress observing our talented fellow Malaysians unable to invest for a comfortable future/retirement.

Really senseless n non productive for our prime working individuals to do spamming during office hours or developing new biz. Investing shud be made easily available and little effort for all races. (Unker is a private person, as such, no FB.)... Need FB to start petition. 😑

Maybe, have one of fellow forumer start a petition (Go Petition) for PNB to increase Asnb FP allocation size. Since PNB wish to invest overseas, they will need more $$$ due to MYR weakness...to be a substantial investor.

Our new Malaysia shud really try to encourage everyone to invest, n not continue putting barriers..... Sigh!!!

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Yup, to invest, macam kena snipe here and there to get some units. So weird, lol...but I guess that's just the way it is. I mean, our funds are broken into race-based types...so...what message are they sending out, right...oh well :/

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post May 23 2019, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 21 2019, 03:28 PM)
Master Hansel. Wow! Privileged to cross path. Very insightful msg. You cannot be the young Master Hansel & Gretel lost in the woods, more likely, a Jedi Master.

Pls elaborate, you Used to be a ASX investor... Now, already moved on the more exciting investments? Pls do share, I am all ears (likely all eyes, to read yr responses)

Hahaha, hope fellow forumers don't lose patience with  Unker daily yapping n trying to be idealistic when it comes to, call for powers that be... To be colour blind in helping enrich n empowering the deserving.

You raised all the pertinent points. Unker waiting correction (yawn! Already waiting 2-3yrs liao, last opportunity was the Brexit... Pull small trigger on OCBC n DBS), now as ASX getting more competition....if this continues for few more months, thinking cost averaging on Vanguard S&P low cost fund.

Unker was working alone in SIN (left Mal when Sgd exchange was 2.0; return to Mal n family after opted for early retirement, work burn-out Y16). Now, Unker employed by my supplier old boss. Look-see n mentoring job...travel within Apac.

Initially, working in Penang... I witnessed how my old company unfairly treated my then mentor (an Unker more senior than me, taught me abt EQ n work ethics)... We slogged 10yrs together, so much for company, once old, kena whacked till forced take package. After that incident, within 3 months I pulled my contacts n was working in SIN.

Epilogue... What happened to my old mentor? Just 5 years ago sold off 40-50 acres of Penang Island durian orchard, financially, he's doing very, very alright!!! Hahaha. Positive karma.
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Uncle, thanks for constantly sharing your stories...learnt alot from them. Also, did working in SG helped you financially?
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post May 23 2019, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 23 2019, 06:20 AM)
Errr Xeon, you must still be young n pure at heart....

After married, all the $$$$ belongs to Auntie. Unker just talk big in forum, take daily allowance only.

Shhhh, don't laugh too loud, in case Auntie finds out.
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Lol, Unker so funny and humble...

QUOTE(Hansel @ May 23 2019, 06:56 AM)
Yeh,... I pprecited unker's stories too,...

Perhaps I might offer an opinion here : I think working in SG helped to expose me to the available opportunities in the world outside beyond Msia. We get to see the disparity of the situations in Msia compared against the world. But don't get me wrong - not everything OUTSIDE there is better than Msia.

In terms of making money FROM INVESTMENTS, yes, SG is better than Msia, Australia, and a whole lot of other countries in the world..

There are many factors to consider,... we need to be exposed to the outside world.
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This resonates with my friend's experience after she moved there. She got so much better in her investment skills, knowledge and gained alot more money (stress do come with it), after she exposed herself to that world. I do envy her for having that opportunity to move...still hustling and waiting for mine *sobs*

Exposure to outside world is extremely important, we must not be frog under tempurung. If your job doesn't allow for that, then read more, and research more till the cows come home. Don't sit and expect miracle.

QUOTE(Hansel @ May 23 2019, 07:01 AM)
Don't know-lar, unker,... for myself, I want to be able to manage my own funds for the rest of my life as long as I'm physically able to, till I go,.. I'll never leave all the funds to someone else to manage.

Sure, if that someone loves you enough not to question your expenses,.. BUT the day will come when that someone starts to question your productivity and economic contribution to the household.

Anyway,... investing is an activity that we can do for the rest of our life. Not too much of physical activity involved. The more we do, the more we exercise our brains, the stronger we become in this field.
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Good for you, Hansel.
I also can't imagine having another half questioning about this. Guess must find one that can mutually complement each other so can move forward together by working together, no letting the other sit and expect spoon feeding. For guys, don't spoil your ladies like this if you want them to not degenerate in future.

QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 23 2019, 08:08 AM)
Xeon,
Pretty well thought responses, well done.... If both parties are working, then split the income fairly (both in agreement) into shared 3 accounts = household vs him vs her accounts.

You struck the right cord abt being independent n self learning.

Bravo! Lastly, don't just save, save, save... Wor, if like a Korea or Osaka trip, just redeem some $ n go... Experience is more important than things.
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Yeah, friendly reminder, life is also not all about work and money. If made decent amount, go holiday also good for your well being. Although, I cannot do fancy ones like Unker yet tongue.gif
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post May 23 2019, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 23 2019, 01:07 PM)
All YOLO. very kanasai.
Got 1 approach me for investment idea.
I tell them so many ways. Go SGX don't want, go SA don't want, FSMOne don't want, macam bodo. Then ask me want to invest in MY necasue he think he convert SGD can have a lot in MYR. to invest.
Bodo or not.

Got ready SG acc liao. Can open easily liao. alamak
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Those YOLO-ers...if done right, maybe still okay. Some I see just splurge, no backup plans, no contingency mindset, etc. I feel quite...stupiak.

Secondly...if I were them, I'd be happily hopping around trying to figure out what to do with the investment opportunities there. Your friends all too happy earning and spending SGD ha.

Like you said, our MYR sometimes really fall short when trying to buy the investment there...but...will persevere and work towards it.
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post May 23 2019, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ May 23 2019, 04:45 PM)
This week quite good. 12k units managed to grab on asm. This time 2500 each try though. Cannot 5000 anymore
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This is alot...quite a feat, lol... happy for you.
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post May 24 2019, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 24 2019, 10:54 AM)
Hahaha,
Unker hide into toilet, try-try also get 1k ASM1, 10am.
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Like that also can?? Lol...I think toilet maybe more 'ong'

Unker, do you get yours through MBB or ASNB website?

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post May 24 2019, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(jianwei90 @ May 24 2019, 03:07 PM)
why uncle didnt try ASM2 or ASM3?
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QUOTE(skty @ May 24 2019, 03:10 PM)
ASM so far is the easiest fund to get for this month
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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 24 2019, 03:32 PM)
Haha Unker copy Bro Stky answer... ASM so far is the easiest fund to get for this month. But today, regular fishermen quiet...???
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Hi, guys...I've only got ASM Wawasan (when I was a child, when mother has no money, but still tried her best save some for me), and stopped few years after. So I only know of this fund.

Is there a difference between this and ASM and ASM 3? I read the details, they seemed almost the same to me. Should I then buy any between these 3? Thanks for this.
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post May 25 2019, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ May 24 2019, 05:42 PM)
Negligible difference in dividend only. Buy whichever available.
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Ya, saw earlier on their website, seems like dividends are the only difference...so I was concerned if I missed out on an eligibility criteria or something. Thanks for confirmation.

QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 24 2019, 05:44 PM)
😥😢😇, wah Unker hear already,.. Unker very emotional. Quickly, research for Sapphire.
In future, need any info, let ue know....

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 24 2019, 08:50 PM)
Here you go Elder sis....Mister Leaf

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Unker, appreciate the support and sharing of info.

You know, before I looked into this thread and learnt from all fellow helpful forumers, ASNB to me is like a memory, a reminder of how it was when the fund was launched >20 years ago; my mother excitedly told me something that I had zero knowledge in at that time and said, this is all I can buy, girl (prolly total 500 or 1k). I just went, oh okay (since I had no idea what it was). And then later...my high school friends shared how their parents got them 10k-20k, wow...my eyes went shocking.gif mellow.gif huh.gif very big money back in those days. But I was okay then, cuz I knew not everyone is equal in wealth, most importantly I knew how much my mother sacrificed for me eventhough she had so little.

So anyway, I was told this kind of subscription once full, it's done deal, no more... didn't know until two decades later that we could still get them like how it's done now, hehe, don't laugh sleep.gif

QUOTE(Hansel @ May 24 2019, 06:53 PM)
Welcome bro,...

Nobody will help us if we don't help ourselves,...
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This is a saying that I hold close to me as well. We are responsible for ourselves, no one else.

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post Jun 1 2019, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ May 31 2019, 04:45 PM)
Tried $25k/pop from 901-1130am, no luck... Yet someone caught $60k.😥😭
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My eyes opened very, very wide today.
There's always a higher mountain than you...and to think Unker punya 25k also very over liao, but this person even more hiong. And still got it!
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post Jun 5 2019, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 5 2019, 04:46 PM)
Unker just came across this n tried to investigate on FAQs, but not readily available.

Looks interesting, a kwsp member can choose to maximum top-up remainder of net income (post kwsp n Lhdn deductions); or can just fill up 17a n follow the $60k self contribution process?

Unker can immediately identify with the merits of this monthly top up process. I think it's an option for non-bumi to workaround the senseless spamming n low catch rate due to shrinking ASX pool.

Except for the younger n over-adventurous investors, possibly ending up with stretchrd budget n the kwsp funds is quite illiquid n there's rigid withdrawal criteria, that'll be a challenge.

Will go kwsp this Fri morning to dig further.

On the flip side, Unker doesn't have vice worth mentioning, the daily $ bets ASX spamming, does create some personal satisfaction n excitement, tell fishermen tales in this forum. Pity gonna miss all that.
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Unker sounds very proper today, lol...

I'm confused, are you letting go of buying ASx?

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post Jun 6 2019, 06:45 PM

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Why is everyone talking about ASM4 macam it's already there, lol...I is confused.
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post Jun 9 2019, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jun 9 2019, 09:29 AM)
Alamak, just got off video call with Auntie.

She says, my long noodle-msg, Unker sounds more like a shampoo girl, rather than sinseh. No answer one, round n round only.

On the bright side, think that's her way of saying, she loves me.

Unker going to my fav Tamil Street roti prata. Yippeeee.
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Haha, that's funny. But I enjoyed Unker's long-winded msg sometimes, it's a delight to read.
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post Jun 10 2019, 11:38 PM

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Surprisingly I've read so much more insights about many things rather than just ASNB here, lol...it's a gem to stumble upon Unkers and others on their daily rants.

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