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kachak
post Nov 22 2018, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(genesic @ Nov 19 2018, 06:36 PM)
looks like got service charges if want to  Tranfer to ASNB account.
i not sure how it works.
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it works like normal 3rd party fund transfer. you can transfer to other people also. but need to know IC and ASNB acc no.

think of other people's asnb account like any other people's bank accounts. you can transfer money to them, you can add them as favourite if you want to transfer frequently (so you can add parents, siblings, spouse etc to this list).

I think that one would be what's different than myASNB. cuz myASNB you cannot transfer to anyone other than yourself or your kids (unless you can login into their myASNB lor). of ocurse the downside is the RM1 charge. but you know laaa they're banks what. they will try to suck your money whenever possible tongue.gif
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post Dec 7 2018, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Dec 7 2018, 07:39 AM)
i get ASM3 statement post to my house. anyway to request for EMAIL instead of normal post?
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I think in myASNB under personal details there is something called mail method or something. maybe try change from there? see how. or if you have time to go at branch you can update at their kiosk there. I did my kemaskini at the kiosk. haven't been receiving paper statement since.
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post Dec 18 2018, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Dec 17 2018, 09:16 PM)
Actually for CIMB password issue, remind me in earlier days I can use special chars in myasnb password, but now seems can't.

Anyone can confirm this with me?
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you're right. it seems they get too many people complaining that the password combination is "too complicated" and "hard to create/remember" LOL.

I am so confused with this though. Aren't passwords supposed to be complicated and difficult so people can't guess?
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post Dec 19 2018, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Dec 19 2018, 11:59 AM)
Madam ,

ASNB staff informed me by call regarding rm100 will be refund and bank in to my saving by tomorrow .

1)causes of unsuccessful complete top up due to fpx problem .

2) i ask asnb staff the same question again , what if i didn't call asnb about this problem , can asnb auto detect this problem and auto refund ?  their answered is "yes' unless the bank account provided is incorrect .

** personally i don't think they so expert(keng) can auto detect the problem without we make report, so i repeat ask same question (unker ultimate skill,nagging kuat kuat ) then i can feel the caller sounds impatient ** rclxs0.gif
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actually they really can. they may not be the most advanced, but they know what they do. they have to make sure accounts is balanced at end of day. they're not even allowed to simply charge customers. you think where they gonna park that extra money? they are bound by SC regulations. cannot create unit without money and cannot take money without unit. no need to speculate anything la. it's a dangerous thing and can give bad sentiment. you want your dividend to go down ka whistling.gif
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post Dec 19 2018, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 19 2018, 12:23 PM)
Hmm..
From the way asnb doing it...
From MyASNB portal to instant top up via M2U & ATM... Its all about bumi unit holders only... Others non bumi like forgotten...
Even all those contest / events done.. Its all tweek towards certain race groups only.. Even the winners list says all about it.. Transparency is at doubt...
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no need to be like that la. you know also pnb/asnb objective has always been about empowering Bumi economy. and most of their customers are Bumi anyway. it's not skewed on purpose. it's because of percentage. higher number, higher percentage hence higher chance.

insider info: their winner selection is randomly done by machine. not human.
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post Dec 19 2018, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Dec 19 2018, 03:58 PM)
TBH, I believe it's machine selected, and I also believe in unfair selection.

It's easy. If you roll out "undesirable result", you just need to reroll until you get "desirable result".

EDIT: Another way is remove from list, then machine selection

It's because I believe 25% has far more wealth than the majority 70%. It's in our genes that we loves to save money.

With myasnb, I am sure we non have a very lots of entries.
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If you compare by amount, yes I would agree that the non-bumis counts for far higher. I also agree that almost 80% of ASB unitholders ONLY own 5k or less. which is far from significant considering the total funds that ASNB is managing.
But most of their contests are based on how many transactions you make only. not by how much. and ASB has overall the highest no of transactions every year.

you know what, I really think this kind of speculation is unnecessary. it's not helping anyone.
non-bumi counts for about what? 20-30% of all unitholders?
and in every contest of 10 winners, isn't there at least 2 or 3 non bumi who won?

so let's just chill, and think positive only.


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post Dec 21 2018, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(ericlks91 @ Dec 21 2018, 08:30 AM)
So apparently i got the error below when trying to top-up ASM.

I called them they said due to yesterday's ASB's closure, it might affect other products and the system currently has some issues.  puke.gif

[attachmentid=10142418]
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That's by far the lamest and stupidest answer I've heard LOL.
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post Dec 21 2018, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Dec 21 2018, 09:26 AM)
How  come when I logged in today and I can still see they allow top-up??  confused.gif

Update:  Just to try, I managed to top up RM100 to ASM2 and transaction succesful at 9:32am  doh.gif
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SUspended for ASB and ASN ONLY la. other funds can still topup like normal.
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post Dec 21 2018, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Dec 21 2018, 11:38 AM)
bonus 0.5 for 1st 10k only?
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NO it is not. Effective rate is 6.50 + 0.5

Those "for first 10k" thing was last year only. they have dividend + bonus + special bonus if you remember.

the "special bonus" was the one for first 10k. the bonus is still normal bonus. FOR ALL YOUR ASB UNIT HOLDINGS.
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post Dec 21 2018, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 21 2018, 11:37 AM)
ASB lowest dividen giveout ever in history.
Thanks to the change in government. Thank you PH. Thank you LGE.
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WTF does it has to do with PH and LGE?

FOR FUCKS SAKE stop associating every single thing with politics.


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post Dec 21 2018, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Dec 21 2018, 11:45 AM)
The above pretty much sums up 99% of ASB investors. Some people think it's so easy to make money in current economic climate  bangwall.gif
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pretty much sums up about their level of intellect as well. they think PNB pluck money out of thin air. or maybe just "peram" their investment money suddenly it multiplies. never understood the word "INVESTMENT"
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post Dec 21 2018, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Dec 21 2018, 01:49 PM)
then why not they just announce it as 7%?
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If you have to ask this question, you haven't been with them long enough. just saying.
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post Dec 24 2018, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(ericlks91 @ Dec 21 2018, 05:45 PM)
Guys my friend opened a new ASNB acc this morning with Maybank and bought some ASN SARA 2.

But he told me when he wants to sign up in myASNB, when selecting the "Pilih 1 produk ASNB yang dilanggani", he selected ASN Sara 2, but it failed and asked him to select again.

My question is can online account be opened the same day as opening new acc in branch? or what seems to be the issue here?
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Sara 2 is not like any other VP funds. others are historical price. Sara 2 is forward price. You cannot open yet because price & units bought has not been finalised. So it's not yet confirmed. Need to wait 1 or 2 days
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post Dec 27 2018, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Lance XIII @ Dec 27 2018, 11:33 AM)
Is there any difference I top up lets say 200 per month compared to 2.4k in one month and tunggu next year? Sorry investing noob here
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yes. your monthly lowest balance will be different. if you can afford to do one shot, do it. if cannot then no choice lah.

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post Dec 27 2018, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Lance XIII @ Dec 27 2018, 02:38 PM)
Sorry but I dont quite understand, doesn't it compound annually? Like for example if as long as I can get 2.4k (doesnt matter how, in one day or over 12 months) in before the dividend date it will produce the same result?  icon_question.gif
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dividend is based on your lowest balance of each month, averaged.
and you need to top up on the 1st of each month for the balance to be counted for the month's dividend.

e.g. let's say u start with 0 and ASB fund.
1st Jan - 200
1st feb - 400
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by dec you have 2.4k

average that by 12 months. that's the balance that will be used to calculate your dividend (around 1.1k)

BUT if 1st Jan u straight away put in 2.4k, for the full 12 months your lowest balance will be 2.4k (if you're not adding more money). so your average will be 2.4k

1.1k x 7%
&
2.4k x 7%

which one is higher?

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post Dec 27 2018, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(xeon1989 @ Dec 27 2018, 04:07 PM)
Let me illustrate it.

Assumption:
6% dividend
Total investment RM2400/year
Financial Year start on Jan

As mentioned by @kachuak, if you have money just dump in RM2.4K in early of financial year.
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THANKS! I was too lazy to do this lol.
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post Jan 3 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 3 2019, 10:35 AM)
Maybank, Public Bank, BAT (rokok dunhill) shariah compliance?
ASB got invest in those companies...

Got the answer boss 🙏
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quite a while they don't have BAT anymore.

but yes, conventional banks still big part.

although banks also have "islamic" portion, but no ASB is not fully shariah compliant.
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post Jan 4 2019, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(NGV22 @ Dec 28 2018, 02:13 PM)
I have ASM and ASM 3 account books. But when i sign up and login into MyASNB portal, it only shows that I have ASM 3.

Any advice?
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it can be one of these reasons:

1. you open the two accounts using different ID e.g. ASM using old IC, then ASM3 using mykad
2. inside the system you have 2 different ASNB acc number.

there is no other choice but to go to their office. and then, depending on what kind of "fixes" your account needed, you may or may not have to register myASNB again. please remember to ask them about it.
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post Jan 21 2019, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 21 2019, 10:12 AM)
Huh?
What audit issues hmm.gif
Care to explained if u have info icon_rolleyes.gif
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ya la. simply said only and then disappear with no explanation. cannot la like dat.
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post Feb 18 2019, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Feb 18 2019, 09:42 AM)
Created account and bought VP ASN equity 5 for RM10 on Saturday at ASNB office.
Till now still not able to register online account.

Anyone knows how long does it takes for it to reflect
For those wondering, counter told me 3.5% SC, but slip says 0% SC for some reason
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equity 5 is forward pricing. u buy Saturday, bursa close, no NAV. no NAV hence unable to calculate ISC also. I think they will be able to allocate your units only today. maybe try to register later in the evening or tomorrow.

cooling off period is not related to this. the cooling off period means you are allowed to withdraw (i.e. cancel buying) and get back FULL AMOUNT including the ISC. after cooling off period is over, you can only withdraw whatever total units you received (minus ISC).

hope this clarifies.

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