QUOTE(saitong09 @ Nov 15 2018, 08:05 PM)
Well your choice..Some feels monthly EPF contribution deduction is not enough.. Thus add more as self contributions ๐
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Nov 15 2018, 08:05 PM) Ohh got max. Ok say I max 60k in it. When I need itย I can put in letter for purchase right. Say houses, what else, cars, so on. Only difference is need to wait only. http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/ms/web/kwsp/...-of-withdrawalsonly this kind of withdrawal is allowed. house - yes car - no over 1m in kwsp - also can withdraw This post has been edited by john123x: Nov 15 2018, 08:15 PM |
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QUOTE(john123x @ Nov 15 2018, 08:12 PM) http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/ms/web/kwsp/...-of-withdrawals Hmm not easy ah. Say if suddenlt bursa crash u wanna sapu, can't act fast enough alsoonly this kind of withdrawal is allowed. house - yes car - no |
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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Nov 15 2018, 09:42 AM) I've always see one common thing that ppl make is to assume that one they pay off the loan, u r not incurring any "interest lost" on the house. Actually u r losing the potential earning from the cash u use to pay off the loan You are rightE.g. Guy A buys a house 1m house with cash... 5 years later he sell at 1.15m.... He thinks he earned 150k Guy B puts 1m in FD @4% pa, 5 years later he get 1.22m So, if u ask me guy A has already lost 70k... For simplicity sake, I am not including tenant income whatsoever, but to remind ppl to be careful when calculating returns in property investment Previously i also think like that because my fren say buy house easy earn, but after she buy a house, we only know nothing earn, still need spend time find people rent, and in next 5 year, i dont think so malaysia property will rise up much, maybe still maintain, how she earn? And the 5% tax lagi๐ช๐ช๐ช |
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QUOTE(jason210 @ Nov 15 2018, 08:16 PM) You are right No one can forecast the future, any investment got risk and reward.Previously i also think like that because my fren say buy house easy earn, but after she buy a house, we only know nothing earn, still need spend time find people rent, and in next 5 year, i dont think so malaysia property will rise up much, maybe still maintain, how she earn? And the 5% tax lagi๐ช๐ช๐ช |
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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Nov 15 2018, 02:14 PM) Well, my point is to include hidden evaluation when calculating a property profitability, so that ppl don't blindly go into property investment.. I see and agree with your point. However, you'll be amazed how many people are not aware of how they can put their idle cash to work.I have seen house owners who buy house in cash, then set a target price... leave the house empty and seemingly happy to wait a few years until that target price is reached. They are naive into thinking just bcoz there are no home loan interest, they are not "losing" any money These are the people who proudly pay cash for a new car and think those who take loans are not wise. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Nov 15 2018, 08:26 PM) I see and agree with your point. However, you'll be amazed how many people are not aware of how they can put their idle cash to work. Not much people got time and effort to utilise the idle cash. If take car loan and put idle cash in FD only, then it is not wise too.These are the people who proudly pay cash for a new car and think those who take loans are not wise. |
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Woot Woot.
Only 1 day no see thread so many reply on props. Now I suppose times had change, flip prop is very old trick to get rich. And Developer is the one causing this. Physical gold, props. All not viable. Rental market also kena press. Mainly because our gov no any regulation on it and prop owner always at losing end. I also fedup with my tenant. So many troubles. Post 2014, the price also stagnant for some sub urb. But some ong place the price still shoot up. Unless the town really dead la. Props? Better go REITS! |
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Nov 15 2018, 09:56 PM) Woot Woot. The term is limited. Gold is limited, so it must be expensive. Property land is limited, so it should be expensive. Bitcoin is limited, and you knows the story.Only 1 day no see thread so many reply on props. Now I suppose times had change, flip prop is very old trick to get rich. And Developer is the one causing this. Physical gold, props. All not viable. Rental market also kena press. Mainly because our gov no any regulation on it and prop owner always at losing end. I also fedup with my tenant. So many troubles. Post 2014, the price also stagnant for some sub urb. But some ong place the price still shoot up. Unless the town really dead la. Props? Better go REITS! It was the same reason the speculative investors flip the price. |
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Nov 15 2018, 09:56 PM) Woot Woot. pages earlier just mentioned to avoid REITs due to 10% witholding taxOnly 1 day no see thread so many reply on props. Now I suppose times had change, flip prop is very old trick to get rich. And Developer is the one causing this. Physical gold, props. All not viable. Rental market also kena press. Mainly because our gov no any regulation on it and prop owner always at losing end. I also fedup with my tenant. So many troubles. Post 2014, the price also stagnant for some sub urb. But some ong place the price still shoot up. Unless the town really dead la. Props? Better go REITS! may be shall shift to Tax Exempted vehicle..oversea source income : foreign stocks, ETF, REITs, fx, etc. big portion + emergency fund in ASx is good chamber to store hard earned fund. |
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QUOTE(fairylord @ Nov 15 2018, 10:35 PM) pages earlier just mentioned to avoid REITs due to 10% witholding tax erm.. actually la... I very very new to tax. any place I can know which type of investments are tax bounded?may be shall shift to Tax Exempted vehicle..oversea source income : foreign stocks, ETF, REITs, fx, etc. big portion + emergency fund in ASx is good chamber to store hard earned fund. |
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Nov 15 2018, 10:49 PM) erm.. actually la... I very very new to tax. any place I can know which type of investments are tax bounded? Bro, i'm not sure too.Wonder if the P2P (is like loan to other and collect interest) and Stashaway (US ETF already subjected to 30% witholding tax in US) in your portfolio subject to any tax. I see some sifu is investing in Singapore REITs market which I remember is TE. FD more than certain amount also need to pay tax on interest gain, some sifu in FD thread mentioned. Forex Trading a bit grey area, but so far, none was taxed, probably its considered foreign source income / capital gain on price of currency pair, so no tax. As for ASX, may be sifu here could advice, i think already taxed before distributed to usใ |
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