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post Oct 17 2018, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(david9412 @ Oct 10 2018, 05:21 PM)
My current car have been with me for around 9 years 200k km, still performing well but many of the parts started to wear, suspension noises getting louder so i am considering of buying a new cars.

Spotted second hand mazda 6 2.5 yr2015 (some manufacture yr 2014) priced @ around RM78-83k (Ori Price around RM190k), in term of pricing its quite attractive.

any sifu here know well baout this car can give some idea if this car is worth to buy? biggrin.gif
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im driving that car, awesome.

got the ECU remap, super awesome throttle response and power (reach full hp at 4k+ instead of 6k rpm). i-stop shut off d
pedal shifters are awesome too. frequently play within 2nd (up to 80kmh) and 3rd gear (up to 140kmh)
deciding whether to change to 18" wheels to soften the ride and to save on the tyres cuz next tyre change is up ahead. 18' can change to 50mm thick tyres for better ride as the 19" is hard.
my friend had same unit, driven to 200,000km d. no problem at all, just usual wear and tear parts. (like belt tensioner, lower arm making sound that type)

only complain is the noise level is high, i've done some soundproofing on wheel arch and front floor to lower road noise. right now more towards engine noise. see when i'm free will soundproof the doors, floor and rear boot.

this car is a high spirited driver experience car, not like the unker camry/accord/teana feeling.
plus it's a 5star european NCAP rating. very safe

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post Oct 17 2018, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Oct 11 2018, 11:03 AM)
19 inch tyre are expensive, 17 is cheap but for a powerful car like Mazda 6, I suggest going for 18, you would maintain the grip and traction and stability , also aesthetics.

The 2013 Mazda 6 2.5L was one of the cars I considered, having tested the 2018. It has the best drive compared to Accord and Camry, giving the closest European build feel.
Yes, the 2nd hand resale value is not as good as the other 2 but thats to the used car buyer advantage.
I believe with on time maintenance and regular driving, the car would not give much problem. Wear and tear parts are parts and parcel of getting a used car, so set your expectations and budget accordingly.
Otherwise, you may need to fork out more for a more recent model with warranty still active.
Lastly, avoid used car dealer, shop patiently and wait for a low mileage with full service records from a direct seller.
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i've checked with JDM chop shop, they hardly keep this model because very little problem.
infact i've checked with mechanics and they also say this car no problem

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post Oct 21 2018, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(incredibless @ Oct 21 2018, 10:39 AM)
Wow. Impressed with your friend's unit skyactiv already 200,000km d. Just curious, a few questions want to ask you.

1. how about the automatic transmission? Still works as good?
2. How frequently do you change the ATF Fluid? [Recently SC mentioned that the oil is lifetime and not allow to change as it will damage the gearbox.] So any idea on
    this?
3. Do you clean the valves? Since the skyactiv is direct injection which suffers carbon build up over the time. [Looking for walnut blasting in  Msia seems no one is doing it]

I am owning the skyactiv unit and hope to keep the car for long time. Thus want to try my best to maintain it.
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1. working great
2. 30-40,000km i think, must change la, now manufacturer getting greedy. mechanical parts will last longer if the lubrication is clean
3. nope, havent clean valves. but i'm considering doing SeaFoam on it at the moment
it's sprayed into intake manifold to burn carbon deposits in engine block. i've done it on my old car with 190,000km and when change the engine oil, WALAO the oil was literally like BLACK INK darkness. can get it at AceHardware @ RM 58
if want to do must do it right before service oil to flush out all the dirty things.



watch this video where he rejuvenate his old engine with seafoam and LucasOil additive




i've read that all direct injection cars will get the dirty valves as it's by design the back of the valve will get dirty.
but that wouldnt affect performance so much. walnut valve cleaning is in my to do list too.
saw on FB got ppl doing it. find in FB

my tuner friend told me that for SkyActive model must take care of the engine oil, will cause vvti problems if engine oil not taken care well. perhaps it's better to shorten service interval to 7,000km instead of 10,000km ??

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post Oct 21 2018, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 19 2018, 11:10 AM)
Does the regular service guide on your Mazda include aircon maintenance like flushing the oil and the gas? If not then that's where the problem is, coz most people neglect doing aircon maintenance until its too late. It's better to do aircon service every 40k km. I just did on all of my 3 cars for a total cost of just rm220, surely better than risking thousands of rm repair work like yours.
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whats that AC service called flushing oil and gas ??
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post Oct 21 2018, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 19 2018, 10:42 PM)
Well normally they should have a machine to do that. If you never service then surely it will get spoiled because the compressor is just like a small engine with small pistons inside that requires oil to work properly. That oil surely also will have its lifetime. So not servicing or changing that oil is like never changing oil on your car too, definitely will spoil sooner and you'd need to fork out thousands to repair your aircon system. I'd rather spend rm60-80 every 40k km to maintain it in good condition rather than spend thousands later. Anyway for mine, I think the workshop did a good job at a very reasonable price. After service, the aircon of all 3 cars immediately feel colder until can fog up the window.  By doing this I never have any aircon issue/compressor spoiled during ownership of various cars for the last 20+ years. The last time I had to replace my compressor was in the early 90s when I was like most people, before I knew that such maintenance is necessary.
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nvm, got it. thanks

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Oct 21 2018, 11:48 AM)
Means you just sold it this year? What car did you upgrade to?
Yours is pre SkyActive model. Maybe that's reason. I think current gen not as hard to find.
LOL My ex-Proton Persona never service air cond except the filter. It never gave me issue for 6.5 years.  sweat.gif
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If not mistaken, Mazda opened their spare parts distribution centre in Thailand.

Can get parts cheaper from there cuz they are SEA distribution centre
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QUOTE(incredibless @ Oct 21 2018, 03:22 PM)
Thank you so much for your quick information. Really good. What is ur mileage currently?

Wow change at 7,000km? Currently im out of warranty and using Mobil 1 extended performance 5w30 and maintain 10k oil change. So far so good la mileage 80k d
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86k.

get ur car tuned, i-stop turn off.
u'll love the throttle response, the current programming is very dumb, around 70kmh already 6th gear. no power at all
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 21 2018, 07:43 PM)
Mind to share the tuner shop? Afraid go to non experience tuner.
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PM me. I give u his contact.

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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Oct 21 2018, 08:48 PM)
Does fuel consumption increase after tuning as I understand Mazda purposely tune the gearbox to be "dumb" so to save more fuel.?
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im a heavy footer so i cant comment on that.
my friends car can go 650-700km on single tank (RPM never goes beyond 3500). mine goes 500km cuz i like to overtake (sometimes go 140kmh, or maybe cuz use semi-syn oil)

overall if u can tolerate the normal slow pick up, then no need tune i guess.
but if your driving method is floor down a bit to skip the turtle pick up, then go for ECU remap.
yep Mazda purposely tune the gearbox to be below 1500rpm.
the ECU remap also remove the engine jitter when in traffic jam, can off i-stop, speed autolock (going above 20kmh)

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 21 2018, 11:56 PM)
I think just do the walnut blast, no need to do that seafoam anymore.
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u did before ah ??
what effect does cleaning the back of the valve can do ??


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post Oct 22 2018, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 22 2018, 11:35 AM)
Not yet but I know that should clean the valves perfectly. Effect is depending on how bad the carbon build up already. If bad then your car power and fuel efficiency should be more improved because there'll be more air that can flow inside like new again.
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Alright, if you got find good contact pls share.

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QUOTE(incredibless @ Oct 22 2018, 04:33 PM)
share with me as well if able to find a person able to do walnut blasting. Found one but only does continental cars specifically. Japs no layan. :-(
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i found this, never visit them before. they got walnut shell blasting, EGR cleaning services as well.
looks like they service a lot of mazda 6 and cx5

let me know if u done it ya, thanks


https://www.facebook.com/carproautoservices...hU5aTFw&fref=nf


can do these maintenance if reaching 100,000km
1. AC compressor service
2. engine decarbonizing + intake valve + EGR valve (do all these the car feels like new d, clear piston, exhaust, intake)
3. transmission filter FZ0121500, strainer they called it
4. engine mounting
5. spark plugs (if not mistaken is rated at 80,000km)

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post Oct 22 2018, 09:07 PM

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injection valve cleaning without walnut blasting method......

near to 40,000km already super dirty




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QUOTE(incredibless @ Oct 22 2018, 09:33 PM)
I see. Did a call to them and they do offer walnut blasting. They even did piston decarbonizing. Saw their fb that they did quite alot mazda 6. Im planning to bring my car for walnut blast next up 90,000km. Perhaps change atf filter as well and spark plug change. Will let you know the results. Perhaps you may wana go together? Hahaha
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remember do ECU remap after nice service.
u will feel like driving different car. step a bit it's already 100+, no more sluggish feeling anymore.
just now on NKVE behind a beemer was thinking why he's going so slow. see my meter it's already 140+kmh. dint realize it until see meter

the ATF filter need to change as usually when it's due warranty is long over d.
outside mechanics might dont know service interval as it's not done so frequent (80,000km is 3-4years)

let me know when you're going brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(incredibless @ Oct 22 2018, 09:33 PM)
I see. Did a call to them and they do offer walnut blasting. They even did piston decarbonizing. Saw their fb that they did quite alot mazda 6. Im planning to bring my car for walnut blast next up 90,000km. Perhaps change atf filter as well and spark plug change. Will let you know the results after done. Do let me know as well if you done it first.
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consulted my friend (the one with 200,000km on it) what thing he use to service the car cuz his one tank can go 700km. mine only 550km.

so conclusion is a lot of things (my engine should be super dirty with oil deposits, so the whole car is not responsive, and not so fuel efficient)
this service interval i switched to Liqui Moly full synthetic + engine flush + additive (to reduce friction)

this is what i did with it, first spray Seafoam valve cleaner into intake and rev everything to clear valve.
then drive to workshop to ask them do engine flushing.

OLD engine oil (7000km) after adding flush and running it for 10minutes. like KOPI-O
user posted image


then because i watched some videos that do flushing on cars that never done it before (run 100,000km never flush) they had to flush - drain - add new cheapo oil to run 2nd round (run 10-15min) then drain. THEN only add in LIQUI MOLY.
Basically DRAIN THE OIL TWICE if not the new oil added will be instantly dirty !!

this is the sacrificial cheapo 4L engine oil (new engine oil just run for 10min) that i added in after draining the oil.
pour new oil in immediately turn dark, dirty like teh O.
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after that add in LIQUI MOLY 5w/30 and additive.
now the car is very responsive, can always feel the acceleration even step on the pedal a bit !!!!!

Steps
1. seafoam clean intake valve
2. pour in engine flush and run for a while
3. drain 3month old oil
4. pour in new sacrificial engine oil and run for 10min
5. drain 15min new oil
6. pour in new LIQUI MOLY oil and additive (MOS2), change oil filter.

so much better response. step a bit power immediately come

Many types of cleaning can do. Fuel additive, intake valve, engine oil additive (these are without opening engine top cover)

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QUOTE(barca96 @ Jul 11 2020, 12:30 PM)
excellent info.
thanks for sharing
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if got budget just do walnut blasting + engine flush and add oil catch can.

 

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