Tony Pua's š„š„š„ response to Gamuda, and their whining 1st kelas engineers
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 Oct 10 2018, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(ycs @ Oct 10 2018, 01:15 PM) is it the TBM's is about 39% inside the tunnel? TBM Is not really unique, it been around for a least a hundred years. Everywhere in the world that needs to build underground train uses this technique.i thought TBM is a specialised and unique machine, no one else will have?  |
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Oct 10 2018, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(ycs @ Oct 10 2018, 01:22 PM) what i mean, its unique to that project in terms of its specs, diameter, etc Well, those that will be tendering the project definitely have a way of procuring it. I donāt really think the technology is a big issue here. other companies have identical TBM's to takeover the job? I think the issue is if the cost saving to cover the retendering/delay/compensation cost is justifiable, and the governent should be transparent about this or it be another scandal/tongkat/cronies issue again. This post has been edited by Botak__: Oct 10 2018, 01:44 PM |
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Oct 10 2018, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 10 2018, 02:15 PM) pls explain this Contractors donāt have to share information about their cost unless it is specified in the contract.Should we instead question why MMC Gamuda had initially agreed to, but subsequently refused to share costing data with the independent consulting engineer to justify its cost, claiming ātrade secretsā? If the MOF not happy about the price half way, they can terminated the contract but prepare for litigation with gamuda mmc JV. The problem seems like the mof thinks that the cost too high and wanted to ānegotiateā the contract again. Anyone knows what contract they used for project? This post has been edited by Botak__: Oct 10 2018, 02:33 PM |
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Oct 10 2018, 02:36 PM
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Why does everyone claims that minconsult Is not competent to advice the MOF on this matter? I believe not every job they had handle needs to put on their website. Is there a report of what they had comment?
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Oct 10 2018, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Oct 10 2018, 02:46 PM) Why didn't they get consultant from Singapore, Hong Kong London china Mrt 2 consultant is Arup. A few HK engineers is behind this works. Anyhow, i am still not convince that MOF is stupid enough to overlook that minconsult does not have the expertise and just bullshiting, or this whole thing is a political maneuver to get the contractor attention to renegotiate the contract.They expert in building underground railway APA ini minonsultant |
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Oct 10 2018, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(weyyt @ Oct 10 2018, 03:01 PM) Actually, Gamuda ald refuted their report. Even MRTC themselves did. Source pls, interested to know |
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Oct 10 2018, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(darkdkay @ Oct 10 2018, 03:14 PM) Gamuda need to demobilize & mobilize, legal issues and so on... Some people will be out of job, project duration will drag around 1 year, and gov need to fork out money to maintain the abandoned site, and other things not mentioned... If gamuda get the job back again at a lower price, its a good thing, right?So say Gamuda got the job back:- 1- Gamuda got compensation 2- Additional preliminary cost (mobilization, etc) 3- People got back their job To sum up, will terminating and retendering be cost saving in the OVERALL? This will take time since need to settle legal issues such as compensation amounts and so on... I doubt the āGamuda need to demobilize & mobilize, legal issues and so on... Some people will be out of job, project duration will drag around 1 year, and gov need to fork out money to maintain the abandoned site, and other things not mentioned...ā is gonna cost more then RM1b |
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Oct 10 2018, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(Proton2.0 @ Oct 10 2018, 03:53 PM) Read the threas again. They ARE inexperienced. But they actually started the feasibility studies on the MRT SSP line since 2010. Too quick to judge that they are incompetent? Of course they are still less experienced in term of underground works compare to the big arup arcadis aecom. But i think shouldnt judge them by their record.http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/stud...osal-out-3-mths |
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Oct 10 2018, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 10 2018, 04:13 PM) So the question is, is Gamuda right or the consultant right? This is not a cost plus contract, the contractor does not need to relieve their cost. Even if they profit margin is 300%, once their tender is accepted, the client is obligate to pay the contract that amount once completed.For this we have to look at past projects and their cost. Does Gamuda have a history of inflating their project cost and have a history of cost overrun ? If yes, then Gamuda cannot be trusted in this situation. Can anyone dig up their past projects and their cost. Fyi, this work package is a design and build lumpsum contract, therefore it is expected that the risk contingency amount allocated by the contractor will be high. |
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