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post Oct 10 2018, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(Orzie @ Oct 9 2018, 09:01 PM)
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Might as well ask the gov officials to pakai Grab, can save lots of money on transportation too
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:19 AM

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Mrt area sure jam like hell...one feeder bus to be replaced with 30 cars.

And i dont think there is enough drivers too coz half will probably quit next year due to stricter regulations.Plenty of grabshare to/from lrt incoming for remaining drivers (nightmare)

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post Oct 10 2018, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(Elon Musk @ Oct 10 2018, 01:31 AM)
Are there that many GRAB drivers to fulfill the demand of users though? Imagine one taman got 500 requests. Got so many GRAB?
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high demand low supply.. that the answer...:-)
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post Oct 10 2018, 07:56 AM

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Just reintroduce Bas Mini back. Let a few companies run the same line. They can fight for customers like it used to be.

More chance to gesel2 summore.
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:24 AM

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later we'll see grab drivers camping at mrt stations.



just like taxi drivers LMAO
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:31 AM

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This seems like a half baked idea pushed onto Grab. I hope they say no...
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:32 AM

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if grab fare is cheap enough like feeder bus.. why not
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post Oct 10 2018, 08:34 AM

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post Oct 10 2018, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Oct 10 2018, 06:24 AM)
While innovation is great, sometimes a solution becomes the drfault solution because its the best one thus far.

For most of early working life, i did rely on the trains, feeder buses and taxis most days of the week. As far as i saw, there were long queues for both buses and cabs. Making the queue for buses disappear and replacing it with what is essentially the new version of cabs just makes me imagine 30, 40 people at the station simultaneously trying to book a ride.

Of course, thats assuming the rider has a phone that can run the app. I have no idea whats the solution if the rider is a bit on the poor side and only has a less-smart phone.
The pursuit for cutting costs is good, but that shouldnt excuse the need for logic or accountability.

Its like saying youre going to sell the fourth wheel of your car. "There's three more wheels," is the excuse. Sure itd raise some money, but in the end you lose out more because it just makes the entire car useless. The proposed solution created more problems than it solved.

The concern here is that this may cause the same scenario. Buses during peak hours are already packed and often late - introducing another random element in that you dont know whtehr theres a grad driver around is one such additional problem.

Plus, why just deal wjth grab - theres a few other hailing services, and of course, taxi drivers. Im pretty sure this last group is going to make some noise of the govt decides to basically subsidise their competitors at the last place taxis seem to operate.

Vans are a good idea, but again, reliability. Having prasarana replace its less busy routes (or less busy times of the day) with vans might be valid.
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I think you're confusing full bus service and feeder bus.

Those rapidkl bus can be considered full bus service that goes to stops further away from any rail station, some start from Klang and goes all the way to KL. These may get packed during peak hours, and wherever possible, i think they should be double decker buses to maximise capacity. Still huge money pit and as i see it, Prasarana wanna minimise bus service where there's rail coverage so they need to expand more rail network eg with LRT3, they can stop Klang-KL bus route and instead switch to provide feeder bus for Klang people to go KL and vice versa. But wherever no rail coverage, bus service will have to maintain.

Feeder bus are just local bus service to ferry people from their home to nearest LRT/MRT station. Why need full size Volvo, Scania bus for this? Capacity needed is much smaller, vans may have sufficed.

Tony Pua talks about Grab, but the final on the ground operations are to be handled by Anthony Loke, APAD and Prasarana, pretty sure taxi and other hail riding app will be invited to create competition and choice for consumers.
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post Oct 10 2018, 09:44 AM

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Everyday complain no money, but end up propose this idea to cost government more money, what type of stupid suggestion is this.

The cost to maintain bus vs cost to subsidize grab, of course i agree for cost to maintain bus, at least coverage is wider and target for everyone. Whereby grab only target limited crowd, later u will see a lot of people abuse this promo code for sure.


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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Oct 10 2018, 08:43 AM)
I think you're confusing full bus service and feeder bus.

Those rapidkl bus can be considered full bus service that goes to stops further away from any rail station, some start from Klang and goes all the way to KL. These may get packed during peak hours, and wherever possible, i think they should be double decker buses to maximise capacity. Still huge money pit and as i see it, Prasarana wanna minimise bus service where there's rail coverage so they need to expand more rail network eg with LRT3, they can stop Klang-KL bus route and instead switch to provide feeder bus for Klang people to go KL and vice versa. But wherever no rail coverage, bus service will have to maintain.

Feeder bus are just local bus service to ferry people from their home to nearest LRT/MRT station. Why need full size Volvo, Scania bus for this? Capacity needed is much smaller, vans may have sufficed.

Tony Pua talks about Grab, but the final on the ground operations are to be handled by Anthony Loke, APAD and Prasarana, pretty sure taxi and other hail riding app will be invited to create competition and choice for consumers.
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Thats predicated on the basis that a reliable system is necessary to maximise the use of the lrt/mrt itself. I think the main issue would be not to burden the people who could least afford it, and to not reduce the efficacy of some other moving part by tweaking this or that.

But i agree with your earlier suggestion to optimise routes. Less utilised areas would be better served by smaller vehicles.
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post Oct 10 2018, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Oct 10 2018, 10:05 AM)
Thats predicated on the basis that a reliable system is necessary to maximise the use of the lrt/mrt itself. I think the main issue would be not to burden the people who could least afford it, and to not reduce the efficacy of some other moving part by tweaking this or that.

But i agree with your earlier suggestion to optimise routes. Less utilised areas would be better served by smaller vehicles.
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Time is a factor. The current feeder buses are too big to be efficient. If you use feeder bus, the waiting time will be much more longer. A more viable option is copy HK minibus which is slightly bigger than a van for shorter distance travel into housing estates.
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QUOTE(ganz @ Oct 10 2018, 08:32 AM)
if grab fare is cheap enough like feeder bus.. why not
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later jam giler dun complain laugh.gif
1 ppl car..... vs 1 bus 20 ppl
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post Oct 10 2018, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Oct 10 2018, 11:02 AM)
later jam giler dun complain laugh.gif
1 ppl car..... vs 1 bus 20 ppl
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Oct 10 2018, 10:05 AM)
Thats predicated on the basis that a reliable system is necessary to maximise the use of the lrt/mrt itself. I think the main issue would be not to burden the people who could least afford it, and to not reduce the efficacy of some other moving part by tweaking this or that.

But i agree with your earlier suggestion to optimise routes. Less utilised areas would be better served by smaller vehicles.
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It would depend on what kinda deal they're making with grab and others.

As i said from the start, i don't see why need full size bus just to provide local routes from residential areas to nearest rail stations. Grossly overkill to me.

But ultimately, the issue of limited funding is the main crux here. Sadly something has to give. Continue current feeder bus service, govt bleeds hard. Tighten the belt, commuters will have to fork out more for grab instead, unless they intro some scheme eg where users pay rm2 max, any higher, the driver can claim from grab, grab claim from govt, i dunno.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Oct 10 2018, 11:02 AM)
later jam giler dun complain laugh.gif
1 ppl car..... vs 1 bus 20 ppl
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Got grab share ma. They can kumpul 4 passengers per car n normally travelling distances within taman area is not too far. Better than currently lots of grab car driver complaining driving in the city with long pick up distance n jam but with a 5-6 fares.

If profitable. There will be grab cars available n it also can give the people who live around taman to have a part time job ferrying people to fro the stations.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Oct 9 2018, 09:04 PM)
they should make more covered side walks, large enough that plenty of people can use them without crowding issues, no puddles, and with good CCTV and patrolmen for security

If I can think of this, why can't Tony Pua?
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post Oct 12 2018, 08:32 AM

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If I pay RM 1 to my house to MRT station in feeder bus 10km, how much it will cost for GRAB 10km? for sure the minimum fare for grab right?

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