Ic. But CGnat does it cause a lot of impact for day to day usage?

I know if one needs to download things from ‘friendly’ sources will be affected. Other than that? Any major impact?

Affecting users where they need to have remote access from outside via port forwarding, usually gamers, surveillance... In terms of security, it has further jeopardized the network security.

But nowadays surveillance camera is mostly accessing via cloud and app so it should still be able to access rite?

Not to use, only for some tests.

Yes..as long as it doesn't require any port forwarding...but in network security wise, it's definitely a drawback.

But why security is a prob? I tot it is NAT so it should be more secure since the ip is ‘hidden’?

Wtf. Time suddenly down for no reason. Then I restart the modem and my wifi mesh then it is back online again.

You forget the fact that whatever cloud you’re connecting to has access to your so called “hidden” NVR behind CGNAT

You’re at their mercy if they have any security issues or leaks with the server that they’re traversing your data from and to

In the event of a burglary, if the theft destroys your NVR(source of recording) on the way out your evidences goes with it.

IP-Cams have 2 modes, paid cloud hosted recording and localized recording with its own memory storage. This makes all your IP-Cam decentralized at home more ideally safe.

You can hide several of them scattered in your house from plain eye sight and the thief who breaks in would have to find every single one of them to destroy the evidence.

If they're on cloud recording live, even if the physical cam is destroyed you're still safe.

NVRs which are centralized is way more susceptible for burglars to attack only a single point and everything that is linked to it is gone.

My point still stands, if the cloud data gets leaked, what are you as an end user is supposed to do?

Other than complaining, your data is already leaked out there, footage of your house is out there.

And cloud, how are they able to offer the user cloud storage? By charging, and what quality can they store? 2MP and no more higher, if someone has a 4 or even 8MP camera, then how? Do this cycle for a few months or even years, and you can even out the cost with just having another onsite backup thats discreet.

If a thief deliberately targets someone's NVR after a break in, do you think that target is like a random residence in a random taman? That sounds more like an organized crime targeting someone high profile. Hide it/put it somewhere hidden from plain sight, dont tell me if you keep your recorder in a random hidden drawer somewhere and the thief is still able to find it after rummaging through all of the stuff.

What brand of cloud? DH/Hik, both Chinese brand. Not saying that they are not good for their price, but considering they're ultimately chinese owned entity, and they have had security issues in the past, Id rathef just buy into their hardware and not touch any of their cloud solutions

Any news about going back to normal ?

I see no improvement yet.

They said fixing will 2-3 weeks minimum.
2 weeks from incident would be over this coming Friday….

Anyway you dont see many news about this for some reason.
I think as long as FB, IG etc work because of their mirrored CDN; the bigger part of internet users wont complain… so lets see and hope it gets fixed within the estimated timeframe.

This post has been edited by rezzorix: May 1 2024, 09:12 AM

ic....

anyone else on 200Mbps can share that if u are on CGNAT or on public IP?
if u are on public IP, how did u manage to get it?

Yes.

I have a NAS on 24/7 which can record from multiple IP cameras simultaneously, either to the NAS itself or to the cloud.

However I still prefer to let Xiaomi Cloud 'Mi home app for home automation' (comes with Xiaomi IP cameras) do the job as it is very easy.
The notification on mobile and its settings can be tweak to your requirement.

At its most sensitive level, it can detect a small insect flying past and notify you within seconds but with six cameras, 3 overseas and 3 in Johor, it quite a tasks to monitor.
The free recordings is upto one month for every camera. The recordings can be downloaded if you get notifications. The recorded clips (mentioning persons recorded) with time stamped can then be downloaded. It is convenient and one can make a polis report immediately wherever you are.

Tell me what I already don't know about public IP-cams already being compromised even since the Streamyx days some 20over years already? Back then everyone already had public IPs assigned automatically without needing to beg.

I place my cams strategically facing the main road, hallways and along the corridors hidden to prevent intruders or burglars. Not in private places such as my bedrooms or toilets to do live onlyfan sessions.

Hotels, business premises all do that that's why you get live streams from EarthCam from all over the world to give you live updates of weather and temperature reports.

We already have 8MP 4k IP Cams on the cheap under RM300 now selling on online shopping platforms. Ready for Ai face recognition to deploy company daily attendance system.





I'm just suggesting the worst scenario or possible cases that might happen when a burglary happens.

That is why smart planning for strategic hidden surveillance cams is very important when you do your buildouts. A knowledgeable thief will immediately do a power cut by switching off the main power switch at your home then search for the DVR to destroy before they search out your home to loot.

Well hidden cloud based IP cams which are decentralized and well hidden around your home stand a better chance to deter such cases. They have independent video storage on the device itself and can do remote cloud recording just in case the thief destroys your centralized NVR. Also if you place them well hidden in many spots inside your premise, the thief will have to search them one by one to disable them.

No solution is full proof, tell me what does your traditional cam offer to overcome all these by going all the way with to obtain public IP?
Modern day cams no longer need public IPs because vendors have now figured out a way to bundle Dynamic DNS features into their cams/NVRs.

So it's no longer an issue.

It's just a gimmick scheme to force their subscribers to take up higher plans for more revenues.

We all know CGNAT provides an additional layer of protection and if routed through IPv6 via tunnelling it'll take benefits of lower latency and security that IPv6 enjoys like Japan which already fully phased out IPv4 forcing anyone who still wants IPv4 to do MAP-E or IPv4 over IPv6 tunnelling.

They have already phased IPv4 and PPPoE out completely for all their newer plans since 2014 close to 10 years already.All except some very old legacy plans used in rural areas/essential services for senior citizens.

Why our local ISPs are reluctant to promote use of full IPv6 adoption?

They know it's going to destroy their fixed/static IP markets, and also public IPs can generate extra income for them by forcing their customers to adopt pricier plans or pay extra to be eligible for public IPs.

Want to experience first hand how IPoE is implemented? Look no further it's already been in our country for some time. Look at how much more efficient 5G/4G LTE Advanced authenticates when you connect? That's how simple IPoE works, no need extra PPPoE server authentication and manual passwords to enter in your settings. Configure automatic assignment/IP handouts and that's it.

Why the talk about going wireless even with access? Besides cutting your main TNB electricity switch during burglary, the thief can also cut off your home's fiber line and you're down another level.

That way what's the point of having wired access and a centralized surveillance system. Cut off its network and power supply, it's just as good as useless.

This post has been edited by petpenyubobo: May 1 2024, 12:49 PM

so based on what u mentioned, it is still fine to go for 200Mbps at cheaper price but on CGNAT?

I was previously a Maxis Home Fibre user for more than 5 years. Towards the end of my subscription(last few months) I gave in paying extra RM10 to continue using the public IP subscription.

Made the brave move to jump to 5G using CGNAT and never looked back. All my IP-cams still function well after the migration.

Most IP cam softwares nowadays provide free dynamic DNS(DyDNS) value added services for their customers already.

ic... ya this is what i believe so as well....

i had enjoyed one month free + 6 months promo price of rm99 (until june 2024). so if i switch to rm99 200Mbps plan, also nothing lugi... i can switch back to 600Mbps if i really need public ip after that... since the price to pay will be the same at rm139 after 6 months promo price...

i target to save cost instead..
rm40 saving per month...

my usage for fibre broadband at home is minimum seriously... only web surfing, video streaming, playing mobile game, hardly download much things nowadays...

This post has been edited by westlife: May 1 2024, 03:12 PM

"screw" them