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post Apr 25 2024, 12:01 PM

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Response from TIME through MCMC:

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Based on the update from our tech support, currently, we are experiencing a latency issue that is impacting our network performance.
This is due to a fault in the submarine cable, which is a critical component of our international data transmission infrastructure.
Our technical team is actively working with international partners to address this problem.

We anticipate that the repair work on the submarine cable will take approximately 2-3 weeks to complete.
During this period, you may notice slower than usual internet speeds or intermittent connectivity issues.
We appreciate your patience and understanding as we work to resolve this issue as quickly as possible.
Any inconvenience caused is much regretted.

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2-3 weeks. Should at least offer some kind of compensation.
Anyway... lets see.

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post Apr 25 2024, 12:35 PM

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Hi,

I recently purchased a HG8145X6 from other seller. And I would like to connect directly to the internet using ONLY HG8145X6.

My current working method is connect HG8145X6 as AP mode to the BTU modem, which it's the traditional way.


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I want to use only the HG8145X6 to connect to the internet.
I'm able to log in to the "superadmin" page, changed to GPON, and setup my PPPoE account

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However, I'm not able to connect to the internet. The PON light keeps blinking in green.
The router showing these:

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Does anyone know what setting I've done it wrongly?
Kindly advice. Thanks!
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post Apr 25 2024, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(bsb85my @ Apr 25 2024, 12:35 PM)

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you need to change the gpon password/SN to match your old one

on the new one it's under
Advanced -> System Management -> ONT Authentication

login to old one and find that and copy the password and SN from old one to here
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QUOTE(rezzorix @ Apr 25 2024, 12:01 PM)
Response from TIME through MCMC:
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2-3 weeks. Should at least offer some kind of compensation.
Anyway... lets see.
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Its really bad, I ended up VPN back to my Maxis fiber at home
Effectively cut the connection speed from 600Mbps to 100Mbps

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post Apr 26 2024, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(rezzorix @ Apr 25 2024, 12:01 PM)
Response from TIME through MCMC:
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2-3 weeks. Should at least offer some kind of compensation.
Anyway... lets see.
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There seems to be something fishy and hidden behind this EU connection takedown in this region. A simple VPN connection to India/UAE/Israel will resolve the route issue if it was just a single SEA-WE-ME 5 cable breakdown.

There are so many undersea cables which links SG and Penang directly to India/Middle East. Many of them having TIME/TM as consortium members.

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But the weird thing is that many VPN providers have taken down their India physical servers and replaced them with virtualized servers which are secretly based somewhere else.

The public continues to hear no news about any progress and source to this issue.

Is there something the public is not being told? Cyber terrorism involved, clampdown on EU connectivity for security fortification?

Just because of a single submarine cable being down?

There seems to be no issue of EU connectivity with India and the Middle East. I don't really believe it's just because of 1 submariner cable getting severed between Malaysia/SG. We have landings into Penang as well.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 26 2024, 06:21 PM)
But the weird thing is that many VPN providers have taken down their India physical servers and replaced them with virtualized servers which are secretly based somewhere else.
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Basically, India didn't outright ban VPNs but made it so that anyone who wants to operate there must log all the information

Which is the opposite of what a VPN service typically offers

https://web.archive.org/web/20221202192813/...collection-law/

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post Apr 26 2024, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Apr 21 2024, 10:12 PM)
The latest EU routing issue is due to SMW5 submarine cable cut.

Just did a quick test with several EU host, TIME is consistently 400ms++ while TM is still around 300ms++.

Lucky for TM, they are one of the partners for SMW4, it's still an older slower cable but they got the priority.

TIME is currently routing through SG for their EU connectity or via NTT backup link through USA.
Just shut it off when not using it. Else it'll prevent your phone from deep sleep like all VPN apps.
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Not just NTT, Cogent Asia, HE, Sparkle SEABONE, Singtel all major regional Tier-1 ISPs are also affected.

There's something fishy when India/Middle East servers are locking us out with high pings but their connectivity to EU is unaffected.

It can't be just because of 1 undersea cable broken, all EU links latency became so bad that even HK which is further than us from EU is enjoying lower latency than us.

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Apr 26 2024, 06:50 PM)
Basically, India didn't outright ban VPNs but made it so that anyone who wants to operate there must log all the information

Which is the opposite of what a VPN service typically offers

https://web.archive.org/web/20221202192813/...collection-law/

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Latency for no reason from Malaysia also has increased considerably. Doesn't make sense with 300ms just across the Indian Ocean?

We have many other major undersea cables that links us to India/Middle East besides SE-WE-ME 5, is there something hidden that we public aren't aware?
Cyber warfare determent?

So coincident that India recently clamped down on physical VPN servers operating in their country?
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post Apr 26 2024, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 26 2024, 07:05 PM)
Latency for no reason from Malaysia also has increased considerably. Doesn't make sense with 300ms just across the Indian Ocean?

We have many other major undersea cables that links us to India/Middle East besides SE-WE-ME 5, is there something hidden that we public aren't aware?
Cyber warfare determent?

So coincident that India recently clamped down on physical VPN servers operating in their country?
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That news article is from 2022... That's not "recently"
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post Apr 26 2024, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Apr 26 2024, 07:28 PM)
That news article is from 2022... That's not "recently"
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Many major VPN providers still offered physical servers from India earlier this year before Raya/CNY. I was happily using one last time. It was only recent they took them all down just 1-2 months back and turning India a "virtual" location.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 26 2024, 07:00 PM)
Not just NTT, Cogent Asia, HE, Sparkle SEABONE, Singtel all major regional Tier-1 ISPs are also affected.

There's something fishy when India/Middle East servers are locking us out with high pings but their connectivity to EU is unaffected.

It can't be just because of 1 undersea cable broken, all EU links latency became so bad that even HK which is further than us from EU is enjoying lower latency than us.
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That's because you need to factor in the location of the submarine cable damage. SMW5 is cut somewhere in the straight of Malacca. The link from India/Middle East to EU is not affected.

You also need to factor in the capacity of each cable.

SMW5 is 36.6Tbps. The capacity of SMW3 and SMW4 are 4.6Tbps each. Other submarine link from EU to Asia are irrelevant cause they are really slow.

I believe AAE-1 with 40Tbps capacity is still not fully recovered as well. With that, more than 80% of the capacity between EU and Asia is not available.

The next thing you need to consider would be access priority and SLA. Money talks here, the more you are willing to pay, the better access quality you get.

In situations like this, some providers have a guaranteed SLA with the cable operator so they are not that severely affected.

TM is part of the SMW3, SMW4 and SMW5 consortium, TM can reroute their customers through the other cables which they will have guaranteed access. That would explain why Unifi is not that severely affected unlike TIME. It will still be affected cause those are older, slower cables.

As for EU submarine cable, TIME is only part of the AAE-1 which I believe is currently still not fixed. Hence that explains why all my traceroute from TIME to EU is currently routing through Singapore which is probably Singtel and eventually SMW3 and SMW4 as well.

Since TIME is not part of SMW3 or SMW4, it will depends on the agreement of between TIME and the upstream provider for the quality of service. Again, money talk here and in situations like this, most ISPs will prioritize their own customers.

There's really no conspiracy here.
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post Apr 26 2024, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Apr 26 2024, 10:23 PM)
That's because you need to factor in the location of the submarine cable damage. SMW5 is cut somewhere in the straight of Malacca. The link from India/Middle East to EU is not affected.

You also need to factor in the capacity of each cable.

SMW5 is 36.6Tbps. The capacity of SMW3 and SMW4 are 4.6Tbps each. Other submarine link from EU to Asia are irrelevant cause they are really slow.

I believe AAE-1 with 40Tbps capacity is still not fully recovered as well. With that, more than 80% of the capacity between EU and Asia is not available.

The next thing you need to consider would be access priority and SLA. Money talks here, the more you are willing to pay, the better access quality you get.

In situations like this, some providers have a guaranteed SLA with the cable operator so they are not that severely affected.

TM is part of the SMW3, SMW4 and SMW5 consortium, TM can reroute their customers through the other cables which they will have guaranteed access. That would explain why Unifi is not that severely affected unlike TIME. It will still be affected cause those are older, slower cables.

As for EU submarine cable, TIME is only part of the AAE-1 which I believe is currently still not fixed. Hence that explains why all my traceroute from TIME to EU is currently routing through Singapore which is probably Singtel and eventually SMW3 and SMW4 as well.

Since TIME is not part of SMW3 or SMW4, it will depends on the agreement of between TIME and the upstream provider for the quality of service. Again, money talk here and in situations like this, most ISPs will prioritize their own customers.

There's really no conspiracy here.
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It's not just TIME as said. Even if you were to connect to a good Tier-1 SG based VPN now your pings to Europe is so badly affected. Why?

SG doesn't just rely on SMW5 to get to Europe only you know. It is among the world's most important transit hub for submarine cable landing in between Europe and US.

I'm now finding for a good VPN server that has good latency to Europe.Until now I can't seem to find one.

How can just a single submarine cable going down affect the entire ASEAN region?
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 26 2024, 10:31 PM)
It's not just TIME as said. Even if you were to connect to a good Tier-1 SG based VPN now your pings to Europe is so badly affected. Why?

SG doesn't just rely on SMW5 to get to Europe only you know. It is among the world's most important transit hub for submarine cable landing in between Europe and US.

I'm now finding for a good VPN server that has good latency to Europe.Until now I can't seem to find one.

How can just a single submarine cable going down affect the entire ASEAN region?
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Well I already explained in detail in my previous post. You need to consider the capacity of each cable.

AAE-1 and SMW5 are down and they deliver more than 80% of total available capacity from EU to East Asia. What's remaining are heavily congested now, leading to poor connectivity.

Btw, VPN providers always use the cheapest server they can find. Doesn't matter tier-1 or not.

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post Apr 26 2024, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Apr 26 2024, 11:02 PM)
Well I already explained in detail in my previous post. You need to consider the capacity of each cable.

AAE-1 and SMW5 are down and they deliver more than 80% of total available capacity from EU to East Asia. What's remaining are heavily congested now, leading to poor connectivity.

Btw, VPN providers always use the cheapest server they can find. Doesn't matter tier-1 or not.

My private VPN server in SG
Now AAE-1 also down?

I'm using Cogent Singapore, Google, OVH and G-Core Labs Asia, my pings to Europe is still ~400ms now. It' shouldn't right when Singapore has one of the most diverse undersea cable choices to re-route across the world.

I'm suspecting some underhand cartel is going on especially with India. They're refusing even their neighbors like Bangladesh, Myanmar and ASEAN from accessing their land cables into Middle East and Europe for some unknown reasons.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 26 2024, 07:44 PM)
Many major VPN providers still offered physical servers from India earlier this year before Raya/CNY. I was happily using one last time. It was only recent they took them all down just 1-2 months back and turning India a "virtual" location.
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You sure those are physical servers?

https://www.lightreading.com/security/vpn-p...otest-new-rules

Article from 2022.

Proton also removed theirs in 2022.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments...ut_of_india_to/

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Apr 26 2024, 11:02 PM)
Well I already explained in detail in my previous post. You need to consider the capacity of each cable.

AAE-1 and SMW5 are down and they deliver more than 80% of total available capacity from EU to East Asia. What's remaining are heavily congested now, leading to poor connectivity.

Btw, VPN providers always use the cheapest server they can find. Doesn't matter tier-1 or not.

My private VPN server in SG
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TIME Fibre
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N***VPN
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Bro, can share your private VPN server is which provider?
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post Apr 27 2024, 02:05 PM

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Hi all Sifu

I am using powerline adapter to extend wifi coverage for my house. In term of wifi coverage, not much a problem.
But there is a internet speed drop using powerline adapter. The internet speed is dropped to 30mbps - 50mbps at the yellow zone (my internet subscription is 200mbps).
My current setup is: HG8240H5 > EC230-G1 > Powerline adapter

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I plan to upgrade the setup to improve to the internet speed at the yellow area. But i have a tight budget.

1) What is the recommended setup to improve the internet speed at the yellow area?

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2) What is estimated speed drop if using mesh as compared to my current powerline adapter?

3) Do i need to upgrade my current router?

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Just look at the latency results from places in the Far East such as Tokyo, Hangzhou and Shanghai to Europe.

Shanghai/Hangzhou to Amsterdam only 190ms+?

Malu leh for ASEAN region to be close to 400ms.

It's time to reconsider bypassing the troubled Bengal and Middle East war regions and venturing into alternative paths such as the Silk Road, Central Asia and Russia to reach Europe.

Too risky to be overly dependent on those Middle East and India regions to reach Europe who loves to play cartel and war games with the world.

Russia/Central Asia is seen to be a more reliable route to Europe now for Far East Asia and ASEAN region.
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Apr 26 2024, 11:02 PM)
Well I already explained in detail in my previous post. You need to consider the capacity of each cable.

AAE-1 and SMW5 are down and they deliver more than 80% of total available capacity from EU to East Asia. What's remaining are heavily congested now, leading to poor connectivity.
Yup, too risky to be over reliant on the useless India-Middle East war trouble makers.

80% dependent on them to reach Europe? That's a bit far fetch and pose serious risks in the event of war emergencies to trust them totally.

It's time to reconsider the security and risks for over dependence on them to reach Europe with this case as a serious lesson to learn from.

Shanghai/Hangzhou which is way at the Far East also can reach Amsterdam on the other end of Europe under 200ms malu only weh for ASEAN region being played out by both by Middle East and India.

Russia and Central Asia is now proven to be more reliable and dependable as an alternate route.

One example is the RETN TransKZ land based cabling network.

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TEA-Trans East Asia Europe Terrestrial Cable

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QUOTE(whitejack @ Apr 27 2024, 02:05 PM)

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> My current setup is: HG8240H5 > EC230-G1 > Powerline adapter

what powerline adapter are you using?

> 1) What is the recommended setup to improve the internet speed at the yellow area?

1st one, dont even bother with that
2nd, can be considered but, just drop the EC230-G1 and go

HG8240H5 -> Deco M4 -> another unit of Deco M4

but do also consider newer wifi6 routers

> 2) What is estimated speed drop if using mesh as compared to my current powerline adapter?

better, but best if you can run a lan cable between them or use an expensive tri-band mesh

> 3) Do i need to upgrade my current router?

can consider wifi6 router/mesh


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