Malaysian, took A-level then went to Russia for medical degree. Boleh pakai ke tak ?
Can Russian medical grads be trusted ?
Can Russian medical grads be trusted ?
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Oct 5 2018, 12:04 PM, updated 8y ago
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Malaysian, took A-level then went to Russia for medical degree. Boleh pakai ke tak ?
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Oct 5 2018, 12:13 PM
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Oct 5 2018, 12:13 PM
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U don’t know that Russia and Egypt are one of the main destination for medical degree meh?
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Oct 5 2018, 12:14 PM
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Oct 5 2018, 12:17 PM
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Cannot they are indoctrinated by the kgb
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Oct 5 2018, 12:17 PM
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Konechno.
Luchshe vsem. This post has been edited by khairolnizam: Oct 5 2018, 12:18 PM |
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Oct 5 2018, 02:23 PM
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Oct 5 2018, 02:28 PM
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I narrowly escaped studying Medic in Russia. Other doctors used to complain a lot about their colleagues who studied in Russia as less competent. Not sure if it still holds water or not.
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Oct 5 2018, 02:40 PM
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dah for muther russia
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Oct 5 2018, 06:06 PM
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In general yes.
But... Should confirm it's a real university with russian authorities, not fake university. Should confirm with the University that the graduation is real, not fake paper. Should beware that corruption is rife. Some might pass course due to "duit vodka". |
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Oct 5 2018, 06:23 PM
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Let me tell you why I don't trust Russian medical grads
My friend went for 1 semester then came back He said the lectures were in Russian, the textbooks in Russian, the exam in Russian, but he managed to pass the semester exam He doesn't speak Russian |
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Oct 5 2018, 06:24 PM
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Oct 5 2018, 06:24 PM
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Oct 5 2018, 06:26 PM
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Oct 5 2018, 06:26 PM
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I think will kena shun during housemanship ayy
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Oct 5 2018, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 5 2018, 06:23 PM) Let me tell you why I don't trust Russian medical grads Topkek your friend pandai lettewMy friend went for 1 semester then came back He said the lectures were in Russian, the textbooks in Russian, the exam in Russian, but he managed to pass the semester exam He doesn't speak Russian |
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Oct 5 2018, 06:36 PM
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Malaysia also got medical colleges, can trust or not first?
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Oct 5 2018, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Oct 5 2018, 06:36 PM) Depends on which. If u r talking about UM or prestigious privates like IMU, Monash, Penang Medical, they are even better than some lower rank UK Unis. Can't say the same bout some chaplang privates. As for Russian grads Ukraine grads, well, after proper housemanship a small percentage did turn out fine lordgamer3 liked this post
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Oct 5 2018, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(jfleong @ Oct 5 2018, 12:04 PM) Can.the malaysian housemenship program is well equipped to train doctors up to malaysian standards. not every student fortunate enough to study in prestigious U. ive seen competent doctors from russia, indonesia romania ect. ive seen utterly stupid doctors from famous U. |
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Oct 5 2018, 06:59 PM
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Docs is all about passion.. If pandai and study at Oxford but not doc at heart.. Hopeless.. I know average students who are good doctors i.e caring etc
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Oct 5 2018, 07:01 PM
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after grads most wimminz becum doctor fashion and insta famous
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Oct 5 2018, 07:02 PM
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Oct 6 2018, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(azmanadnan @ Oct 5 2018, 06:40 PM) Depends on which. If u r talking about UM or prestigious privates like IMU, Monash, Penang Medical, they are even better than some lower rank UK Unis. Can't say the same bout some chaplang privates. It’s about quality of the grads and not only the place. Know a lot of Royal College of Surgeons’ grads but attitude and skills like shit when doing housemanship or the tudung trainee doctors that use pens to poke patients as harom to touch. As for Russian grads Ukraine grads, well, after proper housemanship a small percentage did turn out fine |
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Oct 6 2018, 10:32 AM
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but got chance to pikat russian amoi
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Oct 6 2018, 10:35 AM
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Oct 6 2018, 10:39 AM
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my fren's anak got 2 principal E in STPM pun jadi loctor.
another one lagi best. after spm, study pre-med 9 months, then proceeded to do her MBBS is also a loctor. you say, merit kah or crazy kah? i can only say kah kah kah. some years ago, our MBBS grads from uni Malaya recognized by UK, now? kah kah kah |
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Oct 6 2018, 10:43 AM
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Oct 6 2018, 10:52 AM
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Cyka blyat
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Oct 6 2018, 10:54 AM
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Still better than uitm grads...
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Oct 6 2018, 10:56 AM
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Oct 6 2018, 11:01 AM
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russian girls good.
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Oct 6 2018, 11:02 AM
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Oct 6 2018, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(Joe Kreutz @ Oct 6 2018, 11:04 AM) No offense to you or your friend. Russia is (was?) cheapBut i heard you only go to russia or czech repub. Etc only because you're not qualified to study medical in malaysia in the first place. Its like if you score badly in your spm you can still go study medic in those countries. If you have money, no matter how bad your results is, you can still take medical course Thats where i think the root of the competency issue That was the main factor for 1 of my friend (the other one, the one who graduate, I not sure Like half price or more But since this is the quality, no choice but to come back and pay like half million RM Competency issue... Let's put it this way, it's Russia, nuff said |
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Oct 6 2018, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 5 2018, 06:23 PM) Let me tell you why I don't trust Russian medical grads wow, care to share the name of the university? my cousin is looking for a uni to learn medic soon, would be great if he avoids a shitty university like thatMy friend went for 1 semester then came back He said the lectures were in Russian, the textbooks in Russian, the exam in Russian, but he managed to pass the semester exam He doesn't speak Russian |
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Oct 6 2018, 11:43 AM
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Oct 6 2018, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Oct 6 2018, 11:28 AM) wow, care to share the name of the university? my cousin is looking for a uni to learn medic soon, would be great if he avoids a shitty university like that Sorry I dunno, didn't askRussian uni IIRC last time this news even made it into newspapers what Cuz Msia was sending JPA scholarship students there |
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Oct 6 2018, 12:00 PM
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If talk about Russia before 1990s, then yes high quality education. It's currently more of a degree mill where money matters most unless you go to a highly reputable university.
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Oct 6 2018, 01:50 PM
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Oct 6 2018, 01:53 PM
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you know what, hospitals in Russia are worse than Malaysia. When these grads go for clinicals or practicals, they are thought to make do with whatever equipment are there. ANyone who survives that will become a good doctor.
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Oct 6 2018, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Oct 6 2018, 09:59 AM) It’s about quality of the grads and not only the place. Know a lot of Royal College of Surgeons’ grads but attitude and skills like shit when doing housemanship or the tudung trainee doctors that use pens to poke patients as harom to touch. true to a certain extend but some unis are worse than others. Example the famous Ukraine one, when I was part of the committee, we had to decide to report it as unsafe as the clinical training was just too poor. I will say Russia is slightly better than Ukraine in that sense, there were some from Ukraine at that time that had never clerked a patient, no basic understanding on usage of stets and totally no idea on basic examination and clerking. Not their fault if the uni itself never provided the platform .From KKM admin side, we have to be clear on this, you have to distinguish between individual problem or systemic uni problem. This post has been edited by azmanadnan: Oct 6 2018, 10:23 PM |
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