Increased 30%????
Driver bising fare ciput le
Grab fare .. increased 30 %, Why ... why ..why ...
Grab fare .. increased 30 %, Why ... why ..why ...
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Oct 3 2018, 11:41 AM
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Increased 30%????
Driver bising fare ciput le |
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Oct 4 2018, 10:11 PM
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Oct 10 2018, 11:38 AM
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i always take grab to/fro lunch nearby.
last time cost RM5, like every single time, there was even RM3/4 before, but let's take RM5 as normal rate. ever since Grab took over Uber, the basic fare for the same distance, same timing has risen to RM7, that's a whooping 40% increase! really, don't BS on the high demand thingy. if i'm alone, i'd rather walk for 15 mins than being sucked by grab. |
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Oct 10 2018, 11:57 AM
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Dont worry, grab will be boikot soon enough just like any other business.
Market will react fast to changes. Reputation once damage will take forever to recover just like Maxis. Good luck, Grab. |
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Oct 10 2018, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 10 2018, 11:38 AM) i always take grab to/fro lunch nearby. can i have the distance for calculation? Now grab is not using shortest route to calculate like in the past.last time cost RM5, like every single time, there was even RM3/4 before, but let's take RM5 as normal rate. ever since Grab took over Uber, the basic fare for the same distance, same timing has risen to RM7, that's a whooping 40% increase! really, don't BS on the high demand thingy. if i'm alone, i'd rather walk for 15 mins than being sucked by grab. And now the incentive on lunch hour has slash until B block, meaning lower subsidize to driver and low amount of driver on the road at that particular time. Ask those driver around with the harsh condition and ill treatment, many has quit. |
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Oct 10 2018, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 10 2018, 11:38 AM) i always take grab to/fro lunch nearby. Welcome 2 monopoly world last time cost RM5, like every single time, there was even RM3/4 before, but let's take RM5 as normal rate. ever since Grab took over Uber, the basic fare for the same distance, same timing has risen to RM7, that's a whooping 40% increase! really, don't BS on the high demand thingy. if i'm alone, i'd rather walk for 15 mins than being sucked by grab. |
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Oct 10 2018, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 10 2018, 12:15 PM) can i have the distance for calculation? Now grab is not using shortest route to calculate like in the past. distance wise is not really far, around 1.1 - 1.2km or so, the last time when i check on google map.And now the incentive on lunch hour has slash until B block, meaning lower subsidize to driver and low amount of driver on the road at that particular time. Ask those driver around with the harsh condition and ill treatment, many has quit. or at night when i take grab home from the nearby LRT station, also cost like 7-8 bucks, 9-10 bucks if near midnight (midnight rate applies?) compare to previous of 5 bucks, takkan the distance between my house and the LRT has widen kan QUOTE(skylinelover @ Oct 10 2018, 01:08 PM) and they say there's no increase in fare. |
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Oct 10 2018, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 10 2018, 05:49 PM) distance wise is not really far, around 1.1 - 1.2km or so, the last time when i check on google map. To be honest a lot driver has quit the market, the supply on driver side has decreasing after so many harsh condition.or at night when i take grab home from the nearby LRT station, also cost like 7-8 bucks, 9-10 bucks if near midnight (midnight rate applies?) compare to previous of 5 bucks, takkan the distance between my house and the LRT has widen kan and they say there's no increase in fare. Or the grab system is trying to troll u with their algorithm, purposely let u cannot find car and jack up price. We as driver do not know what is the truth. |
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Oct 10 2018, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 10 2018, 05:54 PM) To be honest a lot driver has quit the market, the supply on driver side has decreasing after so many harsh condition. pity on the drivers and users. grab sucks man.Or the grab system is trying to troll u with their algorithm, purposely let u cannot find car and jack up price. We as driver do not know what is the truth. hopefully other player(s) can do better then we don't have to rely on just grab. other than MyCar, what are the other available e-hailing app? |
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Oct 10 2018, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 10 2018, 06:15 PM) pity on the drivers and users. grab sucks man. There are a lot actually, MyCar, ezcab, dacsee, frentz, pick n go, Mula, and many more.....but sucks big time as their driver availability gap is too far different from Grabhopefully other player(s) can do better then we don't have to rely on just grab. other than MyCar, what are the other available e-hailing app? |
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Oct 10 2018, 09:23 PM
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That why I said why tony so smart last time become dumb now.
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Oct 11 2018, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 10 2018, 05:49 PM) distance wise is not really far, around 1.1 - 1.2km or so, the last time when i check on google map. rather u call its expensive, or should i say by right, crapcar is mean for those ready to pay and not like airasia, mean everyone can ride ? or at night when i take grab home from the nearby LRT station, also cost like 7-8 bucks, 9-10 bucks if near midnight (midnight rate applies?) compare to previous of 5 bucks, takkan the distance between my house and the LRT has widen kan and they say there's no increase in fare. whether i want to go lrt station, which is ard 2km from my house, i will walk there... i dont want to pay the RM6 fare, because i dont think worth it.. but i never complain the fare is expensive i am part timer crap driver, sometimes i pick up rider going to like 1km trip but fare is RM5... rider forget driver may need to driver 2-3km before pick him... so most of the short trip also ignore by drivers because they think not worth it.. why not support teksi since u are lrt station, give those uncle a chance rather than grab tight tight by crapcar |
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Oct 11 2018, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 10 2018, 09:20 PM) There are a lot actually, MyCar, ezcab, dacsee, frentz, pick n go, Mula, and many more.....but sucks big time as their driver availability gap is too far different from Grab alright, will try them out next time when needed.QUOTE(forever1979 @ Oct 11 2018, 05:26 AM) rather u call its expensive, or should i say by right, crapcar is mean for those ready to pay and not like airasia, mean everyone can ride ? i didnt outright say it is expensive, but rather the increase can be absurb and unjustifiable if there isn't a valid rationale, but guess we have to live with monopoly model.whether i want to go lrt station, which is ard 2km from my house, i will walk there... i dont want to pay the RM6 fare, because i dont think worth it.. but i never complain the fare is expensive i am part timer crap driver, sometimes i pick up rider going to like 1km trip but fare is RM5... rider forget driver may need to driver 2-3km before pick him... so most of the short trip also ignore by drivers because they think not worth it.. why not support teksi since u are lrt station, give those uncle a chance rather than grab tight tight by crapcar i get what you mean but you're missing the main point. the point is about the increase, as per the title too, the increase of 30%, is not about the fare alone. as driver, whether you wanna pick up others is up to the drivers and drivers will have different viewpoint compared to users for sure. so why bother comparing? both have different needs/wants. the drivers will have the choice. the 1km distance is for my lunch place, typically i will walk whenever i'm alone or with dudes, but when you have ladies in heels, they will likely to take grab. just FYI, not all LRT station has taxi service, my area here LRT has got no taxi standby to pick you up, i don't mind paying for the distance of about 4km. in my previous post, the fare is around 7-8 bucks but i'm willing to pay and didnt complain that it is expensive. but the argument point is on the increase for no obvious reason. now can even reach RM12 for the same ride. like what yhtan mentioned previously, the terms imposed by grab which makes the conditions harsh for driver which have pushed many drivers to quit and hence lowering the supply thereby increasing the fare could be the most suspecting reason. |
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Oct 11 2018, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Oct 11 2018, 05:26 AM) rather u call its expensive, or should i say by right, crapcar is mean for those ready to pay and not like airasia, mean everyone can ride ? Haha well said whether i want to go lrt station, which is ard 2km from my house, i will walk there... i dont want to pay the RM6 fare, because i dont think worth it.. but i never complain the fare is expensive i am part timer crap driver, sometimes i pick up rider going to like 1km trip but fare is RM5... rider forget driver may need to driver 2-3km before pick him... so most of the short trip also ignore by drivers because they think not worth it.. why not support teksi since u are lrt station, give those uncle a chance rather than grab tight tight by crapcar |
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Oct 11 2018, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 11 2018, 09:24 AM) alright, will try them out next time when needed. Just a gentle reminder, those ehailing I mentioned other than grab are most likely more expensive than Grab, as they don't have incentive structure like Grab, so in order to attract the drivers are the fare, but very less riders la....coz mostly cheapskates, I know coz I drove for ezcab, if the pings are like Grabbing fukin rich already....i didnt outright say it is expensive, but rather the increase can be absurb and unjustifiable if there isn't a valid rationale, but guess we have to live with monopoly model. i get what you mean but you're missing the main point. the point is about the increase, as per the title too, the increase of 30%, is not about the fare alone. as driver, whether you wanna pick up others is up to the drivers and drivers will have different viewpoint compared to users for sure. so why bother comparing? both have different needs/wants. the drivers will have the choice. the 1km distance is for my lunch place, typically i will walk whenever i'm alone or with dudes, but when you have ladies in heels, they will likely to take grab. just FYI, not all LRT station has taxi service, my area here LRT has got no taxi standby to pick you up, i don't mind paying for the distance of about 4km. in my previous post, the fare is around 7-8 bucks but i'm willing to pay and didnt complain that it is expensive. but the argument point is on the increase for no obvious reason. now can even reach RM12 for the same ride. like what yhtan mentioned previously, the terms imposed by grab which makes the conditions harsh for driver which have pushed many drivers to quit and hence lowering the supply thereby increasing the fare could be the most suspecting reason. |
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Oct 11 2018, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 11 2018, 10:01 AM) Just a gentle reminder, those ehailing I mentioned other than grab are most likely more expensive than Grab, as they don't have incentive structure like Grab, so in order to attract the drivers are the fare, but very less riders la....coz mostly cheapskates, I know coz I drove for ezcab, if the pings are like Grabbing fukin rich already.... alright, noted with thanks mate. |
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Oct 11 2018, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 11 2018, 09:24 AM) alright, will try them out next time when needed. Another thing is back in last year when minimum fare is RM3 and RM4, driver complain the fare was so low because they have to travel 2-3km and travel another 2-3km for the ride. So they increase to RM5 which is quite fair. i didnt outright say it is expensive, but rather the increase can be absurb and unjustifiable if there isn't a valid rationale, but guess we have to live with monopoly model. i get what you mean but you're missing the main point. the point is about the increase, as per the title too, the increase of 30%, is not about the fare alone. as driver, whether you wanna pick up others is up to the drivers and drivers will have different viewpoint compared to users for sure. so why bother comparing? both have different needs/wants. the drivers will have the choice. the 1km distance is for my lunch place, typically i will walk whenever i'm alone or with dudes, but when you have ladies in heels, they will likely to take grab. just FYI, not all LRT station has taxi service, my area here LRT has got no taxi standby to pick you up, i don't mind paying for the distance of about 4km. in my previous post, the fare is around 7-8 bucks but i'm willing to pay and didnt complain that it is expensive. but the argument point is on the increase for no obvious reason. now can even reach RM12 for the same ride. like what yhtan mentioned previously, the terms imposed by grab which makes the conditions harsh for driver which have pushed many drivers to quit and hence lowering the supply thereby increasing the fare could be the most suspecting reason. U know one RM5 trip can easily take about 10-15min depending on traffic condition, some can go until 30min or more. And beside that Grab has been losing money for subsidizing all this short trip by giving incentive to driver, for sure they will find way to reduce it. Driver already took the hit by reducing and now rider feeling the pain. If next year MOT cap the surge at 100%, i expect rider will be even harder to get ride based on current fare calculation. |
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Oct 11 2018, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 11 2018, 09:24 AM) alright, will try them out next time when needed. its not expensive.. it is a sustainable pricing.. earlier when uber was around, they were SUBSIDISING riders.. meaning your fare was partially subsidised by Grab/UBer.. remember they raise so much money for what? to give cheap fare lar.. this cannot last forever, and when Uber exited, Grab no need to throw pricing already lar... they have to make back the money they subsidise earlier and continue to have a sustainable business.. therefore price has gone up .. i didnt outright say it is expensive, but rather the increase can be absurb and unjustifiable if there isn't a valid rationale, but guess we have to live with monopoly model. i get what you mean but you're missing the main point. the point is about the increase, as per the title too, the increase of 30%, is not about the fare alone. as driver, whether you wanna pick up others is up to the drivers and drivers will have different viewpoint compared to users for sure. so why bother comparing? both have different needs/wants. the drivers will have the choice. the 1km distance is for my lunch place, typically i will walk whenever i'm alone or with dudes, but when you have ladies in heels, they will likely to take grab. just FYI, not all LRT station has taxi service, my area here LRT has got no taxi standby to pick you up, i don't mind paying for the distance of about 4km. in my previous post, the fare is around 7-8 bucks but i'm willing to pay and didnt complain that it is expensive. but the argument point is on the increase for no obvious reason. now can even reach RM12 for the same ride. like what yhtan mentioned previously, the terms imposed by grab which makes the conditions harsh for driver which have pushed many drivers to quit and hence lowering the supply thereby increasing the fare could be the most suspecting reason. |
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Oct 11 2018, 10:25 AM
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no harm feeling, but those not willing to pay should get public transport..
kl already so jam cheap fare later no driver... now u see can easily find driver during lunch hour in golden triangle or not... i am one of the those who hardly get crapcar because i dont want to pay.... |
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Oct 11 2018, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(eksk @ Oct 11 2018, 10:14 AM) its not expensive.. it is a sustainable pricing.. earlier when uber was around, they were SUBSIDISING riders.. meaning your fare was partially subsidised by Grab/UBer.. remember they raise so much money for what? to give cheap fare lar.. this cannot last forever, and when Uber exited, Grab no need to throw pricing already lar... they have to make back the money they subsidise earlier and continue to have a sustainable business.. therefore price has gone up .. okla, coming from business point of view, it's not wrong |
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