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Investment Rent or Buy a property, Intellectual talk
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aaron1717
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Sep 27 2018, 12:18 PM
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its all depends on your capabilities... there are alot of ppl who own a house, own a car... and still able to go travel annually... eat good foods, attend gathering and etc... nothing much to discuss about on this... if i have the capability to earn... i would choose to own a house while maintaining my normal lifestyle... otherwise... just rent so you dont need to alter your normal spending habit...
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aaron1717
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Sep 27 2018, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 27 2018, 08:52 PM) Aaron kor how many years you have been renting house before? very short time aje... lol... during first two years college time i guess...
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aaron1717
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Sep 28 2018, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 28 2018, 04:08 AM) Then you can really experience the pros n cons of renting. Rent during srudy and working and dating and having families are not the same. well the experience are not important to me as at now if i have the capabilities to own a house without impacting my normal life also geh... and really have a family now... all the more must get a proper roof over the head liao whether its on the ground or floating in the sky... lol... for me i am open to renting house when I'm single... less burden and more flexibility... can also use those times to learn how to manage your own house and your own life before u get real own house...
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aaron1717
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Sep 28 2018, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(ninetailsnine @ Sep 27 2018, 10:39 PM) If you can buy cash, its ok lah. Just up to you. Owning a house is not only for an economic reason. But if you need to borrow from a bank, it would not well off. Now, I rent a unit. I have calculated how much the owner earns from this unit. Clearly, its annual yield is below 3 per cent. Even fixed deposit is better. I rather buy stocks. I like having properties and can buy anytime, but the current sluggish market will last long. Not a wise choice. thats because your owner made the wrong move in investing in that prop... not everyone are like that one owner... there are investors earning 6% yield and above in renting out their unit every year.... all in all... its the analysis u did before and the decision u made dictates how are you doing now... just like u buy stocks also will study ma... its the same in prop investment...
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aaron1717
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Oct 1 2018, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(charlesWong87 @ Sep 30 2018, 12:15 PM) how many pack u maggi u eat a month, so that u can buy house that early? i bought my first house after 3 years i worked wor.... why need eat maggi... lol... buying a house never really affect my normal lifestyle eventually...
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aaron1717
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Oct 1 2018, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(ahmedjib @ Oct 1 2018, 08:54 AM) first 3 years was an auditor....
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aaron1717
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Oct 1 2018, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(darkmusses @ Oct 1 2018, 09:32 AM) Usually auditor pay is not high unless you are in big 4. Having said that, assuming if you are working around 3 years in such an environment with qualifications, your rank would be around AM or M which the pay can be around 6-8k in the duration of 3 years time. If the above is not the case, mind to share  erm working in top medium firm.... the time i joined i gotten alot of special assignments which are different from ordinary audit jobs... i got very high additional allowance as well from my 3 torturing years due to my job scope....  but its proven to be worthwhile after i come out from audit field and easily can get the increment i want + position i want from other company....
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aaron1717
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Oct 1 2018, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Oct 1 2018, 10:11 AM) Me too. I bought one , only after two years working. I came to KL from Sitiawan, Perak in 1989. I bought my furnished unit in 1991. Price RM105,000. Loan instalment per month RM462. Rented out one room for RM 450 per month. You don’t get a deal like this anymore. yea... those were the days... to be fair... although the price looks cheap... but the income those days actually just as low as the property.... haha....now still keeping that property bro?
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aaron1717
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Oct 1 2018, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(charlesWong87 @ Oct 1 2018, 12:40 PM) why bought a house is consider rich...  i'm just an average degree holder come from average family just like most ppl in the middle income scale... why one must think that owning a property is only for the rich when u can leverage on loans...
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aaron1717
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Oct 1 2018, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Oct 1 2018, 02:42 PM) No need to be rich lah. I also don’t have much savings. I came out less than 15 K to own the property including MOT. I took 90% loan. 10% of Property price only RM10,500. So, my loan amount is RM94,500. Honestly, my motivation was 4% interest rate i entitled to enjoy. Did you know, the interest rate at that time was rocket high, not like now .it was close to 2 digits. yeah... during my dad time its like more than 10% rate but shorter tenure... not like now... u can take up to 35 years tenure... haha
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aaron1717
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Oct 2 2018, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(ahmedjib @ Oct 2 2018, 08:33 AM) But dont you think youll be tied down to the load? like no freedom like that erm... hence why i say based on capability... if u able to get a housing loan without affecting your normal lifestyle would be the best... or else... motivate yourself to work harder if you really need one own house... for me... im on the former... dont really feel stuffy even having a housing loan.... i din buy the house based on very rush decision or without certain level of planning...
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aaron1717
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Oct 2 2018, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Oct 2 2018, 10:42 AM) If we close to retirement age, lets say 55 or 60, do you think it is good to buy a property to stay for our old life or just rent? I m thinking renting make more sense cause when we are old, we really do not know how many more years we will live. Renting make more sense? yeap.... when your kids all have their own life already... renting will not be a bad idea... all you need to concern is whether your wife ready for renting life or not only... haha
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aaron1717
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Oct 2 2018, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(teslabro @ Oct 2 2018, 01:00 PM) Aiya during my dad's time nasi lemak also costs 50 cents only but ur dad's time fresh grad salary could be only less than 1k also leh...
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aaron1717
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Oct 2 2018, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 2 2018, 02:21 PM) Aaron kor you n me know where to earn, where to save and more importantly where to spend and where to invest. Unfortunetely some people just emphasize on where to spend hmm... i think sometimes different condition will force them to make different decision and different mindset ba... but its true that nowadays... financial planning is very important but alot of ppl still decided to neglect it....
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aaron1717
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Oct 2 2018, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 2 2018, 02:24 PM) Obviously none of you guys were in the generation where fresh graduates only made rm300. lol... i'm gen Y mia.... can only rely on my father mia story.... and depends on where they work to get the income...
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aaron1717
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Oct 2 2018, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(AvenueX @ Oct 2 2018, 02:26 PM) Dulu fresh grad RM 300 and double storey house 19k. But now RM 3000 and double storey house 600k  u lupa about scarcity of land bro other than inflation... matured townships not expanding as fast as the population that demand for brand new landed every year....
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aaron1717
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Oct 2 2018, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 2 2018, 02:31 PM) Aiya aaron kor kahwin lah....maybe wife wouldnt be married him if he has no house under wifey name 1st u tied down w wife Next u tied down w housing loan Next u tied down w chidlren Next u tied down w yr job. Next u need to super like yr job Next u need to super like yr boss Next u take out second housing loan. No freedom meh? haha... never have the chance to know what if i dont have my own house.... whether i will be able to married eventually...  but usually chinese lang... u know la....
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aaron1717
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Oct 2 2018, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 2 2018, 02:42 PM) Actually i can tell you... You actually dont need to have a wife to own a house. Maybe the loan officer hasnt been exactly honest with you, or the developer. yeah memang no need.... when i bought this is just i want a proper roof over my own head aje... then smoothly everything will come into place subsequently...
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aaron1717
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Oct 3 2018, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(trust4you @ Oct 3 2018, 08:52 AM) bro u are so well to do. haha i rent for >7 or 8 years.. no la... local KL ppl ma... i rent also because lazy to travel to college from home by the jam of mrr2 nia...  compared to you guys who rented longer... more independent than me lo at least...
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aaron1717
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Oct 3 2018, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(Hisham8686 @ Oct 3 2018, 12:09 AM) He missed out on the fact that while over 30 years the lady who bought the house has build up an equity of RM1.5 million (3 fold increase), the guy who opted to rent did not build any equity in the house that he stays in. So by merely renting and not buying, the guy is taking an opportunity cost of losing in excess of 480k over 30 years. hence that guy is not really an expert... he know nuts about financial investment i would say... just a guy who know how to use basic calculator....
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