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Melvin117
post Sep 25 2018, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ Sep 24 2018, 06:16 PM)
Thank you for all the resources! Will check them out!

I try to spend an hour every day. Haha I usually try to finish chapter before classes. Actually, I am like 5 chapters ahead of the class right now since I am going to be taking N5 end of the year. Classes are where I get to practicing speaking and checking if I've made mistakes in my self-studies.

Thank you Fuji_apple for that suggestion! Sounds great!

I think my weakest now is listening and speaking. I can read and understand, but listening stumps me, it's just usually too fast.  rclxub.gif

What do you guys think about watching anime or japanese shows with japanese subtitles? Would that help at all?  hmm.gif
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Not really lolol, jdrama and variety shows might help with conversations but I never find anime to be a big help cause the medium is stuck between formal conversation and casual talks.
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post Sep 25 2018, 01:28 PM

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I personally want to continue my Japanese language studies again since I have done two years of basic language classes in my uni until this summer.

The level was about N4 but our uni one was harder cause we were required to learn how to write essays and compose emails and letters.
And with conversation skills both were tested alongside with grammar skills.

I would like to go for N3 should I'm be able to continue the language lessons but I couldn't find a language centre near my living/working area which is cheras/kajang.

[tl;dr] I wont study by my own and need help from language classes.
I'm lazy and not-so dedicated as I used to be when I was crazy about anime and idols, plus now I'm working shakehead.gif
I still want to learn the language now to know more about the Japanese culture.
I can understand anime without subs lol but I still need subtitles for jdramas cause I don't get 25% of the usually-used non-formal words and dialects and stuffs.

Any help on this minnasan?

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Melvin117
post Sep 26 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Sep 25 2018, 03:27 PM)
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I'm still passionate but just too busy and the nearest language centre near me is like 1++ hrs away, damn why is life so mafan haish

I still have uni friends in japan and daily dose of fresh Japanese contents to keep me interested, just not insanely enthusiastic like others
still planning to visit my amigo at Keio before he heads back to UK ayyy
(yeah my uni has exchange programme with major japanese uni such as tokyo U, kyoto U, keio, nagoya and hokkaido, really decent choices but I wasn't able to join)

I think using anime as a reason to learn the language is both good and bad cause once one is not actively interested in the medium anymore, the drive will just fade away(well that was for me)
One needs to appreciate the culture to truly go on, or just not losing interest on anime lmao like alot of my friends do

I used to watch anime on a weekly basis until this summer cause I was too free(uni ayyy)
However, I got busy with jobs and to settle down then I just lose interest entirely cause most shows suck in all honesty, shingeki no kyojin is still 10/10 tho


QUOTE(ChocChristy @ Sep 25 2018, 03:54 PM)
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Haha that skill is quite useful so that I can tweet in japanese and not look like a dumbass brows.gif

I had conversations in formal ways(with my Japanese senseis) and casual ways(with my japanese friends in japanese society) before so I'll just say that if you talk like how people speak in anime, you are going to get those "what's wrong with this boi/gurl speaking like a primary schooler" look tongue.gif

Anime Japanese is proper in some ways yet they need to cater to children so they SPEAK ULTRA SLOWLY, and they are mainly conversations so they will be partly improper too, but not the normally spoken way like how Japanese people converse.
The easy way to feel the difference is just watch an episode of Jdrama or variety (a great starter will be Hanzawa Naoki or Kodoku No Gurume or ニンゲン観察 モニタリング or any of the Jap variety shows you can find on youtube) and you can see it

Sure if you're learning Japanese, watching anime will at least let you to know better pronunciations, perhaps train your listening skills too if you are not using the english subtitles(they are bad, like, only korean and mandarin subtitles are good for japanese mediums IMO) but it won't really help with going further.
It's like great entertainment and drive but for education, it's pretty beginner level but not all helpful and frequently misleading.


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post Sep 26 2018, 10:40 AM

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Even for Chinese people, kanjis are not as easy as you have imagined cause the writings are based on traditional Chinese writings instead of the simplified ones we Malaysians are learning and using right now

Small history talk: the simplified Chinese writings were actually inspired from kanjis when they were created

And even though alot of kanjis and chinese words look no way apart, they have different strokes and dots so alot of practice is needed

for example, 毎日(Japanese) and 每日(Chinese), in japanese it's a long stroke for "mai" while it's 2 dots for "mei"

#languageISfun biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26 2018, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(tass @ Sep 26 2018, 12:30 PM)
Saw this thread and read till the end of the thread. Awesome sharing platform.

The starting point of learning Japanese language is due to anime.

After that I have studied Japanese during college times. Attended to language center and attended exams for both N4 and N3 and embarrassed to say didnt passed. Failed at listening as couldnt pickup the keywords.

When I start in working life, studying Japanese become difficult as not enough time.

Since then, I make myself to use Windows OS Japanese Edition since Windows ME! All Windows OS, I installed MUI Language Pack change 100% to Japanese. But keyboard still english! Wanted to get a Japanese keyboard.

Even my office laptop also I change to Japanese.

Nowadays I listen to live japanese radio using TuneIn Radio channels. Watch Live Japanese paid TV Streaming during commuting to work and after work at home.
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I CBA cause I use my PC to work and all types of japanese IMEs are just arses to use ohmy.gif
like they aint as direct as English IME and definitely 2 decades behind of Chinese IMEs in terms of convenience and shortcut keys

I have seen those japanese keyboard with beautiful kana etchings on them, always want to buy one but I'm yet to learn to type with kanas instead of romanji so I gave up hahaha

For my jap content consumption I'm still stuck at Netflix and chinese-subbed dramas and variety shows, yet to go that far

QUOTE(chinti @ Sep 26 2018, 12:57 PM)
Got my N3 long ago but too lazy to take N2...
Love Japan so decided to go Japan vacation one year while taking Japanese course there.
Now daily use japanese due to working in a Japanese company in Malaysia. Need to learn a lot of technical words...and my formal Jap quite bad due to all the casual type and inappropriate words I learn from jap friends..
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Damn that sounds wonderful, my constant worry is that I won't get chances to practice Jap speaking and even that I manage to pass N1, my language proficiency will decrease as soon as I stop learning doh.gif
Like my BM is so bad rn even though I got an A in SPM rclxub.gif

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post Sep 26 2018, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(tass @ Sep 26 2018, 02:33 PM)
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CBA=can't be arsed, which means couldn't be bothered

QUOTE(burgerRamli @ Sep 26 2018, 03:15 PM)
Yeah, Netflix got quite a lot of Japanese contents haha.

For example, Terrance house. Where the hosts will have to guess what's really happening in the conversation and what they really means. (Due to Japanese extremely reserved and good in hiding their opinions etc..)


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こんばんわー『テラスハウス』は見ず知らずの男女6人が共同生活する様子をただただ記録したものです。

man I love Boys and Girls in The City to the core, Aloha State was bad and the latest one was OK

like, it was a real sneak peek into how living in Tokyo feels like drool.gif

QUOTE(chinti @ Sep 26 2018, 03:47 PM)
still okla, type technical report in japanese everyday  biggrin.gif
30 days till my next vacation trip to japan  rclxm9.gif this time bringing my gf there to poison her with all the awesome stuff in japan
still debating hakone or kamakura for a day trip
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easily hakone brows.gif

if one is not impressed by hakone, the person is a bad person and no cure
Melvin117
post Sep 27 2018, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(burgerRamli @ Sep 26 2018, 11:45 PM)
1. Hahaha I see. Is ok, can always read it later. 大丈夫です, 甘いちゃん

2. I have the same thinking as you, knowledge are meant to be share and not to be kept. You are right on this. So far I am using iPhone default Japanese keyboard to type, just need to type the romaji then the hiragana characters will appear, something like typing pinyin in Chinese keyboard.

Noted. I will try to polish more in my hiragana. You got a point there.

For now I am trying to love the language, but at the same time also trying my best to instil some discipline on me. My biggest enemy is procrastination, so it is important to me to force myself to start studying, once started then no problem to continue studying 笑笑。

Yaya, because of the curve. Actually maybe nowadays I rarely write, that’s why I find it tough. I can barely right alphabets because everything is typing nowadays, especially when I am in IT field. はい,甘いちゃん。 わたしはひらがなが勉強を勤勉です。
本当にありがとうございます😊
ええええ!すみません,わたしは漢字がわかりませんです。

Konbanwa - “dunno katakana yet” wa “meet” zu “dunno” ri zu no boy girl roku jin ga dunno dunno dunno su ru dunno dunno o tada tada record Shitamono desu

Shall be means about 6 men and women staying together where their life and reaction will be recorded.

Ehhh I see hahahahaha.
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D U D E

It's the opening lines for the show, they just repeat it everytime with the same precision cause J A P A N E S E
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post Sep 27 2018, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(duh2k @ Sep 27 2018, 10:24 AM)
I believe it's 'Terrace House'. The reality show that's making a few waves.... smile.gif
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IMO it wouldn't be wrong to say that it's the most watched japanese show ever

I have so many foreign and local friends who aren't big fans of the Japanese culture just proceed to watch and actually finish it cause Netflix has it
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post Oct 3 2018, 12:21 AM

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Omg secret group lemme join
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post Oct 8 2018, 10:38 AM

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https://www.meetup.com/Japanese-Language-Cu...vents/255226968

anyone been to such a meeting before?

is this a lubang XD

 

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