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post Jan 2 2020, 08:02 PM

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Anyone took bjt before? Mind to share how to prepare for the exam?
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QUOTE(Trebuchetti @ Jan 2 2020, 06:54 PM)
Any good online courses on learning Japanese for beginners?

Some recommend Nihongo-Pro while others mention iTalki.

What's your advice, sweet_pez?
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Your purpose of studying Japanese will be...?
a) Academic reason? Plan to sit for JLPT exam in future? Or,
b) Merely for leisure/ fun to be able to understand a little or read some of the texts/ characters/ browse sites etc

If a, then will need to adopt a more serious and disciplined approach if you're doing self study.
If b, then it's alright to start anyhow you're comfortable with.

Basic/ first step:
It doesn't really matter pro nihongo book or not, as long as it's easy for you. First off learn the basic on how to write and read the Hiragana and Katakana. Also get started on basic/ simple Kanji characters - a lot of Apps can help you with this.

Forming sentences:
When you're ready to form sentences, that's when you need some sort of reference/ materials because that's when particles, grammars, vocabs etc kicks in.

I started with Minna no Nihongo book and i find it useful as reference. But it's not everything.

Option 1 - with Minna no Nihongo book or others
Imo if you wish to use this book, find somewhere to /koff download /koff or purchase the book.
Subsequently use YouTube as one of your main guide to get started such as:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi2AeYO-g8E

There are a lot of online tutorials, videos etc. Additionally you can also search for similar groups in Facebook Groups.

Option 2 - without a book
With this, you'll want to look around serious for resources that can help to guide you step by step. At least with a textbook/ guidebook, there's a step-by-step approach to learning. Without one, it'll be randomly searching for materials.

I honestly find this site very resourceful and useful: https://www.mlcjapanese.co.jp/

Scroll down to [Free Study Materials] to get started. They have some free trial lessons for online too:
https://www.mlcjapanese.co.jp/online.html

Navigate around the site, there are various sections and free resources to look up. Ask away if you have any other questions biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(bookleaf @ Jan 2 2020, 08:02 PM)
Anyone took bjt before? Mind to share how to prepare for the exam?
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Nope have not taken this before. Are you taking? What are the details?
Actually have no idea when and where is the exam held too. The syllabus/ examination is presumably very different compared to JLPT hmm.gif
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post Jan 6 2020, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Jan 6 2020, 05:01 PM)
Nope have not taken this before. Are you taking? What are the details?
Actually have no idea when and where is the exam held too. The syllabus/ examination is presumably very different compared to JLPT hmm.gif
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You can Google Business Japanese Test for more information. As per title, its business Japanese so you will be using a lot of sonkeigo and kenjougo. The exam is computer based and time to take the exam is quite flexible too. I'm gonna take jlpt N1 this July, if pass only will proceed with bjt. Meanwhile wanna find out how to prepare for bjt haha.

Failed n1 twice and gonna try again this July. Hopefully can pass. 🙏
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QUOTE(bookleaf @ Jan 6 2020, 05:37 PM)
@sweet_pez
You can Google Business Japanese Test for more information. As per title, its business Japanese so you will be using a lot of sonkeigo and kenjougo. The exam is computer based and time to take the exam is quite flexible too. I'm gonna take jlpt N1 this July, if pass only will proceed with bjt. Meanwhile wanna find out how to prepare for bjt haha.

Failed n1 twice and gonna try again this July. Hopefully can pass. 🙏
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Yeah i did googled it. What i meant was didn't even know there's one for business (international level) prior to your mentioning. Details as in the exam location etc but you've answered that saying it's computer based.

All the best in your upcoming N1 examination thumbsup.gif

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post Jan 6 2020, 08:07 PM

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Is there any group around that members can chat with each other in japanese language?

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post Jan 6 2020, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Jan 6 2020, 06:54 PM)
Yeah i did googled it. What i meant was didn't even know there's one for business (international level) prior to your mentioning. Details as in the exam location etc but you've answered that saying it's computer based.

All the best in your upcoming N1 examination :thumbsup:
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Hi i am using duolingo coz it is free.. Mondly look good but need to pay monthly subscription..

I juz want to learn speak some basic conversation, duolingo more to learning all the hiragana etx.


Any suggestion... Thhank you in advance
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Thanks for the advice, sweet_pez.

One more thing, is ILOHA in Bangsar good for beginners?

Or are there other IRL Japanese language classes that you'd personally recommend? Maybe ICLS or Japan Foundation?

I understand that it's "all up to me" & "practice X3" but I'd love to have a teacher who's passionate, fun and understanding.


As for what purpose, at least for watching anime, reading manga or buying stuff on Japanese sites.

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QUOTE(Trebuchetti @ Jan 7 2020, 12:17 AM)
Thanks for the advice, sweet_pez.

One more thing, is ILOHA in Bangsar good for beginners?

Or are there other IRL Japanese language classes that you'd personally recommend? Maybe ICLS or Japan Foundation?

I understand that it's "all up to me" & "practice X3" but I'd love to have a teacher who's passionate, fun and understanding.
As for what purpose, at least for watching anime, reading manga or buying stuff on Japanese sites.
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https://cakapjepun.com

I study online here. They have weekly online classes. I've already finished 2 years ago..
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for those who never learn chinese character before, i recommend heisig method of remembering kanji



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QUOTE(bookleaf @ Jan 6 2020, 09:30 PM)
Sweet_pez
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QUOTE(Trebuchetti @ Jan 7 2020, 12:17 AM)
Thanks for the advice, sweet_pez.

One more thing, is ILOHA in Bangsar good for beginners?

Or are there other IRL Japanese language classes that you'd personally recommend? Maybe ICLS or Japan Foundation?

I understand that it's "all up to me" & "practice X3" but I'd love to have a teacher who's passionate, fun and understanding.
As for what purpose, at least for watching anime, reading manga or buying stuff on Japanese sites.
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Centres/ language classes are dependent on your location. I'll suggest somewhere easily accessible for you and where timetable is comfortable for you. One of my friend studies in Japan Foundation - their speed is slower, less academic and more focused on activities/ interaction. Also they do not use the Minna no Nihongo book - they're using their own textbook (not sure which/ what book).

No doubt having a teacher is the best laugh.gif it keeps you in check and helps you understand better.

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post Jan 9 2020, 08:55 AM

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sweet_pez, wish to ask if i'm using Minna no nihongo, until which book I need to finish in order to be able to take jlpt n3 ...? thanks smile.gif

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QUOTE(nsg86 @ Jan 9 2020, 08:55 AM)
sweet_pez, wish to ask if i'm using Minna no nihongo, until which book I need to finish in order to be able to take jlpt n3 ...? thanks smile.gif
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Hello~! Cover up to 50 lessons (yellow book by the old standards) should be sufficient. There might be some keigo questions in the exam if i'm not mistaken so you'll need to know them at least

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post Jan 9 2020, 11:55 AM

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Hi all, just want to do a self-plug here. I'm currently working in ILOHA Culture Centre as an admin. Just took JLPT N3 last December, currently waiting for my results. Studied here for around 2 years already since they gave me free lessons for working here. If you guys are looking to join Japanese classes conducted by native Japanese instructors, please feel free to enquire. We have classes from Wednesdays to Sundays, next intake for part-time courses (once a week) will be in early to mid February. For intensive courses (5 times a week), next intake will be in March. If you have the time, do drop by and look for me and I can explain everything in detail to you. If you guys have any questions at all, can pm me or reply to me. Will reply if I have the time.

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Tel: 03-2202 2800 (Wed-Sun except public holiday: 9am-6pm)
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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Jan 9 2020, 09:44 AM)
Hello~! Cover up to 50 lessons (yellow book by the old standards) should be sufficient. There might be some keigo questions in the exam if i'm not mistaken so you'll need to know them at least

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ooh, I'm using japanese version ... guess that's translate to minna-no nihongo 中級 I is it? ... thanks man smile.gif
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QUOTE(nsg86 @ Jan 9 2020, 12:46 PM)
ooh, I'm using japanese version ... guess that's translate to minna-no nihongo 中級 I is it? ... thanks man smile.gif
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Generally speaking if you are using the original Minna no Nihongo textbook,

Elementary I (初級 I, covers chapter 1-25): JLPT N5;
Elementary II (初級 II, covers chapter 26-50): JLPT N4;
Intermediate I (中級 I、covers chapter 1-12): JLPT N3;
Intermediate I (中級 II、covers chapter 13-25): JLPT N2;

As far as i know Minna no Nihongo doesn't really cover anything beyond N2, for N1 you'll have to use other textbooks. Do take note that the above should not be followed strictly, I've seen cases where they include grammar and vocab from a higher level (ie. when you take JLPT N5, they might include things from JLPT N4, but not much, maybe just 2-3 questions).
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QUOTE(Minovsky007 @ Jan 9 2020, 02:45 PM)
Generally speaking if you are using the original Minna no Nihongo textbook,

Elementary I (初級 I, covers chapter 1-25): JLPT N5;
Elementary II (初級 II, covers chapter 26-50): JLPT N4;
Intermediate I (中級 I、covers chapter 1-12): JLPT N3;
Intermediate I (中級 II、covers chapter 13-25): JLPT N2;

As far as i know Minna no Nihongo doesn't really cover anything beyond N2, for N1 you'll have to use other textbooks. Do take note that the above should not be followed strictly, I've seen cases where they include grammar and vocab from a higher level (ie. when you take JLPT N5, they might include things from JLPT N4, but not much, maybe just 2-3 questions).
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noted on that, thanks for sharing smile.gif

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QUOTE(Minovsky007 @ Jan 9 2020, 11:55 AM)
Hi all, just want to do a self-plug here. I'm currently working in ILOHA Culture Centre as an admin. Just took JLPT N3 last December, currently waiting for my results. Studied here for around 2 years already since they gave me free lessons for working here. If you guys are looking to join Japanese classes conducted by native Japanese instructors, please feel free to enquire. We have classes from Wednesdays to Sundays, next intake for part-time courses (once a week) will be in early to mid February. For intensive courses (5 times a week), next intake will be in March. If you have the time, do drop by and look for me and I can explain everything in detail to you.  If you guys have any questions at all, can pm me or reply to me. Will reply if I have the time.

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21-1, Jalan Telawi 2, Bangsar Baru, Bangsar, 59100 Kuala Lumpur
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Facebook: www.facebook.com/iloha.my
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Hi, thanks for the plugin!

I'm considering taking evening classes there and I have some questions:

1) When are your evening classes?

2) My current job is 9-6 with non-fixed off days per month. If say, I've taken a class but I can't the next day due to work, is it possible to replace?
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QUOTE(Trebuchetti @ Jan 12 2020, 10:43 PM)
Hi, thanks for the plugin!

I'm considering taking evening classes there and I have some questions:

1) When are your evening classes?

2) My current job is 9-6 with non-fixed off days per month. If say, I've taken a class but I can't the next day due to work, is it possible to replace?
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