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 Gerbils Hut V5, I wont bite you, I wont stink either!

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post Sep 28 2007, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Sep 28 2007, 12:06 AM)
some programming no need end if, like if used in crystal report tongue.gif
I'm sure im not making sense to most ppl...hahaaa
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not so simple k.. lol. Do it like

class genes extends gerbil.rodents{

gene pp = new gene();

pp.gene() = red eyes;
}

LOL. I'm doing nonsense here. Gotta study for my business test tmr. See ya guys tongue.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 28 2007, 12:55 AM)
nah if u got heart to read up.. u will able to understand it.. u can go study abit n post question here.. i am more than willing to share with u. as long as u willing to learn.
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wah.. i can learn from you also right.. smile.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:26 AM

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Breeding does take alot of time.... my parents are not gerbil people, so I have to do alot of control breeding. For me I got 2 large 2ft tanks and 4 other 1.5ft tanks.... I only have about 20 gerbils coz I only keep colours that I feel necessary for breeding and also the gerbils that were from my 1st breedings.

How much I spend? I really dunno, never calculate hahahah.... but what i know, my RM500 a month allowance is never enough. That's why I have to find ways to gain a bit of money, not for my needs but for my pet needs. Cleaning and feeding and handling takes up all my time, I actually rarely go out with my friends, I know many forumers here ask me go yum cha with them but hahah, really no time for that.

Start with a good healthy pair first, also make sure you know the genes and background of the gerbils. If not, it will only give you headache they only produce common colours like black, lilac, nutmeg and agouti....
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:30 AM

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A Pp + Pp will give 3 possibilities rite? (PP,Pp and pp)? PP + PP gives one?
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:32 AM

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Pp X Pp will give u 2 eye one is PP n Pp which u never know who carry Pp, n pp
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:33 AM

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lilac and nutmeg are considered as a common colors ke??
i think only black and agouti.. laugh.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 28 2007, 12:32 AM)
Pp X Pp will give u 2 eye one is PP n Pp which u never know who carry Pp, n pp
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so a gerbil with 6 different dimesion will give you how many possibilities if 1 dimesion gives 2? 12? Lol.. I must be crazy icon_question.gif
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Lilac got loads at Pet Safari, PW also got.... nutmeg and blacks, you can see so many at Pet Family and PW also.... coz sometimes when you breed 2 colours that don't compliment each other well, then result also all blacks or agoutis....
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post Sep 28 2007, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(dien @ Sep 28 2007, 12:33 AM)
lilac and nutmeg are considered as a common colors ke??
i think only black and agouti..  laugh.gif
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yes to me, as u study their gene. smile.gif

QUOTE(-Abtic- @ Sep 28 2007, 12:44 AM)
so a gerbil with 6 different dimesion will give you how many possibilities if 1 dimesion gives 2? 12? Lol.. I must be crazy  icon_question.gif
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sorry totaly don' tknow what u trying to say.
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post Sep 28 2007, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Sep 28 2007, 01:45 AM)
Lilac got loads at Pet Safari, PW also got.... nutmeg and blacks, you can see so many at Pet Family and PW also.... coz sometimes when you breed 2 colours that don't compliment each other well, then result also all blacks or agoutis....
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 28 2007, 09:49 AM)
yes to me, as u study their gene. smile.gif
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oo ok// now i now what kind of common is.. huhu.. tongue.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(dien @ Sep 28 2007, 08:52 AM)
oo ok// now i now what kind of common is.. huhu..  tongue.gif
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hahha i mean for me.. they r not common smile.gif u if pair it wrongly u will lost these 2 colors smile.gif common for me is. what every u pair u will see the colors..
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When breeding must pair correctly, then also must aim for a good colour.... for me, I try to not breed colours that are already alot in the market.... that to me is common hehehhe... but wrong breedings, always would be blacks or agoutis.... dominant genes.

Like the 40 gerbils and 8 gerbils for adoption later, all ah... Blacks, Agoutis, Lilacs.... I think got a few Argente....

Anyway, I will let you guys know about inbreeding incident. This is why we always stress never to buy a pair from the same petshop, not only gerbil but other animals.

I'm fostering a gerbil family for 3 months.... well, the female died before I got them, leaving behind 5 pups and 1 male(dad).... The female died after eating something wrong, this is what I suspect lah. Anyway, both male and female came from the same petshop..... so the owner really loves them, wanted to breed one time then separate dad with males and mom with females later.... but the sad thing..... inbreeding. The 5 pups slowly now left only 2 after under my care. I try my best to doctor them but nothing worked. Their immune system was very weak, making them prone to getting sick easily. 3 got sick.... wet tummies and wet butts, like wet tail but it is not.... hunched back, no appetite, and 1 by 1 slowly died.... Now the dad and 2 pups are stabil and healthy..... but one thing really makes me worried is that their body size. They lost their mom before fully 3 weeks old, means haven't complete weaning.... also, the inbreeding caused them to have smaller growth. The pups are now 6 weeks old but they actually look like they are only 4 weeks old. I will take some pictures for you guys to see and compare.

I just hope they grow bigger and stay healthy.
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post Sep 28 2007, 01:00 PM

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All the best to the fostered gerbils.

Wah hun, with all the animals you are going to foster, will you even have room to sleep? lol.. I can now imagine your room once step in got all sorts of animals all over the floor.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Sep 28 2007, 12:26 AM)
Breeding does take alot of time.... my parents are not gerbil people, so I have to do alot of control breeding. For me I got 2 large 2ft tanks and 4 other 1.5ft tanks.... I only have about 20 gerbils coz I only keep colours that I feel necessary for breeding and also the gerbils that were from my 1st breedings.

How much I spend? I really dunno, never calculate hahahah.... but what i know, my RM500 a month allowance is never enough. That's why I have to find ways to gain a bit of money, not for my needs but for my pet needs. Cleaning and feeding and handling takes up all my time, I actually rarely go out with my friends, I know many forumers here ask me go yum cha with them but hahah, really no time for that.

Start with a good healthy pair first, also make sure you know the genes and background of the gerbils. If not, it will only give you headache they only produce common colours like black, lilac, nutmeg and agouti....
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Hahha.. my RM50 per week allowance also barely enough for me and my 2 gerbils. cry.gif I can feel your pain hun lol.

QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Sep 28 2007, 10:25 AM)
When breeding must pair correctly, then also must aim for a good colour.... for me, I try to not breed colours that are already alot in the market.... that to me is common hehehhe... but wrong breedings, always would be blacks or agoutis.... dominant genes.

Like the 40 gerbils and 8 gerbils for adoption later, all ah... Blacks, Agoutis, Lilacs.... I think got a few Argente....

Anyway, I will let you guys know about inbreeding incident. This is why we always stress never to buy a pair from the same petshop, not only gerbil but other animals.

I'm fostering a gerbil family for 3 months.... well, the female died before I got them, leaving behind 5 pups and 1 male(dad).... The female died after eating something wrong, this is what I suspect lah. Anyway, both male and female came from the same petshop..... so the owner really loves them, wanted to breed one time then separate dad with males and mom with females later.... but the sad thing..... inbreeding. The 5 pups slowly now left only 2 after under my care. I try my best to doctor them but nothing worked. Their immune system was very weak, making them prone to getting sick easily. 3 got sick.... wet tummies and wet butts, like wet tail but it is not.... hunched back, no appetite, and 1 by 1 slowly died.... Now the dad and 2 pups are stabil and healthy..... but one thing really makes me worried is that their body size. They lost their mom before fully 3 weeks old, means haven't complete weaning.... also, the inbreeding caused them to have smaller growth. The pups are now 6 weeks old but they actually look like they are only 4 weeks old. I will take some pictures for you guys to see and compare.

I just hope they grow bigger and stay healthy.
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Oh dear.. poor gerbils... babies without mamas milk at early age will naturally have weaker immune system. sigh... sad.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 02:32 PM

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inbreeding animal mostly will prone to this kind of thing happen one,
get sick easier, immune system collapes... bad health...
but then my yellow fox dunno whether is in breed or not,
and her pups till now quite ok, i guess got about more than half year liao...
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post Sep 28 2007, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 28 2007, 09:55 AM)
hahha i mean for me.. they r not common smile.gif u if pair it wrongly u will lost these 2 colors smile.gif common for me is. what every u pair u will see the colors..
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so, we have to (really really have to) know their gene first before breed right.. smile.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 03:54 PM

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yes dien if not u only messing urself and them... no fun at all..
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post Sep 29 2007, 03:07 AM

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hun, when the gerbs come to your hand, post up some picture ya...hehe...
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post Sep 29 2007, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Sep 28 2007, 04:54 PM)
yes dien if not u only messing urself and them... no fun at all..
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let say..
if we buy any gerbil from petshops.. so how to determine its gene??
any idea?? smile.gif
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QUOTE(dien @ Sep 29 2007, 10:59 PM)
let say..
if we buy any gerbil from petshops.. so how to determine its gene??
any idea??  smile.gif
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You can see in the gerbil which genes are presence from the outlook. As for the recessive genes hidden behind the dominant genes, you need to breed and see the outcome from the pups and it might take a few generations to know exactly what's the genes of the gerbil. Bear in mind that it's just for genes identification, pairing it up with another suitable gerbil to get the genes you desire is another different story. That's why a lot of space, time and money is needed.

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