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toocommon
post Jun 25 2020, 03:29 PM

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Hi,

This is what i have,

Time 500mbps
router: TP-Link c1200
modem: Huawei EchoLife HG8240H

Laptop: IntelĀ® Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 (2 x 2)
PC: TP-Link Archer T4U USB Wifi Adapter (2 antenna and support MU-MIMO, 2x2 correct me if im wrong) connected to USB3 port
phone: note 9 ("enhanced 4 x 4")

all support 802.11ac and i connect my devices to the 5ghz band.
speedtest using a few different tools such as ookla speedtest all gave me similar results pretty consistently.
DL: ~250mbps UL: 300 - 400mbps
all settings at default/auto

Also tried manually configured afew things as suggested above such as setting channel width to 80mhz, change channel and so on

if i specify cahnnel width to 20Mhz, the speed does go down, so it indeed affect the speed.
after changed to 20mhz: DL: ~150mbps UL: ~90mbps

Am i missing anything? (i actually created ticket to Time to ask for technician to check, pending respond)

This post has been edited by toocommon: Jun 25 2020, 03:29 PM
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post Jun 25 2020, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 25 2020, 04:09 PM)
Hi, I would like to recommend you to change router this stock router is unable to handle the speed that you're using.

I would like recommend you this router ( ASUS AC86U or ASUS ROG GT-AC2900.

Thanks.
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Hi you work with Time? actual performance vs spec so much difference? I'm sad. Anyway i have contacted Time and waiting for the technician to call, i'll get them to confirm the issue first.

Thanks for the info.
toocommon
post Jun 25 2020, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 25 2020, 06:26 PM)
I'm an agent for TIME. C1200 is very old and have a lot of issues and is replaced with TP-Link EC230.

This is due to router problem. Your receiving devices specs looks fine and able to support 500Mbps.
The router is preventing from you getting full speed via Wi-Fi.

What's your LAN Speed? 500Mbps?

Thanks.
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Time technician called me and this is what he said
it's normal to not reach the max 500 mpbs for wifi and 250 mbps is normal although the router support higher than that.
So i asked why my friend same router can reach 490mbps , he said no guarantee one and 250 is acceptable(not to me) and i only need to worry if LAN cannot reach that speed.
Currently don't have LAN cable cannot test that, will get a cable to test

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post Jun 25 2020, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 25 2020, 06:54 PM)
Hello, for the C1200 normally can get up to 250 via Wi-Fi.
If you are getting only 250 even near the router means you need to change the router.

I'm using TP-Link Archer C9 AC1900. I'm able to get 400-500Mbps near the router.
In the room around 100 - 200. Changing to Wireless AX Router and Wireless AX Adapter will solve this issues.
Supposely that C1200 is suitable up to 300Mbps only.
That's the reason that it can't achieve.
A few of the forumers here change to a new router and will solve the issues.
I have C1200 with me but it is totally worse than my own router ( Archer C9 ).
Even for 5GHz from C1200 getting lower speeds than my own router.

Thanks.
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hate the fact that the router differ so much interms of actual performance vs spec(and my friend does get 590mbps with same router). I understand the words "up to" but still...haha thanks for the info.
may be the wifi can run that speed but cpu and ram of the router cannot handle?
if my LAN gets near 500 then i will get another router. Thanks again

This post has been edited by toocommon: Jun 25 2020, 07:05 PM
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post Jun 25 2020, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 25 2020, 07:21 PM)
It is impossible to get that 500Mbps.
Are you sure that he is using the same router?
If he is using his own C1200 then will be difference cause TIME Stock Router and Own Router use different RAM.
TIME is using old TP-Link C1200 with old logo. New logo will be better.

You can refer to the YouTube here.
Even above the router also unable to achieve.
The C1200 RAM is too low and that's the reason that it can't achieve.

Thanks.
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i clarified with him again, he is using ec230-g1 connected to the modem then extend it with the deco m5.
Just now when he test again the speed, connected to the ec230-g1 he only get 50mbps lol
connected to the deco m5 he gets 230 mbps, seems like his connection is worse than mine, not sure if he got connected to the right band or not.
the 490 mbps one he got it when he first setup his mesh router, he mentioned may be because that time only himself was connected.

thanks for the video, so basically my(no wall, within 5 m) speed is similar to his with the wall in between.

This post has been edited by toocommon: Jun 25 2020, 10:24 PM
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post Jun 26 2020, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 25 2020, 11:08 PM)
TIME EC230 is better than C1200 slightly a bit.
If you wish to get EC230. It will be more or less the same with C1200.
Not worth the change if you are getting for free.

You can advise your friend to replace the stock router with the M5 instead.
If he is using 2 or 3 packs. Do inform that if he use EC230 together with Deco M5 will affect the speed.
As Deco M5 is using single SSID for both 2.4GHz and 5GHz.
While the EC230 has separate 2.4GHz and 5GHz signal.

Using Mesh Wi-Fi will generally improves the speed.
If your house is more than 1,400 or 1,500sqft then Mesh Wi-Fi will be sufficient.
Below than that use Single Router instead.

I'm using Archer C9, in the room able to get 5GHz signal ( 2 bars ).
My house is around 850 sqft. In the room able to get 100-200Mbps.
Will change router to AX Router soon when I am planning to fix the AX Wireless Card.

Thanks.
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could it be that Huawei EchoLife HG8240H the bottleneck?
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post Jun 26 2020, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 25 2020, 03:52 PM)
same, i get about 280Mbps up and down
in the end i change router. now can get 450-500mbps depending what client
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may i know which router?
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post Jun 26 2020, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 26 2020, 01:26 PM)
Asus Lyra Trio. I bought the 2 piece set but wish I gotten the 3 piece set instead. It's overall cheaper if buy more.
Anybody wants to sell me 1 piece pm me
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not cheap, may be later find one cheaper one aha

QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 26 2020, 01:38 PM)
Hello. This is my speed test below.
user posted image

I'm able to achieve 400-500 for upload speed.
For the download speed I will test again later as I need to restart the router.
I keep my Archer C9 running for 24/7. As my family member is using the Internet so I can't restart now.

Wi-Fi Card --> IntelĀ® Dual Band Wireless AC7265.

Thanks.
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I tested lan cable can go up to 450mbps(is that normal? thought it should near 500 like 480+), so like what you said, really the router wifi capability cannot la. Today testa bit better, able to get up to 300mbps depending on the server i chose.
later got budget change to a better router.

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post Jun 26 2020, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 26 2020, 03:48 PM)
LAN Cable connection should be above 500Mbps or less.
I'm able to get 520++Mbps via LAN.
Or you can try to bypass to ONU and create PPPoE connection there.
If no one around you are using the line.

Thanks.
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need to google how to do that, by the way is my router due to the lacking of "MU-MIMO" thing?
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post Jun 26 2020, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 26 2020, 04:29 PM)
I can guide you to do this.
I may PM you the steps.

Thanks.
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yup you can pm me i will try later, thanks
toocommon
post Jun 26 2020, 04:32 PM

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from the original post

"2x2 means 2 transmit and 2 receive.
MIMO (multiple in/multiple out) means the wifi can receive,send more than one wifi stream at the same time. Everything is MIMO now.
streams are sometimes called chains. Some people use the term antenna. Not wrong. One stream needs one antenna to transmit. Then you look at the C1200 which is 2x2 but it has 3 antennas. How leh? That one I explain later."

i dont see the explanation after that, can some one help point me to it?
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post Jun 26 2020, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 26 2020, 04:45 PM)
Hello, that is depends on the chipset that the router are using.
Not necessarily due to the number antenna present.

Not every devices support MIMO.
Mostly new laptops support that.
For phones like high end only got.

Thanks.
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I c, thank you! i assume the chipset on that router support ya

 

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