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post Sep 13 2018, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(soowky @ Sep 12 2018, 05:12 PM)
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KOTA BHARU 12 Sept. – Keputusan Kerajaan Pas Kelantan membeli kereta kenderaan mewah jenama Mercedes-Benz bagi kegunaan pegawai tertinggi adalah satu keperluan.

Timbalan Menteri Besar, Datuk Mohd. Amar Nik Abdullah berkata, kos penyelenggaraan kenderaan itu juga jauh lebih murah berbanding kenderaan jenama lain.

Menurutnya, setakat ini sebuah kereta jenama itu sudah dibeli bagi kegunaan Setiausaha Kerajaan Negeri, Datuk Nazran Muhammad.

“Kita beli ini (Mercedes-Benz) sebab keperluan kerana kereta sedia ada sudah melebihi tempoh. Kalau dikira daripada segi peraturan, selepas tempoh lima tahun boleh ditukar, itupun ada kereta yang sudah mencecah 10 hingga 12 tahun.

“Beli Mercedes ini juga bukan isu sebab sejak zaman arwah Tok Guru (Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat) lagi kita sudah beli. Kita beli juga sekadar kemampuan bukan semua tukar, baru sebuah kereta sahaja. Malah, kos penyelenggaraan jauh lebih murah berbanding jenama Toyota dan Honda,” katanya di sini hari ini.

Pengerusi Pakatan Harapan (PH) negeri, Husam Musa semalam mendakwa Kerajaan Pas Kelantan membuat pembelian sekurang-kurangnya sebuah kenderaan mewah jenama Mercedes-Benz untuk kegunaan pegawai tertingginya.

Menurut Husam, pembelian kenderaan tersebut dipercayai dibuat pada tahun ini dan perkara itu menimbulkan persoalan memandangkan keadaan kewangan kerajaan negeri ini adalah tidak begitu memberangsangkan. –UTUSAN ONLINEsos
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proton banyak kot...PM pun pkai proton.....dei2...
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:15 AM

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Perdana tyre 17” vs Mercedes tyre 18” lagi murah mercedes?
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Sep 13 2018, 08:58 AM)
For all you know it could be cheaper.

Government and corporate companies buy cars like these on corporate rate and it could be inclusive of maintenance and what not; depending on how the company quote them. I’m not surprised MB is willing to go all out slashing price and giving free maintenance just so that they can get the deal.
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That is true. Maintenance wise, Mercedes gives 3 years or 3 times free labor free part service.
But then Mercedes is 350K. Honda is 160K.
Let says you service it 5 times a year and honda service is say 1K per service and that is being very very generous.
that only comes to 5k per year.

How much is the price difference between honda and merc again??? Oh ya 190k!!!!!
You get a luxury item because you wants it, not because you need it.

This post has been edited by toekong: Sep 13 2018, 09:22 AM
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(toekong @ Sep 13 2018, 09:20 AM)
That is true. Maintenance wise, Mercedes gives 3 years or 3 times free labor free part service.
But then Mercedes is 350K. Honda is 160K.
Let says you service it 5 times a year and honda service is say 1K per service and that is being very very generous.
that only comes to 5k per year.

How much is the price difference between honda and merc again??? Oh ya 190k!!!!!
You get a luxury item because you wants it, not because you need it.
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EXACTLY!
We all know this, just that Amar wans a Merc!
Saya putar Halim!

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post Sep 13 2018, 09:29 AM

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True definition of "top up little bit get merc"
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Sep 13 2018, 09:00 AM)
I agree
But proton also willing to cut price
And it will be cheaper

Under similar circumstances
Local products like proton perdana will cost less
Than Mercedes

Thats fact
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There’s no quotation / proposal shown here. Unless we see the government’s tender specification and what each company quote, no way we can tell whether it is indeed cheaper or not.

But for all I know, it could be cheaper. Depending how hungry the company wants the deal and what’s their strategy once they ink the deal.
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Sep 13 2018, 09:39 AM)
There’s no quotation / proposal shown here. Unless we see the government’s tender specification and what each company quote, no way we can tell whether it is indeed cheaper or not.

But for all I know, it could be cheaper. Depending how hungry the company wants the deal and what’s their strategy once they ink the deal.
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For all u know. Proton might be cheaper

Thats the problem of talking about hypothetical situation

Lets focus on fact

Fact is
Mercedes-Benz cost more than proton
Price wise
Maintenance wise
Road tax wise
Repair wise.


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post Sep 13 2018, 09:41 AM

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No logic arguement from PAS, I wonder why ppl like this exist..no school in Kelantan?
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(toekong @ Sep 13 2018, 09:20 AM)
That is true. Maintenance wise, Mercedes gives 3 years or 3 times free labor free part service.
But then Mercedes is 350K. Honda is 160K.
Let says you service it 5 times a year and honda service is say 1K per service and that is being very very generous.
that only comes to 5k per year.

How much is the price difference between honda and merc again??? Oh ya 190k!!!!!
You get a luxury item because you wants it, not because you need it.
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When state govt buys cars, do they have to pay taxes? What Merc Benz model Kelantan bought?

Honda Accord 2.4 VTI-L costs rm129k in langkawi
Mercedes-Benz CLA 200 costs RM135k in langkawi

If merc gives 4 years free services like the other person shared and plus any corporate prices.. they could be getting a better deal w Merc

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post Sep 13 2018, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Sep 13 2018, 09:40 AM)
For all u know. Proton might be cheaper

Thats the problem of talking about hypothetical situation

Lets focus on fact

Fact is
Mercedes-Benz cost more than proton
Price wise
Maintenance wise
Road tax wise
Repair wise.
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For all I know, they could’ve covered all those in their deal with the government.

My previous co. did a 3 months study
for a government agency and we charged a measly 300k with only 5% margin. We still did it because we see a strategic intent in it.

You’ll never know unless they show you what’s inked in the proposal and agreement.
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(MrSyakir @ Sep 13 2018, 09:44 AM)
When state govt buys cars, do they have to pay taxes? What Merc Benz model Kelantan bought?

Honda Accord 2.4 VTI-L costs rm129k in langkawi
Mercedes-Benz CLA 200 costs RM135k in langkawi

If merc gives 4 years maintenance like the other person shared and plus any corporate prices.. they could be getting a better deal w Merc
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I’m sorry we r discussing at Langkawi now? I wasn’t aware......

My point is, the difference of car price between Honda and merc is the same as the difference in maintenance?
Even if u spend 10k per year for Honda and 0 cents per year for merc you can still save a lot if u go with Honda.
And btw Toyota maintenance is much cheaper than Honda.
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:50 AM

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yes.. cheaper maintenance
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post Sep 13 2018, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(toekong @ Sep 13 2018, 09:49 AM)
I’m sorry we r discussing at Langkawi now? I wasn’t aware......

My point is, the difference of car price between Honda and merc is the same as the difference in maintenance?
Even if u spend 10k per year for Honda and 0 cents per year for merc you can still save a lot if u go with Honda.
And btw Toyota maintenance is much cheaper than Honda.
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Tax exemption friend.. state govt purchases can obtain exemption from tax.. like when Penang bought mercedes benz
https://www.malaymail.com/s/590421/after-tw...hes-to-mercedes

Thats why I looked at langkawi prices.. because they are tax exempted..
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QUOTE(MrSyakir @ Sep 13 2018, 09:53 AM)
Tax exemption friend.. state govt purchases can obtain exemption from tax.. like when Penang bought mercedes benz
https://www.malaymail.com/s/590421/after-tw...hes-to-mercedes

Thats why I looked at langkawi prices.. because they are tax exempted..
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good point... tax exemption + dealer discount + prepaid maintenance package, that could be substantial.


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QUOTE(WaterBuffalo @ Sep 13 2018, 09:48 AM)
For all I know, they could’ve covered all those in their deal with the government.

My previous co. did a 3 months study
for a government agency and we charged a measly 300k with only 5% margin. We still did it because we see a strategic intent in it.

You’ll never know unless they show you what’s inked in the proposal and agreement.
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Correct
U never know
Maybe proton is cheaper

The fact suggest proton is cheaper
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QUOTE(MrSyakir @ Sep 13 2018, 09:53 AM)
Tax exemption friend.. state govt purchases can obtain exemption from tax.. like when Penang bought mercedes benz
https://www.malaymail.com/s/590421/after-tw...hes-to-mercedes

Thats why I looked at langkawi prices.. because they are tax exempted..
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LGE buy mercedes with the same excuse and ppl say he os smart

Why now Pas using same excuse cannot? Lol
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 12 2018, 05:19 PM)
isn't this same case as LGE last time?
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