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post Aug 5 2020, 06:13 AM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Aug 1 2020, 03:26 PM)
Shopee and ShopeePay are legally 2 different companies.
ShopeePay is a licensed e-money issuer regulated by Bank Negara. Your money deposited at ShopeePay is safe as it is kept at a Trust account, Shopee can't keep or use your money at ShopeePay.
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Why not ? see T&G from t&g reload prepaid toll now extend to parking , bus and even e-wallet use whole malaysia , now e-penjana too.
All from same company can use our $.The issuer also register under same shope address.

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post Aug 5 2020, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Aug 5 2020, 06:34 AM)
Your deposit at e-wallets is just like bank account, regulated and audited. The service providers and banks cannot simply use the fund without approval from Bank Negara, eg Shopee Malaysia cannot touch the trust fund (deposit of users) of Airpay Malaysia Sdn Bhd (ShopeePay), banks cannot use your money in Savings account to pay staff or branch operations etc. Of course you can always use your fund to make payment.

TNG e-wallet and TNG are separate entities as well. TNG e-wallet (TNG Digital Sdn Bhd) is owned by TNG and Ants Financial (Alipay, associated with Alibaba).

E-penjana is a Government scheme, not an e-wallet.
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Then how shope pay earn money from user ? even now give voucher for shope pay ? if everything can't use , then why so many ewallet company comes out with ewallet and promoting it ?

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post Aug 9 2020, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Aug 5 2020, 08:29 PM)
They are creating enterprise value, just like Lazada, Shopee, Uber, Tesla etc, to attract new investments. Eg Boost is losing million but Mitsui Japan and Great Eastern were investing a few hundred million RM into it, the founder Celcom-Axiata is the winner (who invested a few hundred million but its remaining shares now worth billion RM).
Most of e-wallets are eyeing to provide financial services eg micro-loan, insurance and unit trust. Jack Ma set up Alipay (e-wallet) to support Alibaba / Taobao transactions but now Ant Financial (which owns Alipay) is one of biggest unicorns worth USD 150 billion.
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I am not sure whether what i said is true , but
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post Aug 9 2020, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(xiaobaiwm @ Aug 8 2020, 10:17 PM)
wah bro which seller so kind hearted enable 10% coin cashback voucher
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Sometimes seller increase raise the price and let buyer to apply the 10% since it's shope own coin not the shop voucher.
But I check around there is no original price as cheap as the picture above.
Not sure whether it's demo unit or faulty unit , just make sure the seller is in the same town as you are staying because if anything happen can ask for seller for warranty.
Later your need to waste another RM100 for shipping.
btw , mind sharing how you actually able to use up 60k coins ? at lease you need to buy RM100 x 20 times orders of worth item = Rm2k orders.If no free shipping you are actually paying extra Rm100 extra.

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post Aug 9 2020, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Aug 9 2020, 12:40 PM)
Seller is in Jalan Puchong. Let's see if they will deliver  biggrin.gif
https://shopee.com.my/twk_electrical.tv_store

As for coins, my dad run a business. So we order few packets of 2kg milo every week.
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yeh , hope the seller really ship those applicant product , later get cancel.

If you can use up the 64k coins , or 4 or more orders a month over 12k coins utilize , just that you will lose some shipping fee since average you need to made 8 orders a months which you need to find cheap milo+15 free shipping.

QUOTE(xiaobaiwm @ Aug 9 2020, 06:06 PM)
Njhl bro. The seller this time big rugi haha.
Hopefully he don't cancel your order or give you lemon unit.

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Actually it's more on shope who give the coins , not the seller voucher.
Also , maybe seller earn back some where shipping free is RM100 too.I am not sure whether seller use their own delivery , if buyer and seller are actually around that town , shipping fee should be free too.If you go buy anything at Senq , they delivery to your house without any charge and even help you to install it.

Just to know , a 670l refrigerator and a washing machine is not light you know , at lease over 100kg for both , not sure Icehart can carry if living at apartment or condo. sweat.gif
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post Aug 9 2020, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Aug 2 2020, 06:07 PM)
Wth... this month free shipping for "all seller" limited to shopee pay only?!?!
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QUOTE(cucikaki @ Aug 9 2020, 07:00 PM)
Did shopee remove ‘all seller’ free shipping voucher for non-shopee pay?

I didnt see it in any of my 5 account anymore.
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Not sure how you have 5 account except you never register for shope pay.

I guess there is no more All seller free shipping , It is just matter of time when even Mall also shope pay.Maybe This year is the last.All free shipping only apply on shope pay.
In other words , put $ in my wallet to get voucher and free shipping and if not , no free discount. sad.gif

Once they have like more than example : 2million over legitimate and active user , next step , shope may come up with Shope ewallet for physical purchase like boost and t&g on 7-11 or speedmart.
Now the competition on ewallet era , If t&g local company lose including boost,grabpay , then shope will win all local market ewallet.

Shope own by Sea own by Tencent = Weixin china or wechat.

Future Malaysia will get own by china , Laz = Alipay or Shope = Wechat Pay

You can see now , no even one online shopping locally can do as good as them.Everyone only discuss on this two online shopping , nothing else.All previous online shopping already gone , now not sure how long can Presto Mall and Carousell can last.
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post Aug 12 2020, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Aug 9 2020, 10:21 PM)
The shipping partner is their own, not logistic company's.
I just went to the shop this afternoon. They waiting for Samsung to deliver the fridge to them. Then they will deliver to my condo.  smile.gif
Careful eh my gf's sister account got banned because of this.
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Then it's safe to know since you went to the shop and ask.A smart way to buy online.You don't need to carry the whole fridge and washing machine up from basement to your floor..Did you ask how is their sales yesterday ?

btw , what happen to the account why get banned ? as i know only some very valid reason only get banned.

QUOTE(asrin @ Aug 11 2020, 02:35 PM)
Saw that you can transfer from TnG eWallet >7E>Shoppee>Bank..

Anyone success on it?..Can transfer more than RM50?..

Could your account be banned cause of it?..
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QUOTE(xiaobaiwm @ Aug 12 2020, 12:00 AM)
Better not.
Alot of account banned because of withdrawal
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I think someone need to compile or member here clarify a possible get banned list of doing certain action.I saw some post that shope simply banned because suspect of activities and get banned , top up and withdraw get banned , using same address & payment CC for parents get banned and many more.
Just for buyer only.
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post Aug 25 2020, 06:22 AM

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I never though so random getting shope simply disable the account.
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post Aug 25 2020, 06:22 AM

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Need more user experience
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Still we need more user experience and cases to get a combination formula on how their system detect.

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post Aug 25 2020, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(Bug Juice @ Aug 12 2020, 09:57 PM)
Sorry, tumpang thread sekejab, I have one question if yall don't mind. Some product has sold 2,500 pcs, but the total number of reviews is less than 10, does it mean the seller using some kind of tricks to deceive consumers?
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I also want to ask , those sold are monthly count or total sold though the yearly or by product since publish ?
As for total review , it depends on product , if you have the link we can help to confirm whether it's real or fake.


QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Aug 19 2020, 10:44 PM)
Today want top up SP with cc, but the cc option gone, i thought its maintenance. Check my friend phone, can cc top up.
So i log out and log in another old ID which i used in the past, and the ID can top up SP. Log in back my account, cannot top up.. so i think sudah kena ban?
In june i did some purchase and extra money i withdraw. july i top up and withdraw.. this month kena ady..
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Aug 20 2020, 12:08 PM)
yes, u cannot withdraw with topup, if u did (which u did), u will be blocked from further topup with CC.
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This one I don't understand , what do you mean by topup and withdraw ? normally if you topup like 300 , nothing to buy then withdraw = ban ??????.What rules is this ?

So that is how Shope + pay can earn and keep your shope pay $$$ and use our $$$ for investment since most of us sometimes will topup but surely will top up more not knowing what to buy since no one knows which item purchase will have price drop.The remaining will stay at the wallet and shope can use our $$$ remaining to flow and invest.Correct or wrong ?

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post Sep 6 2020, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Aug 25 2020, 07:57 AM)
You can use ShopeePay at the merchants that accept DuitNow QR or Maybank QRPAY soon. Shopee is not the only place you can use ShopeePay
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Already start ? so another ewallet this year.Last year laz wallet.Too much ewallet like BPay,T&g,boost,grab,fave , even setal and etc.

btw , does shope pay have limit how long they allow user to keep the refund or $ inside the ewallet before dormant ? banks normally 1 year dormant no transaction and if 7 years inactive unclaim goes to bnm.
How to classified as inactive for ewallet ? didn't login or didn't use shope pay transaction ?
QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Aug 25 2020, 07:17 AM)
that's the rule. if wanna use, go to follow.
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Any t&c claim they will ban and remove the shope pay if withdraw ?

What about refund ? if top up rm50 , buy something using shope pay seller cancel and refund back , can withdraw ?



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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Aug 28 2020, 05:34 AM)
Not sure if ShopeePay/Grabpay/TNG are ready now, supposed to be ready in July.
Maybank QRPay is a part of DuitNow QR.
Business Current Account holders can get the DuitNow QR (merchant) easily and can win prizes.

https://www.duitnow.my/DuitNow-QR/index.html#consumers

https://www.rhbgroup.com/duitnowqr/index.ht...paign=duitnowqr
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I am still confuse , duitnow is a qr/bank transfer service, you can instant transfer from duitnow to shope pay but isn't that shope already have more than few transfer method ? like online banking , direct topup via DC/CC , 7-11 ?
Much easier using duitnow ?

QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Aug 28 2020, 09:12 PM)
In long run, Shopee will stop subsidising the delivery cost to cut loss, just like Lazada.
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Yeh , maybe but If i remember someone said laz and other online shopping like prestomall is waiting for shope to stop free delivery.

Laz already save a lot of bullet for this 2 years , waiting for shope cut free delivery and by that time , laz may goes back to old days giving voucher and free delivery to promote their own ewallet alipay again.
I think a lot of online shopping will wait for shope to cut cost so they can rise again.
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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Sep 9 2020, 09:43 PM)
Is TnG ewallet pay working for you guys?

Shitty app. Clear data for the app fixed the problem.
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The apps day by day more complicated than before.If website browsing using PC really very clean.Multi tab , easier to read review rating , easier to compare.
No need worry of all the scrolling to bottom for every product.
Searching more easy.

QUOTE(alexwsk @ Sep 9 2020, 11:29 PM)
arrghhh, 100% coins cb, what's the max?
feels like sales is bad, many 50% vouchers also not finish
only those in groceries and beauty/health are all gone
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This year sales 9.9 due to covid-19 not good. Maybe some categories will do better like foods and suppliment where people prefer buy online then going out.

The problem of unfinish voucher is shope pay.Some can't reload , after reload got limitation , prefer , no shipping fee.
More like shope focus on setting a ewallet base rather than selling online.


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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Sep 10 2020, 12:01 AM)
This is what I was thinking too earlier too. And they keep giving shipping vouchers as well.
Either that or it is because they have been giving out penjana vouchers everyday before this sale.
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I still think was because shope pay where they force 1 user only can use one voucher claim.
Even they give out , still limited to 1 buying.

Just compare from last 2 years vs this year sales.
Besides , now no $ with poor economy who going to buy more.

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Sep 10 2020, 07:46 AM)
Because you kena banned after withdrawal of ShopeePay credit into your bank account.
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There is no t&c mention cash-out will be banned ,ironically they have t&c allow withdraw.
here say can withdraw
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but at the end result , own created rules allow own self cannot follow ?
or maybe their t&c is as what this user said
QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Sep 6 2020, 08:46 AM)
not sure about that, but I think somewhere along the line will have something like 'shopee can do anything as they wish' lol.
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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Sep 10 2020, 09:03 AM)
google about this and i found this thread

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4723131/all

lol shopeepay sucks
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See above , they can do anything they like.No mention on t&c or anything then can simply banned a buyer but when buyer report seller sell fake product no problem no banned and can continue selling like normal.

Just to ask , how is shope singapore compare to malaysia management ? better or worst ?

QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Sep 10 2020, 09:59 AM)
Very good for Free Shipping Vouchers and Coins cashback at Shopee only.
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Good in sense of ?
More voucher able to give out and no worry of fully claim ?

Also you haven't reply my question since you understand more on shope pay ,
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does shope pay have limit how long they allow user to keep the $ inside the ewallet before dormant ? banks normally 1 year dormant no transaction and if 7 years inactive unclaim goes to bnm.
How to classified as inactive for ewallet ? didn't login or didn't use shope pay transaction ?


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QUOTE(bergstein @ Oct 10 2020, 12:22 AM)
QUOTE(bergstein @ Oct 10 2020, 12:55 AM)
I have leftover in my shopee wallet so I just buy some crap
shipping + packaging already exceed 0.1 LOL
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You are giving out your address , HP and etc details to China trade for 0.1.Not all item 0.1
Better becareful ,and also item didn't arrive also possible.How are you going to refund the process ?
QUOTE(Human Nature @ Oct 10 2020, 12:45 AM)
I dont see the point why they want to have this promo when it is only limited to one item each
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Maybe they have limited item and prevent for seller resell ?
QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Oct 10 2020, 12:58 AM)
The usual 10% coins back no cap voucher is better than 10.10 voucher :x
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Must think before apply the 10%.
Base on item price and your shope pay.If item above 1k while 10% back need shope pay then no use.
If item price on 10% cash back rm110 and other seller sell rm100 also same case.
If 10% without free shipping item price is rm100 means only rm5 cheaper because you need to pay rm4-5 for shipping.

You need to find an item with free shipping + 10% cash back together and cheaper than other seller.It takes time for you to find , even found maybe already sold out or just rm5 cheaper than other seller.

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post Oct 11 2020, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Oct 10 2020, 09:34 PM)
1. Only 1 or 2 coupons are PLATFORM WIDE. All sellers.

2. Almost all vouchers require Shopee Pay as method of payment
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Oct 10 2020, 09:36 PM)
Same here lo, a lot of shipping coupons but cant be used. Cos the items do not have the 'rm10 free shipping icon'. Only those that have this are eligible to use those coupons.

Only a few can use for all sellers. To be exact, 2 only for today. I hold my 3rd purchase cos no more free shipment.
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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Oct 10 2020, 11:34 PM)
Min RM0 spend free shipping only for shopee pay... lol
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Now , there is no free shipping for All seller anymore for non shope pay.You have register shope pay.

Even you register using shope pay , the All Seller voucher is only limited to 2 only.

You need to keep updates on event or sales date like 10.10 to claim free shipping voucher.

Most free shipping voucher with logo of non or min spend rm10-15 , item price will be a bit higher.Maybe WaCKy-Angel as a seller can tell us a bit more on the commission when joining free shipping program.
eg joining -free shipping program , 10% cash back , prefer seller , advertise on top banner , listed seller on promotion sales , join into Mall seller and promote in live watch video.
Not all of it not free , need to apply 1st and pay some commission.Sometimes you see item price is quite weird pricing like 9.73 cents calculated with the system.
WaCKy-Angel can give some example ? if rm10 item , joining which program require seller to share some benefits to shope ?
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Oct 11 2020, 12:13 AM)
these are BNM regulations
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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Oct 11 2020, 12:39 AM)
Why doesn't Lazada pay require the information then? Whether these are BNM regulations, I'm not sure. That's what Shopee says only.
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Every E commerce website can have their own t&c and can simply put.
BNM is a basic regulation , they can follow or not to follow by providing some strong finance reason or when they apply the wallet before BNM comes up with the regulation or they confront to request BNM lifting up some regulation to keep user info safety ?

but on Shope prefer to collect more on user details because they plan to expend their wallet base system until they reach top 10.You know shope is under wechat pay company.
QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Oct 11 2020, 12:42 AM)
my guess is something to do with the withdrawal/transfer feature to prevent money laundering.
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BNM is a basic regulation on e purchase.Simple to say , every withdraw from user/seller , a company need to record into account down their details as finance statement and submit to tax regulation.
So even on laz or shope or other online platform using wallet need user details when withdraw.All in/out must have a trace.
Most ewallet like t&g and boost and others not allow withdraw to prevent money laundering.
QUOTE(agewisdom @ Oct 11 2020, 12:49 AM)
That depends on the terms and conditions set by Shopee. Legally though, based on norms, this is unacceptable. Just like buying something from supermarket. Once you make payment, there's a contract. The supermarket can't come back and say, oh the pricing is wrong, here's your money, please return the goods.
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Normally shope could do that because they say so.Actually , the case is your $ is still not yet account into seller and only kept in wallet.I am not sure but even CC will take 1 month to get transfer back to the shop.

It's their mistake and shope must accept their mistake of loses on pricing error on voucher.This is not the 1st time of voucher error and refund iirc.

Do they return back the free shipping/coins and etc ? if not you can make a complain.

If we found they are doing this tactic as marketing , report to mcmc.In other words , they are luring buyer to topup shope pay , then later cancel buyer item and $ return back to shope pay.
If you topup using CC to shope pay.Withdraw = banned.
So $ will keep forever at shope pay.Shope benefits all ?

If there are more than 100 reports to MCMC on shope , surely will take action

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Oct 11 2020, 12:57 AM)
that may be true, we have to lodge complain
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KPDNHEP, KKMM, MCMC is the only way.This is a valid reason as a fake promotion to trick buyer to bank in money to shope pay.
Those feel like cheated please lodge a complain or you can phone to mcmc to tell them.

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post Oct 11 2020, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Oct 11 2020, 12:06 AM)
It's more on privacy issue. Some people don't like giving their personal information. Unlike Lazada pay which doesn't ask for IC especially a picture of the IC and also a selfie holding the IC as well.
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Oct 11 2020, 12:13 AM)
Shopeepay need to show IC???
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Last time i also mistake , though shope pay need show ic.Only if you need to expend above rm500 need ic.Below only need to key in ic number only.
Even so, shope doesn't follow BNM regulation and even goes above the user privacy by taking user own body.
their e-kyc is wrong and not base on BNM, complain can be log to KPDNHEP, KKMM, MCMC if user feel offended


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Just for your info , if you guys get your package , try to sanitize the package if it's the product you buy is Food that can be consume.
Even not, wash your hand after open the package box or bubble wrap.

Saw a lot of transit from Sabah item mix together.

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