just went for review three days ago.

dr how gave me a bad news again.

he said it would better if i extract two teeth from lower part :(but if i don wanna extract this time, he can try to do something, but the effect is not very perfect. and he said i have gummy smile. i have to put screws too. two biji, as he said!  and the screw can also adjust my lower part of teeth too.

guess, i wont have any extraction anymore, because i only have 26 teeth with me currently. if i extract two again, i will only have 24 biji (

mind sharing with the screw thing? easily get effected? pain? etc? dr said, 30 second, it will be done!

nice meh? mayb i lay down didnt move much so didnt bleed long time lo...
now that extraction holes very itchy.. is it normal or causes that i curi2 makan 1 macaron desert?

Mataharih and livon, u guys' comment are what i exactly hear from dr how..
4 teeth extraction make my face slimmer..
i been worried a lot whether will my face become long, too sunken and make me look ugly after the extraction.
i asked dr how before whether i can have a look on some example profile which from round face to slim face, but he said everyone profile is different and is very hard to say..i like huh?what if my slim face not nice? then he said girls better with slim face..
now i have chubby face, i really scare i will become long horse face?
tomolo will be my extraction..i scare i will regret like mataharih..HELP!!!!

are you serious? im freaking out now. he din check properly if you have the so called bone before he put it in?

how do you feel now? feel pain for the screw?how pain? is it discomfort like everytime after review? im going to have the screw on 20th

holy shit! it is so scary! hopefully this wont happen to me.. im so scared of pain..

hows the discomfort of screw compare to the discomfort of after review?  20th is the day. sigh

thanks! u boosted me up. im going there tmr..haha!! actually i feel very peaceful now. don feel panic or what. just, let it be..haha!

just done the screws thing. there are bigger than i thought. and dr keep reminding me to make sure the area of screw is clean. just to avoid infection. sigh. and dr how said, even if screws are installed,  my gummy smile wont cure 100%, ask me to have preparation.

Hmm a bit costly, but he does it very carefully Both of mine has fully healed. Nola you cannot feel the pain because he will give u anaesthetia and keep testing to make sure its fully numb and you cannot feel. Erm one of mine was under the gums also, so he kind of like open up the gums and remove the tooth. No worries

deadangel, don't worry ! The screws are not pain one. The first time was painful because its loose and doctor didn't screw it deep enough. If he put it deeper, its not painful

deadangel, ahaha you're so lucky ! I haven't been on this thread in awhile but I came today and saw your question. Yes dear, one of my screw went goyang goyang cause when doctor installed it, I was scared and abit freaked out like you. So maybe the screw didn't go in enough thats why it goyang. Don't wanna make you upset but he will reposition your screw which means take out and screw it in another place again.

I have 4 screws in my mouth, 2 already repositioned, 2 more left for repositioning. So altogether, 8 times of torture OhmyGod! Can't wait for this to end!!!

fion@gem Damon is stronger and gives better result. Rm5.5k doesnt sound too cheap for normal braces. My damon cost me RM6k. What do you mean by everything? If you're talking about inclusive of extraction of wisdom tooth and screws, then it might be reasonable. But why don't you do Damon instead? I would spend the extra cash for better results since you only put on braces once in a lifetime.

Hahaha relax darling, don't faint ! No matter what, you have to go through it, no choice right. Besides you're already paying for the braces treatment, better go all the way. Usually he will reposition cause if its goyang, then it won't be doing its work of 'pushing' the teeth right. Maybe also cause you don't have too many bones around that area, its hard to stay sturdy between the gums. It's okay, just ask him during your next visit, no harm!

I got mine repositioned to do their job at different areas. hahah complicating. Btw is your screw up or bottom ?

anyone on rubber band stages?? can share experience to put on rubber band?

phantom annonymous, whr's ur location?

deadangel, LYN Bracesians' Place Gathering?

don't worry girls. not painful one all the powerchains and all. the only painful thing is removal of wisdom tooth and inserting screws (i think i got used to having my screws re-placed now).

Ah I told him, i can't put my rubber bands cause I'm too scared. and then there is a gap there. so he put springs for me they are like rubber bands, but they are forever there. if you have already mastered the rubber band, i don't think you need the springs then !