Rich??? Aiyooo no-lah... not Coach or LV... just a biasa brand only...
Haih nikki, u talking about burger... suddenly craving for that prosperity lor...


Hehehe... wat to do... have to sacrifice alot for braces...
If ur Dr. charges u RM70, i believe it includes medication...
Otherwise, it wud be damn expensive la... better confirm with them first...

Uhuk! Prosperity sold once a year only... no matter wat, i'll try to eat that... even a bite of it is enough to fill-up my crave... am i sound so kesian? hakhakhak... but u know wat, with bite stopper installed, i found that it is easier to chew food... chew with bite-stopper (since it is damn keras) 3-4 times then swallow... without worrying so much if i bite so hard on one of those brackets... ...most of us dont like bite-stopper, but i kinda like it... im weird hahahha

Yeah, its been a month and 2 weeks now... i saw improvement during a month after installing braces... since my teeth are well-aligned top and bottom, so the major improvement i can see is my protruding tooth on upper part is pulled in... i did compare my photos from front and below teeth... i was so happy to see the improvement... just now i compare again and it is wayyy better than before... i'll find time to compile all photos and post it here... love my braces so much...

Same goes to lower part... but now since i've partially done with extraction, im eager to see improvement where the gap will get smaller n smaller... imagining how braces do its job and im amazed to see those teeth move and slowly close the gaps...

Congrats nikki... oh yeah, do u still have ur bite-stopper installed?

Kentcp, when r u going to debrace urself??? Cant wait to be at ur stage... errr, what happen to other ppl in this forum? so silent

I started my treatment on Nov '08, few months after u... I think Dr. How asked me to extract teeth bcoz i dont have prob with my teeth alignment, they r all straight n nice... he said after extraction, he will start concentrating on pulling in my protruding teeth (yeah, ppl used to make fun of it)... and for that, i think thats why i extract teeth earlier than you... i had my braces installed both upper n lower jaw at the very same day... now, im not ashamed to have a wide smile and showing off all my teeth accessories... im getting used to it... but i just dont like when the first time frens or relatives discover my braces... im tired to answer all paparazzi-like questions and comments... huhuhuhu...

Oh yeah... nikki... just to tell u ahhh... last wiken, i had prosperity burger... kehkehkeh . But i dint bite it, instead, cut it into smaller chunk and chew slowly... tadaaaaaa... phew... finally... thank God...

Yeah, we have spent alot for braces, ofcourse the Dr. and most importantly us, we want the result as perfect as possible... hehehe... nvr mind la kentcp, sooner or later, we will debrace ourself... looking forward that moment to come...

Too crowded, too bad, too serious (define serious ) are probs where Dr. will decide whether to extract teeth or not... another thing that a Dr. looks for is how wide ur jaw is able to accomodate all teeth... my ortho said my teeth are consider not serious, but my jaw is too small... so he gave me 2 options where (1) install screw but teeth gap I will get is max 5mm only, and the result will be just a normal one, or (2) extract 4 teeth, and the result will be superb...

Thus, i chosed the 2nd option... it is like, sacrifice 4 teeth to save the rest of my teeth . I use the same technology like Nikki had, In-Ovation C, which is similar to Damon technology, but that doesn't guarantee u not to extract teeth... my ortho told me so... but still, options are there... even tho ppl out there commenting why i wear braces in the first place bcoz they said my teeth are already nice... actually i just wanted to pull a bit my protruding teeth on the upper part... so by extracting teeth, gap will be like 8mm so that my teeth will move better compared to if i just install screw where the max gap will reach 5mm only... this is my case-lah... however, conditions may varies to diff patients... let our Dr. suggests the best for us... and based on that, we decide on how we want our teeth to be...

So no worries leng_leng... choice is urs... and dont be too scared... that u might stiff ur mouth muscle... just relax a bit n everything will be just fine... if u r too scared, just close ur eyes, dont even look at all the appliances. After that u wont realize that ur teeth are already being plucked... . I cud guarantee u, during extraction, u will discover no pain at all...

This post has been edited by white_tulip: Jan 13 2009, 11:15 AM

Heh i was kidding about serious definition ler... but when u mentioned about Dr. How looked serious... quite funny... hehehehe... but he is cute!

Yerp, i did see improvement... i did mine nearly end of Nov '08... as i told u before, i saw improvement a month after installing braces... showed it to other frens... they r so amazed with the changes... since alignment is not a prob, i hardly see another improvement other than the protruding tooth goes inwards... and the hole from extracted teeth getting smaller n smaller... but time to close its gap may take time... i'll wait patiently... we'll wait patiently...

Nikki, when r u going to extract ur teeth? next weekend? or u did it? if havent extracted yet, good luck hor...

Heh... they asked why wear braces if ur teeth arent that bad in condition... and u gonna extract 4 healthy teeth... why spend so much money for braces which u dont need it, yada yada yada... and the question goes on and on and onnnnn... asking not in a supportive manner but more to sarcastic way... well, im kinda immune with those questions now... n whenever i feel like quitting the conversation, i just say that i have so much money which i dont know where to spend at, so i made up my mind to put on braces... then i . so far it is enough to make my nosy frens shut their mouth... . im baaaadddd...

yeah, u shud...

I advise u to eat bfore extraction... bcoz after that u wont feel like eating due to the taste of anaesthetic chemical... and u gonna be busy standing in front of the mirror looking ur mouth to see the jelly-blood, the extraction hole... spitting and praying for the numbness feeling gone... all u know, u wanna sleep soonest possible...

This post has been edited by white_tulip: Jan 13 2009, 02:36 PM

Btw, jayyen, i have just visited ur blog... very good la u... created a special blog for ur braces journey... surely become the follower of ur blog... keep up the good effort ya!

This post has been edited by white_tulip: Jan 13 2009, 02:47 PM

I think ur Dr. decided to extract only 3 teeth due to the nature of ur current teeth... by extracting 1 on lower part is OK to make ur lower teeth symmetrical enough... good for u leng_leng...

So u only cabut 1... the numbness shudnt be that much...

The bleeding part... the blood is jelly-like or a normal blood? mine last time was jelly-like... maybe my ortho injected some chemical that make the blood "frozen" ... urmmm, try to eat/drink something cold for the time being... and nurse said dont spit too much bcoz it will trigger more blood to come out from the hole ( )... hope it works...

True true... exercise while having ur braces on wont harm u... but extra care is needed especially for activities that have contact with so many ppl and hard equipments...

But few days after extraction, just make sure u dont do any hard work especially lifting heavy stuff... mine, 3 days after extraction, i lifted a heavy box contains a bundle of books, then suddenly when i observed the hole in front of the mirror, i found out that the darah beku came out from my left hole... i cleaned it then things back to normal... just be careful ya...

This post has been edited by white_tulip: Jan 16 2009, 04:53 PM

Wow, damn expensive...

Usually the pain starts after anasthetic chemical has no longer effect... but the pain is bearable... the throbbing pain usually around ur mouth muscle near the extraction... but for some ppl, they had no pain at all... diff ppl have diff body condition... and how much ur body can endure the pain... it is all depends on individual...

Both my extraction hole are just like urs now... dark red in color... so i think its normal... it heals as day passes...

Unfortunately im not staying at Wangsa Maju area... but i have a fren who did her braces (but metal traditional one) at dental clinic near setiawangsa... u may check one of those clinics...

Installment payments have been discussed and detailed out on previous posts... u may check them... but diff clinics have diff price n payment practice, n diff type of braces too... u may contact ur dentist for further clarification... they will explain to u... good luck...

This post has been edited by white_tulip: Jan 19 2009, 09:20 AM

Really? Hrmmm... i think u can try to apply ulcer cream on that part during bedtime... who knows it works... leng_leng, bertahan ya...

Honestly, i do feel the same thing... when looking at the big holes, i wonder if those holes will close it gaps during the braces treatment... but looking at most successful cases and remember what my ortho did say, i believe that my braces will do their excellent job...

Extracting 4 healthy teeth is not an easy decision to make... i feel "pity" looking at my extracted teeth... they r sooOooo strong n healthy... but they have to "sacrifice" to save the rest of the teeth...

I thought im the only one doubt the decision made... martiolativo, ur not alone... i do encounter the same feeling as urs... . And i also believe our friends who did the extraction in this forum feel the same too...

Screw is installed to create spaces between teeth so that the rest of the teeth can move, align and fit themselves nicely... our ortho will decide whether we need to install screw, or extract a few teeth to create spaces... but there are cases where both extraction n installing screw need to be done on a patient... it is all depends on teeth conditions...

Other than that, the purpose of installing screw has been mentioned by nikki... so ur appt is today nikki? good luck ya

Urmmmm... if u extract lower jaw first, the gap wont be that visible bcoz it will be covered up by ur lower lips... but i believe during upper jaw extraction, the gap will be much visible... i always imagining myself smiling with those gaps on upper part... huarrrggggghhhhh dont like that scene

I dont know ur so mean leng_leng... heheheh... just kidding...
Btw, ur justification is good... but still, i feel pity for them... maybe i think too much

Hehe actually i have prepared that question to ask during my next extraction... but i found this answer from http://www.archwired.com/power_chains.htm

"How long does it take for the power chains and braces to close extraction gaps?
- Each person is different. Some people see dramatic changes in a few weeks. For others, it can take 6 months or more. Your orthodontist can measure (in millimeters) the width of your gaps at each appointment. You may be surprised to realize that the gaps are indeed closing, even if you don't see progress yourself!"

Hohoho... i pray so hard that after putting power chain, the gap will close faster...

This post has been edited by white_tulip: Jan 21 2009, 12:49 PM

Ya ya... i still remember one of ur post saying that u had ur power chain installed but since it is ceramic u dint see it... i still dont have power chain until now... might get it very soon i guess... who knows maybe Dr How will install power chain on my lower jaw during the 2nd extraction... since u said the power chain is so hardworking, now im lookign forward to have it

Hehehe thank you leng_leng for the encouragement... same goes to u ya...

Hehehe... this is one of the issue i'd been talking bfore... which annoyed me on previous post... i can understand ur feelings... the best thing is just to ignore then by smiling back to them showing our beautiful braces... hakhakhak...

Wow, u have finished ur second extraction... maybe the numbness ur feeling rite now is due to the extraction of 2 teeth... last time u have just extracted 1 teeth so the anaesthetic chemical wasnt that strong... congrats on ur 2nd extraction... next 2 weeks will be my turn...

Welcome to the club!

Anways,
Here goes my update...

I've done with my second extraction few days ago... it was 2 teeth on upper jaw... the extraction process was smooth and less numbness encountered... i wud say, blood came out heavier that last time... i slept early that nite after taking pain killer n anti-histamine... then the next day, blood stopped and things were just fine... thank God...

Separators have been removed... bite-stoppers are still there... its okay, i love my bite-stopper hahahha... and i had power chain installed on both front teeth... it feels a bit tight but im getting used to it... will see my ortho in a month time... my set of teeth has shown lotsa progress... again, thank God... cant wait to see more progress after this...

What about others? This forum is pretty quiet now... i bet everyone is busy...

This post has been edited by white_tulip: Feb 13 2009, 11:29 AM

Congrats on ur braces

I do brush in details in the morning... if i explain to u on how to brush teeth here, it might difficult for u to understand... i suggest u to find on how to brush ur braced teeth on youtube, as well as on any ortho site... u will get lotsa websites explaining on the proper brushing... i did surf lotsa website regarding it and it indeed, helped alot...

I remember the first few weeks with my braces on, i hardly chew any hard food including rice... i took lotsa pasta and so far macaroni is the easiest type of pasta to chew... i think bcoz of the structure... i made it fry, or soup... for example, in the soup, u can add add egg tofu, egg, or anything soft... its yummy! And also i found out that eating noodles are easier as compared to rice... if i wanted to eat rice, i bought that malay "mini nasi impit", usually malay community serve it during hari raya... boil it and eat with fish, chicken, crab yada yada as substitute for nasi... or etlis, i asked my mom to cook rice softer... and all type of noodle, kuey tiaw, mee hoon, mee etc are among food that is easy to chew n eat...

And as for fruits, i had to get it blended, or make it fresh juice... so far i did on apple, star fruit, mango... it was delicious... but fruit like banana, u can eat it directly... but remember to cut it into small chunk, then chew slowly... and as for vege, u can cook it softer... no problem at all... porridge is good too... but i cudnt stand eating porridge day n nite... and nowadays upon hearing McD chicken porridge, i feel like uwekkk... ekekkeke... i did consume lotsa porridge during those days hahahahhahaha...

But after a month plus, u can start eating harder food like burger, fries, nugget, etc... no harm... just dont forget to cut it into smaller pieces and eat slowly n carefully... things will be just fine... dont worry...

I believe in few weeks u will start adjusting urself with braces inside ur mouth... without u realize u can chew and feel as if nothing inside ur mouth... bcoz ur getting used to it...

During work, usually i buy breakfast consist of any type of noodles... as i said, noodles are easy to chew... sometimes i bring porridge from home... sometimes i just buy bread/biscuits and eat with hot milo or tuna spread/peanut butter/nutella (nyum nyum)... if u feel bread/biscuits are a bit hard to chew, dip in hot drink until it soft, then eat lorrr... or instant oats... or bring blended fruits i prepared nite bfore... or sometimes i just buy papaya... or whenever i wanna eat outside, i always order meehoon/kuetiaw kungfu/ladna/fried... or pasta/lasagna at fast food restaurant... anything soft, chewable which can fill up my empty stomach... but thank God nowadays i can eat fried rice, KFC, McD, etc... then after work, i rush home and eat home made cooking... just be creative and frequently change food so that u wont get bored... and try to eat food that u think u can chew... then add it in food-i-can-eat list... to ur surprise, ur list will become longer and longer...

U will get used to it leng_leng... dont worry... n do have fun eating so many foods with braces on! Just dont forget to brush/clean teeth after meal ya...

I brush my teeth at workplace just like i brush at home... and for that, yes, i do bring toothbrush... i have 2 sets of toothbrush n toothpaste, 1 set at home n another one is in the office...

Yeah, fruit juice is yummy! Hehehe...

Btw, my braces is In-Ovation Type C... it works exactly the same way as Damon but the major diff is it is less visible bcoz it is ceramic one... mine is the same bracket as what Nikki had...

Yeah... the cost is a bit high... my ortho quoted me RM6.5K...

I cudnt say pain, but the tight feeling... yes, it is normal... usually for me the tightness feeling last 3-4 days only... sometimes it feels so tight the moment i left clinic after monthly appointment... sometimes the tightness feeling came 2-3 days after that... once a while, one of those teeth feel a bit pain especially during chewing food... but 2-3 days after that, the pain is gone... it doesnt cause me major pain at all... so far so good... but few days after braces is installed, i developed mouth ulcer... i think most of us face the ulcer prob at the beginning... but after applying ulcer cream and put dental wax on poking wire, ur inside mouth will "immune" and gets tougher to the brackets and ulcer problem wud definitely gone...

Ahahahhaha... im getting expert nowadays Nikki... know what, after next week it will be my 3 months with braces on

Nikki is right... dental kit will be part of ur life now... my bf did send me a 2 bouquet of flower and one of it together with a lovely pocket mirror as for braces gift... he is so sweet

My bracket loose 2 times before i had my bite-stopper... according to the ortho, bracket loose and broken wire are 2 common cases... but exactly after doc put the bite-stopper, i dont face any loose bracket anymore... thats why i said i love my bite-stopper... hehehhe... thank you Nikki

Simply love my braces... and the feeling grows stronger day by day...

U can try to ask ur nurse about it... usually orthodontic clinics sell those thing... otherwise, u can get it from other ortho clinic, or pharmacy... im sure they sell it...

Bite stopper? Urmmm... ur ortho will check ur teeth whether they touch ur bracket when u clench ur teeth especially during bed time... if they touch, then ur ortho will glue small bite stopper at upper jaw... it creates space between upper n lower jaw... so that teeth from both jaws wont touch each other... once bite stoppers are installed, u will find it hard to eat because of the gap created by the bite stopper... but somehow i love bite stopper... i wont worry about loosen my brackets... and since the bite stopper is hard, i can simply bite food with it... hahhaha...

Hope u get the idea...

Hrmmm... if im not mistaken, i installed my braces a month after u... or 2? cant remember... i did it somewhere 20+ of Nov 08... but i still remember Ronnie asked u, why u got urs 6K but he did about the same month with u, he got RM6.5K... i dont know how Dr How quoted that one...

But In-Ovation Type C (ceramic) is 8K is way too expensive... mizzglamour, maybe u can try the other ortho...