Cheaper? i'm using InOvationC. Mine is more expensive than Damon 3.
Doctor says its same result also. I've been wearing for 9 months plus already. I see movement after 2 months. Then major movements.
After about 4-5 months, my teeth are straight already. Just that i hav to close gaps cos i removed 4 teeth.
Since if u no need to remove, then should be very fast.

The different? same technology just different branding. Inovation C... C= ceramic. So If ceramic, the look will be different, as in not so obvious lo...

From the clinic i went to, InOvation is more expensive than Damon for RM200. But however, if same price, i will go for InOvation C also. Cos of the ceramic = transparency. As i'm working already. So i feel not nice to show too much metals.

Haha,,, So thats why i rather pay extra RM200 for ceramics.

i dont think u can simply change... When u few thousands, the payment is to buy the brackets sets. Once u decide on the type of system, u cant change already. IF u want, probably u have to pay for a few more thousand to buy the new brackets set.

Hmm.... yup. But its okla. There are a lot of ppl still choose the metal system over ceramic system ma.
Which doctor/ clinic u went to? and how much is ur treatment?

Hi..i know wat u mean and ur worries... I would say dont worry. It happens to me that way too. I dont see result in my first month, i was so inpatient...but at the end of my second month, i can see the difference edy. Dont even need to compare pix also i realise the changes.

And about the 'once a while pain'. Yah, thats right. I have the same experience also... Its normal. Dont be too worried whether it will pain or not pain. Pain happens for a reason. Just remember that... Pain means movements. U will feel better that way. And its true, the pain only happen for 3 days. After that wont be any pain. And that pain duration actually allows ur teeth to move.

U will be amazed how the pain can switch place cos bit by bit the teeth are moving. R u Dr. How's patient? IF yes, i would advise u that to trust wat Dr. How told u. IF he told u 'thats fine', it will be fine. I'm not sure abt other doctor. But as Dr. How's patient and my experience with him so far. I really trust him. Initially i hav lots of worries also. Always with lots of questions to ask Dr. How

Like when my gum bleeds, i ask him how, or then i feel uncomfortable with, power chain, my extractions, growing wires, bite stopper were crushed cos i too ganas... and more. He will always advice me what i should and should not worry.

My progress so far has been great. Even the lubang where i extracted my teeth also closing quite soon. Somemore i worried so much that the lubang will be there for long. Now not anymore...only the lower jaw lubang on the left is a bit slow... mayb my gum stubborn...

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Added on July 23, 2009, 11:50 pmbite stopper problem ya? I had pronunciation problem even before having bite stopper.. first month i cant pronounce 'braces' and i always whistle due to the braces in mouth. the bite stopper thing, depends on situation. Guess what? i still have half of the stopper with me until now.

why half? hmmm.... usually we should have 2 right? Left and Right. But my right stopper were crushed after one week. Then the left stopper remain until now. But bit by bit its disappearing also. Cos i grind my teeth in my sleep.

Event tho one side gone and imbalance bite, but Dr. how says... "It's ok"

hahahah

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I can survive with it cos like i said, i only hav half of the stopper right now. Its almost gone already actually. The other side totally gone. Of course i can eat, bite and chew. My both left and right also can touch even with bite stopper there now... i also dunno why. Mayb cos nothing much left there....

Damon also got ceramic system. But my doctor say thru his experience, he thinks damon ceramic is not as good compared to Innovation C.
But for metal, both are same.

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Added on July 25, 2009, 9:48 am(Innovation is another brand. Different than Damon. Dont confuse urself.




Wax to avoid poking? ya... i rely on the wax very much also.

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hahaha...u better dont try. Hehehe... if doctor put the stopper there, i'm sure its for ur own good lo. Maybe just check how long it has to be there lo... then just bear with is a little? No choice la right, for beauty ma.

Just be glad u dont have to install screws and fix ur gum like i did only.

ya...i have the screws same like Ken. My teeth are actually bad. But main reason for me to hav those screws is bcos i have gummy smile. shows lots of gum. So doctor installed these screws to minimize the gum from showing. Which now has improved a lot.

My face shape totally changed. Become smaller. I showed my picture b4 braces to my new colleagues, they see the big different also. I look different now, some ex colleague took some time to recognize me... Like as if i did plastic surgery.

Other than that, i think my lips become thinner compared to last time.

And about ur cost for InOvation-C is definitely not expensive. Mine was 6k. That was last year and the cost doesnt include x-ray, moulding and all....

Yes, i still have those separator in between my teeth until now. it didnt bother me too much so i didnt complaint to doctor also lo. It wasn't that painful to me also. Dont worry, If u feel pain its normal. Didnt feel pain also is normal cos each individual pain tolerant level are different. Some ppl can feel extreme pain. So just be glad it wasnt too painful for u.

Even if pain also dont too worry la, just remind urself that pain means movements. Patient a bit k? First few month are the greatest cos u can see movements. After that nothing much liao. Like me, i stop taking pictures also cos not much to see. Just closing gaps only.

U're right... wisdom tooth extraction are depending on different cases.
RM60 is normal grown wisdom tooth. MEaning, its grown nicely in position. Then u can extract that with cheaper price.

Those that u heard few hundreds ones are involving surgery. Usually lower jaws. The tooth cant grow normally in position, not enuff space or worst case, rot in ur gum. That, u hav to do surgery. Usually RM600 per tooth.

Why not try another clinic?
See what can be done for ur wisdom tooth and just try ur luck and see if can get cheaper price?
If u found any, let me know? i need to get rid of my wisdom tooth also...kakaka but too poor, no money to do if too ex.

I didnt keep my teeth. The nurse gave me back but i threw it away. I feel even more painful when i look at it...hahaha

Burial??? Hahaha...i tot u would keep it in a treasure box. Hehehe

huh?
my wire wont move want wor... how long has this been happening?

I guess Coffee and tea are alright. Just beware of discoloring ur braces lo. However, My experience so far with coffee and tea are alright. Even with curry also wont discolor the brackets. Cos its made of ceramic. It wont discolor. But however, u can try to avoid curry or tea or coffee and other strong coloring food if u have any rubber band and powerchain on. Cos those rubbers can get discolored very easily.

And ur question abt whether will ur braces fall off easily? The braces wont fall off. Maybe, the brackets will. And that also depends on individual. It can be caused by forcing when u eat hard and chewy food. When u force ur teeth too much, the brackets may fall. Another factor would be when the glue is not doing its job. When the glue are lose, ur brackets may fall... So, dont brush ur teeth too hard, u may brush out ur brackets also...

Hmm...are u sure? Maybe its the glue... Otherwise, Are u using the whitening toothpaste?

I think only doctor can tell u which is better. Eventho i'm a InOvation wearer, i cant judge which is better. Cos i havent use damon before. And those damon user havent use InOvation before.

Both InOvation and Damon are same just different brand. About extraction, that also let ur doctor to decide. They dont simply extract ur teeth for no reason. If ur jaw are really small, u hav no choice but to extract. Its like, how can u fit 50 pax in one car? Definately u need to shift out some. Get it?

The advertisement will obviously tells u NO NEED to extract. Just like Skin care products that promises u fine skin. And in fact, how many of these products really work what they claimed?

Conclusion is get professional help for professional products.

PS: I'm an InOvation C user. I've been on braces since 4th October. I sacrificed 4 healthy teeth for this treatment. It's been 10 months now and i love the result. It hardly give ulcer like other ppl did. InOvation C are ceramic and almost transparent.

OMG karyn... my eyes opened so wide when i read u crushed ur bite stopper... hahaha... Okla, if u didnt do it on purpose. Dont crush everything oh... or else doctor will put new stopper on ur teeth. hehehe...

8th week means 2 months? Hmm... maybe ur crowding case not as serious as mine that why havent seen any obvious result? As for my case, i saw movement on my 8th week. Those movements are mainly my in-out and bengkang bengkok teeth... my teeth were overly messy. And by the 8th week, i see those in-out ones slowly moved in to join the rest edy.

Give it a bit more time la. Or else, just tell doctor when u see him next. Always talk to him like ur friend la... can also ask him, "Dr, how come my teeth so stubborn?" See what he say?

That day i asked doctor about my extracted lubang. Cos one of the lubang closing very slow. So Dr explains to me...but i dont quite understand also . But its okla, at least i highlighted the situation to him...Next visit if still not closing, i wil ask him to do something. hehehhee