yalor..loosen then the teeth will hav space to move... As when the teeth are being push inward, the frontal teeth will hav more loose space...

that girl ah? i forgot her log in id wor.,,,i will try to back track her...then let u know...kakkaa

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Added on May 13, 2009, 11:47 ami think so is white_tulip

kakakkaa

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: May 13 2009, 11:47 AM

yah, its already glued to our teeth... but dunno why her glue didnt hold the brackets well enuff... so her brackets always fall off...
then finally when doctor re-glue for her, then she ok liao

mine also no problem... i think different ppl different situation lo...

ya wei, 7 teeth sound scary... but if that including wisdoms...thats fine i think...

about the spacer.s..no worries... its pain cos its tight... give it a few days then it will be fine already. I still have spacers at my lower jaw...

The wire at the end are getting even longer..... poking me like mad..

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The wire at the end are getting even longer..... poking me like mad..

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That's mean your result is getting better..

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I think so kua... hopefully le..

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Added on May 18, 2009, 10:00 am[quote=leng_leng,May 17 2009, 01:00 AM]
dear why dont u go to your doc and ask him to cut for u leh?

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Added on May 17, 2009, 1:02 am
wah 7 teeth ah?!? sounds scary though.. when i put my separator is kinda pain cos the tightness..no strenght to chew.. I put 2 only so it's bearable la..after some days it become less pain d.. putting 8 would be more pain i guess

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Cos i lazy to go to the clinic. kakaka...

Before this, i had 8 separator at my lower jaw. Then now left back 4... hahaha...Cos cabut teeth edy, no need put tat many inside.

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: May 18 2009, 10:00 AM

Just came back from appt. Dr changed my wire to thicker ones. Its 0.18 if i'm not wrong. Other than that, the rubberband (Used to be road runner but now is bear) are getting thicker too.

Immediately i get the tight feeling which i like cos i know the teeth will move very soon. Fortunately it wasnt painful today when doctor changed my powerchains. So it was a pleasant visit today.

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: May 20 2009, 08:54 AM

Lenglui or not? If not lenglui means not.

Just joking. But really not me. Cos my appt was on Tuesday morning.

Wow...i feel so flattered. I only know, soon i will be lenglui when i complete my treatment. hehehe... i think i still have around 11mths to go? Yesterday, Dr How say that i'm less gummy now...hehehe

So nice, can go Bali. Have a safe trip!

Honestly, in the beginning, i will brush whenever after meal. Soon, i just gargle.
Now, i dont brush anymore. I have a mirror, toothpicks with me and korek the food out from being visible only....

*Don't laugh...i know it sounded disgusting...

When i go out makan with friends, i will sometimes stuff my finger in my mouth to adjust the dental wax or my tongue will glide my teeth and etc... I know its not a very pleasant sight to look at. But i do it in the washroom, or bend down under the table and all la... Try not to let ppl see. Other than that, actually my friends and family all use to it and people around me understand my action. So they will tolerate me also.

To be honest, if u need to brush in the office. Its totally alright. Afterall, its good manner to brush after u eat. Rather than having food stuck at ur teeth right or not? I'm sure your colleagues would understand. Dont worry my dear, its not weird or strange at all. I'm sure they rather u using the toilet to brush teeth than seeing food stuck at ur teeth.

In my ex-company, some account managers also practice to brush teeth after lunch. Cos these are the people to represent the company to see clients. So they have to hav a good image. They even floss in the office ok?

Does all above makes you feel better? Dont worry la my dear. Every time after makan, u just bring out ur mirror to check ur smile. If u see food stuck in between teeth, just quickly go washroom and gargle to get rid of it first. Toothpicks are very useful. So have it with you. Then only go back office to brush lo. Other than that, avoid Fried rice and chilli stuffs lo... Hope these helps

Hahaha...dont worry la. Maybe later your colleagues respect you more because of that and soon they start to brush also? There is nothing weird about brushing teeth in office la. You're not picking your nose or picking your toe nails in office also... Be cool with it.

Yes, why not? That's what happened to me.

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Added on May 25, 2009, 9:11 amYah, i agree with you that not many pharmacies are selling the ortho brush. Fortunately, the Guardian in Desa Sri Hartamas got. So, i just buy from there as its near to my work place. When i buy, i will stock up a few la. Cos we destroys the brush very easily, plus its not easy to find it everywhere...

Btw, just wanna share this, for those who are looking for the mini bristle (to clean in between brackets and teeth), u can get it from Daiso at the curve. RM5 for a pack of 4 or 5 bristles. Check it out. Cos if u get from watson's or guardian, it will be damn expensive...

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Added on May 25, 2009, 9:13 amIs it really cheaper to get the brush from the clinic? I'm not sure. I only got my first set from the clinic. Then after that, i bought from outside. I bought mine for RM7++ for my ortho brush. What about you?

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: May 25 2009, 09:13 AM

aiks...i'm not using the electric. I'm using the old school manual ortho brush. Anyway, abt the mini brush i mentioned that u can get from Daiso. Its called interdental brush. I've attached a picture.



This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: May 27 2009, 09:45 AM

Mine was 6k for InOvation C from Dr. How. Since you have doubt for your current orthodontist, why not consult another doctor? I have to extract 4 teeth also even with InOvation C. Cos Dr says i have too many teeth for my small gum. So have to extract few to push everything in.

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Added on May 27, 2009, 9:39 amWhat u see is what u get. hahaha.... I dunno what u mean by brush head. Cos this mini brush are in that size... small.
Its just for you to get rid of dirt in between brackets only. Didnt u get this from your clinic?>

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: May 27 2009, 09:39 AM

Hi there,
Its not necessary to get them. But honestly, using only normal manual brush wont be enuff. Initially, i was a bit lazy to use these mini brush (interdental brush) also. But i realise, normal brushes cant reach some area due to the brackets and wire blocking. So these mini brush will be useful. Its like those brush where people use to clean milk bottle. It can reach some area that other brushes cant. But these mini brushes are very small.

It can reach the hidden area to clean out dirt and also to prevent plague from forming.
See attached picture to see how it works..



This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: May 28 2009, 08:18 AM

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Added on May 28, 2009, 9:10 am[quote=leng_leng,May 27 2009, 08:54 PM]

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Added on May 27, 2009, 9:39 am
What u see is what u get. hahaha.... I dunno what u mean by brush head. Cos this mini brush are in that size... small.
Its just for you to get rid of dirt in between brackets only. Didnt u get this from your clinic?>

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wut i bought one is oral B brand, the brush is longer one..blue in color one...very normal interdental brush where guardian or watson are selling it also.. the brush head can be taken out and changed one. So normally I buy the refill one lor.. You are not using this meh dear? Think this week i will be heading to Daiso to get this cute brush then!

ah i found the photo of it d!
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Hey babe, i'm not using the type tat u mention (picture) wor... My one very short wan... almost similar with the pictures i attached. My first set was from Dr. How's clinic... Dun remember the brand name but i think its a japanese brand? I remember one senior here who she attached pictures of all the dental kits she's been using. Mine is the same as hers.

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Added on May 28, 2009, 9:11 am[quote=ysbabe,May 28 2009, 04:29 AM]
hi kentcp,

i'm new to this and I am planning to put braces. Am in my thirties and want something less visible and not so torturing (haha).

i noticed that u highly recommend Dr How. See, I am not a very kan-cheong person in terms of braces (haha). Don't mind slower progress but less pain and torture, so I've been hearing that Dr How is known for speeding up the process by fixing stop bites, teeth spacers, power chains, screws etc etc, which sounds like real torture to me. I just want normal ortho help to straighten my teeth, if with all these extra help, it take less than 2 years to complete, I wouldn't mind waiting another 1/2 year to go without the extra gadgets added. Do you think Dr How will accommodate this?

My assumption is most of Dr How's patients are either in their teens or early twenties, so they are rather comfortable with quicker results, never minds the pain, but since I am already in my mid thirties, I don't mind waiting extra half a year or so, if it's less painful

What do you think? Or have you heard of other good orthodontists out there?

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Sorry to interrupt.
Actually, i believe that you've been reading a lot from this thread. Cos you mentioned the things that we discussed earlier.

Well actually i understand your concern about visibility and the pain accrue. I think newer system should cause less pain + fast and good result. Compared to the traditional ones, Besides its time consuming, its so visible, painful and it might not give u the best results. Thats is why most doctor recommended Damon and InOvation systems.

MAster Kentcp is using Damon and myself is using InOvation. According to Doctor, these two are the same. Gives same results, same effect, same speed... Just different brand. But InOvation comes with ceramic bracket (InOvation C), which is transparent. The fact that its transparent, u wont look so mouthful with metals/gadgets...whatever u call it.

About the extra process that some of us did such as extraction, bite stopper, screws, powerchain... Some process are necessary no matter which doctor u go to or which system u will be using. But however, some will be optional. For example; Screws. Its an option for me. But i chose to get it although it sounded scary. Cos i want the bestest result and since that i'm already spending this much money and time for the treatment.

My dear, its not that painful like u think. Many ppl around me give me a face when they see me adding more and more stuffs into my mouth. If its not painful, that will be a BIG LIE. But, the pain will go away in 3-7 days. After that, u wont feel anything anymore. Before i had braces, i had this horrible image for wearing braces. Such as pain 24/7 - 365 days. Ulcers all over....ew... But to be honest, i only got a few ulcer so far throughout my treatment. In fact, i'm getting it less compared to the time before wearing braces.

Oh well...anyway...good luck!


This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: May 28 2009, 09:11 AM

Actually, i saw ppl wearing different types of ceramic braces. One of my colleague, is wearing ceramic but hers are different than mine from the way it looks. I didnt ask what is the name of it la. But its transparent. Her brackets are bigger than mine but lesser visible than mine. Ok, give u a clearer image. Her braces looks like this. http://ceramicbraces.blogspot.com/

And in comparison with mine, picture attached.


And if i'm not wrong, my colleague's type takes longer time for treatment. Probably that's the easily break type? I'm not sure. I've been wearing mine since 4th Oct 2008. I havent had any problem with my brackets/braces. Whether i's suffering more pain? Arh....dunno...who can answer that? Unless for those who tried both type of braces before can answer. Haha..but doctor didnt said both braces are the same, just different brands. Actually we discussed b4 that Damon also got ceramic brackets. But it is not recommended by our doctor compared to InOvation.

About duration and extraction, I believe this depends on your condition, right?

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Added on May 29, 2009, 9:05 am3M? wow....mind to share some pictures? I'm curious.

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Added on May 29, 2009, 9:10 amFinally you're back...hehehe... Kangaroo? Is it thicker than Bear? currently using Bear. Already i tot its quite thick. Metal wire to tighten? I wonder how it look like too? Does it by any chance look like those i saw from http://ceramicbraces.blogspot.com/ ???

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: May 29 2009, 09:10 AM

Nonono...that' not my colleague's blog. The blog belongs to someone from singapore. Yes, her brackets are different than mine. Yah, i agree with you. The pain caused by my braces is not that bad... Not like other ppl complaint about.

I love my braces too... i think they're cool. Hehehe... some of my guy friends told me they are cool too. So i'm not shy at all to show them off....hahaha

[quote=nishie,May 30 2009, 09:20 PM]Try this link. You'll see the clear image of 3M clarity braces.

http://www.parisiortho.com/selfligating.php

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saw the link already... Hmmm...really is different compare to mine... I cant believe that there are soooooo many types of braces. B4 i wear braces, i tot its only one type. Until i started to survey for clinics, then i came across this thread, i read all the replies in this thread then only i found out there are sooo many types.

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Added on June 3, 2009, 5:58 pm[quote=Babypearl,May 30 2009, 01:08 PM]
yea...previously was using bear at lower teeth...nowchange to thicker ones called kangaro..*jump *jump...and the metal wire...i also duno how to describe...looks like metal spring?..tak tau la...at the side of my teeth...got ulcer dy...gah...argh...geez...y the gap take so slow to close...geez...shrugz...

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Added on May 30, 2009, 1:09 pm
hahaha.. must enjoy life fullest ma.. 上山下海 all must try ! Join my activity la.. I will post the event at FB.

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Added on May 28, 2009, 10:04 pm

As i was extracted 2 teeth on upper right side during kids time... during this bracing process, i no need to extract any teeth for upper and lower teeth. I installed on Jan 2008, Dr said i should able to remove around aug time. Now, every teeth is straight , just doing some minor fine adjustment.

Yup, Inovation-C much better in terms of aesthetics in comparison to damon because it is transparent ceramic while Damon is using titanuim material. To me, i can accept damon because it is smaller than transditional braces. also, the material also look good (silver shine). Anyhow, Damon Q is even smaller.. technology..

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----no money laaaa...how to enjoy......u one year duno go how many vacation..looks like evry month, every week also got activity ones...i seldom login fb ler...lazy......so many things in there...see until i headache......

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Is it true that the metal wire thing that u mentioned, are only used when u are almost finishing ur treatment? As in to fix it a bit here and there. Then soon u'll be free from braces?

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: Jun 3 2009, 05:58 PM

Representing everyone here, we welcome you to join the bracesian group. Hehehe... So, how do u feel now?> Its not as bad as u think it would be right? I think the glue-ing and installation process takes about 1hr like that?

The nurse should have taught you how to brush. Well, if u're using the manual brush, just angle ur brush abit la. As in u brush left-right motion but angle ur brush. 45 degrees above brackets and 45 degrees below brackets. That's how the nurse taught me. I dunno why Leng_leng's method is different than mine. However, just by this method, it wont clean too well yet. You still need interdental brush to clean in between each teeth, gaps, wire, brackets... Did the nurse give you the interdental brush too? If no, pls refer post #950 for picture of interdental brush.

As for the your case with wisdom tooth, take good care of them. Dont let them rot or be infected. Cos they're life span is very short. If they rot or couldnt get out from your gum, u still have to extract them. Only whether is normal extraction or operation. IF they grow nicely out of the gum in good position, u can extract them normally without operation. But if they're stubborn and prefer to remain in your gum, then u hav to opt for operation. And bare in mind, operation is not cheap.

To Leng_leng:
You bought the brushes edy? cheap right> compared to what u can get outside...Actually, sometimes they will hav in different sizes wan...

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: Jun 4 2009, 10:35 AM