Guys, I'm in the midst of having hard choice between these two cars, used BMW X1 sDrive 20i and New Mazda CX 5 2.2 D. Would like to take these 3 factors into consideration, i) driving experience
ii) maintenance cost
iii) fuel consumption
Little bit of background of me, 26 year old with a nett salary of 9k, not much commitment at this moment. Appreciate if you guys could help me out! Peace yo

as a general rule new car > used car.
rule does not apply it ur a gear head or a mechanic.

because it's hassle free?

yes hassle free if buy new.
well not really hassle free but chances of getting a new car as a lemon is way less than getting used car.
buying used car is all about luck and most of the time its not in your favor.

Yup, I kinda of agree with you on this! Yet I'm thinking to get a BMW because the used BMW X1 s20i does come with the BSRI too. BMW is known for its ultimate driving experience and Mazda is known for its good handling and driving experience =D .

This post has been edited by jason_ng101: Sep 6 2018, 02:28 PM

cx5 have 3 years free service and 5 years warranty.

you can get bmw if it still in free service and still have warranty

well ur still single without commitments.
we all were young once so if you are keen on getting the BMW, go for it.
follow your dream while you still can bcs once you have a family the time of following dream is over.

but my advice is to test drive both cars before making a decision.

remember there is no wrong or right decision as long you are happy.

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Sep 6 2018, 02:56 PM

yup, exactly but I'm just worried about the maintenance cost for BMW after the warranty period

Thank you for your kind advice! Will definitely look into it before making any decision hehe

Mazda diesel for sure

The x1 is okay powered , it will get to where you need but that's about it ,

The cx5 diesel, that's sleeper powered.

how about the new toyota harrier?

Thanks for the reply. What do you mean by sleeper powered of mazda cx5 5 diesel turbo? I kind of like the bmw twin turbo (F30) but never had a chance to test drive the twin scrol turbo and mazda 2.2 diesel turbo :/

This post has been edited by jason_ng101: Sep 6 2018, 11:34 PM

The new toyota harrier is already overbudget for me unless you mean the grey import one. It's a bit underpower but quite a spacious and comfortable car. Unless you opt for the new 2.0 Turbo harrier then it's a different story 😅

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX43sblzUTM

watch this..

I already watched this once but the cx5 shown in the video is the 2.5L n/a. Thanks tho!

If you have to choose between a BMW X1 and cx5, think no further and place your money on the X1. 192hp vs 173hp is no brainer. Bmw has better tuning in terms of power delivery and smoothness. Handling hands down. I can tell you those who recommend Mazda has never owned a bmw before. Probably only did a few test drives and that’s about it. You will never go wrong with a bmw if you are comparing to a Mazda. Maintenance for a bmw is nothing to be afraid of as long you are buying new from AD. Just service as scheduled and it will serve you a good 5-7 years. Don’t listen to those bmw haters because what they are telling you is from their experience of owning a used bmw. Never buy a used European car. You never know how it was thrashed or what cheapo parts they replaced that’s why they always break down. Just stay with a AD for all your servicing and you will be fine.

This post has been edited by puffyballzzz: Sep 7 2018, 12:02 AM

Go for cx5. Mine has been nothing but perfect. You will sure appreciate its warranty and free service. It drives well, fuel efficient and powerful.

Also do try out the new harrier. It cost slightly more than a X1 but comfort and resale value of a harrier is something to think about.

The overall build quality of Mazda is on par with BMW, somehow even better.

2.5L is less power and less fun comparing to 2.2D. and fuel consumption for 2.2D is much better!

I do drive the family car, F30 328i Msport occasionally, although it's not to the latest twin scroll turbo engine but the performance is impressive. I'm not looking at the new X1 s20i as it's out of my budget but the used X1 at year 2015-2016. Any advice on this ? As for the warranty period, it left only 3 years of free maintenance and warranty (BSRI), I'm concerned about the maintenance cost after the warranty period 😅

I have heard the same and quite a number of positive feedback from the existing cx5 users 😁

Yup, 2.2 D win hands down in term of the power and fuel consumption! More power and less fuel consumption 😊

It has a lot more power than it looks

Because of the 2.2D 420Nm of torque, you can easily smoke many saloon cars when driving uphill to Genting... Lol!

New batch might even come with the upgraded diesel

190 hp from 178 and 450nm from 420

If you are still single, no child, not much commitment, just go with your heart, get the BMW X1 (with warranty, and within your capability of course ),
make sure no regret in future !!!


when reaching marriage status then talk about cost saving car issue, and then get the cx5 in the end.........

Buying a 2 years old BMW with 3 years of BSRI left is going to be expensive. You may as well top up for a new BMW and enjoy 5 years of BSRI. The difference in purchase price isn't all burnt as you get back more second hand value when you sell. The difference may be worth the peace of mind if you can afford to buy new.

Bear in mind most continental cars have parts which are built to last 5 years so be prepared to have hefty repair bills when the BSRI expires. That's why it's better to buy new and sell off after 5 years.

If buying a new BMW is out of your budget I would advise going for the new Mazda as the more prudent choice. But if your heart is set on driving a BMW then go for it and hope for the best.

If you're driving mainly in urban areas with lots of jams and stop/start traffic or short distances, please just avoid the 2.2D cx5.

Courting trouble after 3 years because the DPF isn't designed for this kind of traffic. Yes, warranty is 5 years, with 3 years free service on the mazda. But please read about DPF issues before sinking money in.

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Sep 7 2018, 04:48 PM

My 1.5 year old skyactiv D has only seen 16000 km because always in city

Still no problems with DPF.

Is it true that the new batch of cx5 will come with the upgraded engine ? I got informed that the new batch of cx 5 will come with the optional so powerboot with additional of 2k 😅

You have got a good point there! Haha 😁

Actually I plan to keep the car for at least a period of 7 years time :/ I'm just concerned that the maintenance can cost a bomb once it is out of the warranty 😅

Well, I would definitely spend most of the time driving around the small town and on a highway. The traffic won't be congested compared to the town /city But majority of the trips are short distance unless I travel on a highway. Guess it should be alright ?

I thought I read somewhere or from Bobby Ang youtube video saying that the Mazda diesel engine uses low compression configuration so it can avoid using DPF ?

It will quietly , eventually they will stop the older engine

Because that engine already sold as the one diesel spec for cx8, cx5 and mazda 6

When GVC was launched, we got it within the year or two if not mistaken

https://m.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=276&t=5564061

Mazda diesel engine issue in Taiwan, now Mazda official announced solution like Honda China, Subaru did...

DPF issues won't arise that quickly, but it likely will eventually down the road. Just a matter of early or later.

If really want a diesel engined car with DPF, please at least do a 30 minute highway run weekly, so that the DPF can regenerate passively from the heat of the engine running. Slow speed/idling can't regenerate the DPF because exhaust heat not sufficient. So DPF system will activate active regeneration mode and will inject more diesel post combustion so that the flame front will propagate further down the exhaust stream towards the DPF canister.

The problem is that many people don't know that the car is in active regeneration mode and turn off the car mid point. So the diesel that didn't get burned off will accumulate in the DPF canister. The system is designed that any such diesel accumulating in the DPF will flow back into the engine crankcase sump (that's why you see 2 levels in the oil dip stick for diesel cars with DPF; the lower "full" level for engine oil change volume indicator, and the other for "overflow" capacity). Recommended that the dip stick got checked bi-weekly to ascertain the level of overflow.

Yes, the system does warn you when the overflow needs your attention with some check engine light or other sorts. But the critical thing is that when engine oil gets diluted with diesel fuel, the lubrication properties get compromised. You'll wearing down the internals prematurely (mostly will arise in VVT issue or cylinder bore scuffing). And even if that you're aware of how the DPF works and drives long distance most of the time, the DPF will get filled up with ash. When it is full, you'll need to spend close to thousands (i don't really know the price, but seeing how overseas pricing, it is usually 2k), to replace it. Our diesel fuel quality isn't up to european level, so expect the ash to fill up sooner. Hence also, mazda will insist their diesel owners to solely pump euro5 diesel.

The issue is well known in europe, but kept "in control" because their rate of car swapping is much faster than us because of their high income and financing terms. Their cars will be sold off before it becomes an issue to them in the longer run (which we in malaysia tend to keep more than 5 years).

It is a flawed way to keep pollutants in check, but due to the majority's quick car change, the issue is not overblown yet....

THe only saving grace is our climate is rather warm, heat up is a little faster.

Particulate filters are mandotory, even petrol cars will have it in the foreseeable future.

The difference with mazda is that they can avoid AdBlue (urea injection) due to the lower compression.

This one is nothing too serious, some risk of coolant overflow due to the plumbing design.

im own X1 and XV compare the handling X1 win even XV is AWD car

I have both CX5 and a 5 series. Reliability of a Japanese car is definitely better than a continental that's for sure.Used to own a Camry too. If want less headache, go for Japanese.

Wow 9k considering a Beemer. I only dare to own one when my salary is >20k nonthly. Take note BMW warranty does not cover wear and tear. Disc and pad one pair is 2-3k so bear in mind to have some provision still for maintenance

This post has been edited by kkkw80: Sep 8 2018, 12:10 PM

The problem has been solved in Mazda, our group has about 10 diesel users , no issues still.