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Looking for Opinions, Legal Case for water leaking issues
Looking for Opinions, Legal Case for water leaking issues
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Jul 14 2019, 12:07 AM
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Jul 15 2019, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(woolei @ Jul 13 2019, 11:50 PM) Just because we can afford it doesnt mean we spend when we dont have to.Sorry I get sick of those comment which basically says "U can afford it ma, pay on my behalf as well lor". If its obviously the fault of the unit above, I dont see why they (and the JMB) should be left off the hook just cause the victim "can afford it". This post has been edited by MeToo: Jul 15 2019, 10:31 AM |
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Jul 15 2019, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 15 2019, 10:30 AM) Just because we can afford it doesnt mean we spend when we dont have to. u dont want to fix it by yourselfSorry I get sick of those comment which basically says "U can afford it ma, pay on my behalf as well lor". If its obviously the fault of the unit above, I dont see why they (and the JMB) should be left off the hook just cause the victim "can afford it". u dont want to spend time go to court for justice (sue jmb / owner) ur JMB ignore your case and i agreed they suck ur neighbour upstair just ignore your request, they are suck too but what you can do next?? LOL you got few options: -fix it by urself -go to KPKT Court -change JMB, make yourself as a committee, best is chair man pick one or your case will never ever move |
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Jul 15 2019, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Aug 29 2018, 01:18 AM) You are in the right: This is true.. not everyday is a sunshine for everyone..but sometimes you may want to be a bit sympathetic to the owner upstair. Depend how genuine his "financial problem"... sigh. Difficult to say what is the best thing to do. Some might b heavily indebted |
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Jul 15 2019, 10:49 PM
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This is the -ve abt highrise...
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Jul 19 2019, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(woolei @ Jul 5 2019, 11:59 AM) Hi Guy, hi boss.....wonder if anyone still followed my case. but i have successfully close the case via KPKT Putrajaya. the whole process took 6 month, i went KPKT for atleast 10 times to submit document, query and etc. cost spend: each submission/replies cost me RM100 conclusion: in the end i claim back all expenses based on my repair receipt. may i know more detailed of your case? Your unit is still under warranty by developer/JMB? How is the tribunal looks like? does it looks like a court? I saw you written that the PENENTANG party which is the JMB doesnt sign the document then the tribunal case got to delay another 1 month? How if we dont bring sufficient or forgot to bring the proof to tribunal court on that day? will it be postponed too? |
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Jul 19 2019, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(woolei @ Jul 5 2019, 10:59 AM) Hi Guy, Nice share, thankswonder if anyone still followed my case. but i have successfully close the case via KPKT Putrajaya. the whole process took 6 month, i went KPKT for atleast 10 times to submit document, query and etc. cost spend: each submission/replies cost me RM100 conclusion: in the end i claim back all expenses based on my repair receipt. |
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Jul 19 2019, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(woolei @ Aug 29 2018, 02:08 PM) struggle now, be "kind" now but maybe going to struggle in future. the leak is still there, i just "block" it using PU injection for now. PU injection will help if leaking is due to wall cracked dan rainwater seeps inhard to believe him, because he cant even show the proof he is kena lelong. All this while the tone he using is very bad before the court case. I won't let them escape this. Yes, this is what in my mind too. It less than 2k, i am using PU injection. What i worry is what if it happen again? so i would like to get the formal statement from tribunal court, stated clearly it is "Management Responsible" to fix it after 14 days if owner ignore it. PU injection will not help if leaking due to water pipe / drain pipe |
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Jul 19 2019, 11:00 AM
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Jul 19 2019, 05:11 PM
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Jul 20 2019, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE(jvcpcv55 @ Jul 19 2019, 09:15 AM) PU injection will help if leaking is due to wall cracked dan rainwater seeps in luckily for my case, on top of the leaking spot is not a water pipe/drain pipe.PU injection will not help if leaking due to water pipe / drain pipe if it yes also can do one, just whack all the way up until see the pipe, seal it, patch it up. |
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Jul 20 2019, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(se800i @ Jul 19 2019, 08:35 AM) hi boss..... already pass 5 years, (warranty is 2 years)may i know more detailed of your case? Your unit is still under warranty by developer/JMB? How is the tribunal looks like? does it looks like a court? I saw you written that the PENENTANG party which is the JMB doesnt sign the document then the tribunal case got to delay another 1 month? How if we dont bring sufficient or forgot to bring the proof to tribunal court on that day? will it be postponed too? yes, it is a court. usually will meet after 1 month. because when you want to submit new evident, you have to submit to the counter at 2nd floor. the process is like 1) you submit a case, check for available slot in calendar (usually is schedule after 30 days), 2) they will send letter to the owner & management, make sure they receive 2 week before the court date. 3) the owner and management have to come kpkt submit official reply and pass to you. (either they denied or what) 4) meet in the court and start debate, after that if judge need further evident like receipt,whatapp records, quotation from management, photo. you or that 3rd party have to submit. 5)meet after 30 days my case solve after 3 court 1st court the owner get to run away from it, because i didnt give him the letter (make sure you get his acknowledgement with signature or signed post) 2nd one, i get to speak, show photo, show whatapps conversation. management also say the owner no answering call or etc. the owner upstair saying bullshit and lie. 3rd one, management give the judge quotation from their handiman, proof my claim is reasonable, court order issued sorry if it too messy, sleepy now. |
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Jul 22 2019, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(woolei @ Jul 20 2019, 02:58 AM) already pass 5 years, (warranty is 2 years) first of all, thanks for your willingness to share in this thread. many people doesnt want to share here. I would reali need to thank you for this. yes, it is a court. usually will meet after 1 month. because when you want to submit new evident, you have to submit to the counter at 2nd floor. the process is like 1) you submit a case, check for available slot in calendar (usually is schedule after 30 days), 2) they will send letter to the owner & management, make sure they receive 2 week before the court date. 3) the owner and management have to come kpkt submit official reply and pass to you. (either they denied or what) 4) meet in the court and start debate, after that if judge need further evident like receipt,whatapp records, quotation from management, photo. you or that 3rd party have to submit. 5)meet after 30 days my case solve after 3 court 1st court the owner get to run away from it, because i didnt give him the letter (make sure you get his acknowledgement with signature or signed post) 2nd one, i get to speak, show photo, show whatapps conversation. management also say the owner no answering call or etc. the owner upstair saying bullshit and lie. 3rd one, management give the judge quotation from their handiman, proof my claim is reasonable, court order issued sorry if it too messy, sleepy now. I am going for tribunal against the developer late VP very soon in tribunal. so i wish to know how is the place looks like and what kind of proof in multimedia or in paper form we must show in the court. with what you have shared, i think i better to print out all the hard copy as primary proof and multimedia (whatsapp, email) in phone for secondary proof as back up to avoid running to tribunal court so many times. for the letter, the developer refused to chop receipt, so i use AR post. This way is workable also, correct? your 4th points, start debate means we got to tell your judge that the PENENTANG is at fault and tell both judge and PENENTANG we actually having proof to prove the PENENTANG is at fault is it? |
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Jul 23 2019, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(se800i @ Jul 22 2019, 09:51 AM) first of all, thanks for your willingness to share in this thread. many people doesnt want to share here. I would reali need to thank you for this. yes, print everything out, dont save printing money although it could be quick expensive.I am going for tribunal against the developer late VP very soon in tribunal. so i wish to know how is the place looks like and what kind of proof in multimedia or in paper form we must show in the court. with what you have shared, i think i better to print out all the hard copy as primary proof and multimedia (whatsapp, email) in phone for secondary proof as back up to avoid running to tribunal court so many times. for the letter, the developer refused to chop receipt, so i use AR post. This way is workable also, correct? your 4th points, start debate means we got to tell your judge that the PENENTANG is at fault and tell both judge and PENENTANG we actually having proof to prove the PENENTANG is at fault is it? it not a debate, more like tell the judge the story. example: good morning judge, i am xxxxxx, at 1st june 2017, i sign S&P for this house brah brah, but after 2.5 years, i still havent get vp letter or etc. (show the S&P, receipt etc to judge, they should have 1 set of copy) according to agreement the developer should compensate me this amount brah brah brah. i demand to get full compensation for late vp. den the other party will start talking . |
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Jul 23 2019, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(woolei @ Jul 23 2019, 02:09 AM) yes, print everything out, dont save printing money although it could be quick expensive. oh no ... I should have just print all out... you print it in color or BW ?it not a debate, more like tell the judge the story. example: good morning judge, i am xxxxxx, at 1st june 2017, i sign S&P for this house brah brah, but after 2.5 years, i still havent get vp letter or etc. (show the S&P, receipt etc to judge, they should have 1 set of copy) according to agreement the developer should compensate me this amount brah brah brah. i demand to get full compensation for late vp. den the other party will start talking . |
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Jul 24 2019, 01:11 AM
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Jul 24 2019, 08:38 AM
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Jul 28 2019, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(woolei @ Jul 5 2019, 01:25 PM) i claim from management, management credit to my monthly bill. How about the case of highest floor unit? Let say there's water leaking on the roof slab of the highest floor. Should be the responsibility of the management or the owner of the highest floor?after that management will claim from owner upstair. this is by the judgement of the court. |
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Aug 14 2019, 08:29 PM
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Thanks for sharing all the experience.
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Aug 14 2019, 08:45 PM
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In my case, the upstairs owner done once, " epoxy coating " on the bathroom floor.
And now, the problem still remain. I talk to the owner and they yelling at me, " I only do once ! I won't do twice! !I have spend RM 950, I won't spend any money again." So, I am fed up! Angry! And feel like a fool! Don't give any mercy to your ridiculous Upstairs owner.... |
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