I get an insider news , Mah Sing mentioned overall 70% who purchased Savanna will buy a property again , and overall 67% Lakeville purchaser also will buy again. They only do survey for this two project.

Appreciate that if you can put your reason for Yes or No.

This post has been edited by thmlee45: Aug 17 2018, 09:49 PM

No Icon City survey?

Waiting for dsentral lelong...

I buy MS lelong at 80% discount

Mah Sing no good...?

Lol those two are new developments. Wait until the owner face those issues like the rest of other owners

That icon city with ramp that forever make federal jam damn

no...mah sing workmanship not so good

Sorry bro, dont have o

true , let see what they facing after few months.

Updated News:

This survey total respondent taken is around 3XX respondent

They also do a survey about their quality of project. Overall 70% of Savanna Purchase have satisfy with MS Quality, and 80% of Lakeville have satisfy with MS Quality. (Measurement by total defect purchaser submitted)

Do you agreed?


Updated News #2 :
I believe many purchaser of MS Project, there are a ton of detect they found. When they submitted the defect it takes very long to be fix or updated. The reason of behind is because their customer service staff is inefficient and they still using a manual form thus this caused the defect form have been backlogged.


Updated News #3 :
Lakeville and Savanna Purchaser who have using My Mah Sing App, do you find out those good features been disabled like register guest, contractor, book facility and etc. I heard that is because the property management not willing to change to digital, afraid those purchase misuse the App features so they do it slowly.

For Dsara Purchaser , I asked one of my fren who bough Dsara they already have booking facility features on.

Bump

standard almost on par with MKH nowaday.

Lol , but they still in top developer status

As long as they can finished the project without delay... can consider good already... when comparing some developer just know to hire celebrities (Jh Low punya girl friend).... to con buyers...

Yes, if its 48% like mcity or 28% like dsara

Ya true also, but since they are top developer by right the defect should be lesser comparing or the quality should be better.

this is Malaysia... the working attitude and corporate good practices not implemented properly... we are way behind other countries...

even other top developers...the workmanship also very lousy

seconded. Just bought a prop by HS in sabah. Oh hell... on par with or slightly better than local small timers ; but 'branded' pricing

This post has been edited by timo1003: Aug 23 2018, 03:34 PM

Mah Sing PBT margin been consistently at 16.2% from 2015 despite the downturn.

Since they shifted to affordable housing, pricing Rm500k segment (which command lower margin), they manage to retain this margin, meaning that they are doing very good job in controlling the cost.

The cost will come from higher dense, and definitely not better workmanship products. So give and take I guess.

But labelled as top developer might be misleading, if top means quality.

Mah Sing profit margin only at 16.2%???

With the cheap land (near HTC) that they acquire, it's really hard to believe.. maybe some very smart accounting to avoid paying high taxes..

PBT margin. Every company's FC/Tax Mgrs are hired to reduce as much tax as possible, legally.

I cant believe MBPJ approved that ramp on federal highway! How much under table money have they gotten for that? It is such bad design and eyesore!

Lol and have free waterfall , as I know they solve the issues under table and ask the owner take down the videos.

Are u one of the owner?

Yea wo, if can link to LDP towards paradigm side then ok la. But now cause bottleneck in federal

Party until delayed few times on the completion date ..... But lately see a lot of works being done, but the workmanship really makes you really want to cry.

Erm haha my fren is one the staff work closely with main con.

Ya , workmanship will cause u most headache and long terms. And DLP only 2 year.

Updated News :
They have categories the constructor gred, they Gred A , B, C and etc.

Normal project they would use gred B or C. But for those project is affordable price they use C or D.

wonder got Gred A from their project ?

Err I think Icon Mont Kiara the only one. The rest is Gred B even Icon City.

Grade F for Southville and Dsara Sentral.
Lelong house.

Haha , seriously u think this same thought as me, omg. MS gg .

Bump

Lakeview grade F also?

Guys, what is grade F? And how does the grading system work?

We think F = Fail, but MS boss thinks F = Fabulous...

Fabulous!!

Constructor Gred C or D.

The Grading system is by the internal marking scheme for the constructor by evaluating their price, productivity, quality and etc.

Real case study:

D'Sara Sentral by Mah Sing. Late buyer got throw in 25% rebate while early bird only got 9% rebate.
You can read it yourself here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=86920761
Continuation part 2 (with typical alasan): https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=86969476
Paper loss 100k stated but 1 of the buyer himself: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=86978041
and can read from that post onwards......


Real case study #2:

No need to guess is from the same developer again!!!
M City, Jalan Ampang.
Project completed 2 years ago. But developer units still fail to sell out. (How to sell when got so many units end up cheaper price in auction?)
So what to do? Throw in big rebate to sell.
Unit dispose same like 7 years ago early bird pricing. If count progressive interest, and 7 years of lost opportunity. Late buyer actually got big advantage.
Read: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=89879928

Haha thanks bro for getting more input. So that other ppl know more.

Bump

After sales services, sell and wash hand attitude hard to accept!

Yes, terrible developer.

Nope. NEVER

~tiunia~ seng

BTW any mah sing unit recently that make money? (not lelong). Pity my friend unit in icon city (vacant from VP till now at least they fix the waterfall feature).

This post has been edited by erni3: Sep 21 2018, 03:42 PM

After only when owner make noise until very its big news only they will go fix it. U can see their FB page , everyday got bad comments but they deleted lol.

The pojeks were overpriced as early 2011 (Msut Jalan Ampang)...

Not all are bad apples, Tan & Tan workmanship is first class, my unit at Hampshire Place and Three28 have no defects at all during VP, the same goes to their after sales service, which is even better than SP setia and Eco World.

Even for UOA, I was quite surprised by the good workmanship in Sentul Village where my wife and I shared a unit. Granted that the materials used are not top notch like Tan & Tan, but that is to be expected considering the targeted market segment for Sentul Village. Whilst there are bad apples like MAH SING, Maryland and SP Setia, there are plenty of developers out there that still deliver what is expected of them.

Note: SP Setia has 3rd class or no class workmanship but 1st class after sales service. But I would rank SP along with the likes of MAH Sing as one of those bad apples for the pain I had to deal with the lousy workmanship.

But in Mah Sing is a ageing, they not moving fast also. Other developer already start using it then they only will follow. In coming digital era, there are quite a lot of thing they didn't manage to catch up even in construction side. They rebrand but still same shit.

MS build a bad name for themselves with bad workmanship and get bad publicity from the public for their poor design. The construction industry in Malaysia regardless of developers, is slow in utilizing new construction method. No surprise there, but old doesn’t mean bad. Clay bricks is still the best material for our climate.

I not sure why MS can't have a good workmanship. Lol maybe is because from plastic industry. Yup I agree in our MY construction industry is slow in adopt new thing.

I not sure now aday which project still will provide clay brick in high rise project.

HOw about EcoWorld ?

All Tan & Tan project uses clay bricks. But they have crazy pricing for their current project.

Bump

Updated News :
Mah Sing going to have refer friend to buy MS house to earn incentive, it's seem open for public. Lol I can see old old project also got, can check out at MS App.

How could you resist this?! https://www.ngchanmau.com/property/13808

mah sing again


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Only 243 units are available for FundMyHome, not bad. You look at the diagram, so many rectangles there.

[only 234 unit] it consider whole half the block already bro

This post has been edited by leodinouknow: Nov 8 2018, 05:27 PM

so how for the those buyer invest there? now become fund my home project

But there are so many blocks there in the picture.

i got friend there. block A first prhase done, he get block B. currently behind on going build more 2block to block the seaview of A & B. think p2p is behind those 2block

I see. If only Block A completed, then it is bad. I thought all blocks completed.

A & B complete, B struck already. now got many type package. if not remember wrong is this

package 1: cash back 50k
package 2: free myvi
package 3: fully furnish

I don't know where does Mah Sing gets the guts from. Their projects all big big one. Too aggressive.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Nov 8 2018, 06:12 PM

overhang already lo. free myvi also nobody take. now all go into fundmyhome

Mah Sing also got big condo porjects in sg buluh. Maybe not completed. I think soon it will join FundMyHome.

Heard a lot of bad comment for Mah Sing. Just wonder is it worth to buy M Vertica at Jalan Cheras, which develop by Mah Sing, around RM500k++ for 850sf?

I would advise to pay a visit to one or two units in some of their completed properties such as Lakeview Residences so that you can have a better opinion on their workmanship.

But do be warned that their sales staff are known to be quite pushy. That's why I tend to avoid their booth at any property roadshows.

too expensive for such a high density project bro.... almost 600psf for a 3600 units condo... we not even start to talk about their bad workmanship and bad for early buyers late bird package....

I agreed with News #2. The CS like shit. Even snail working on those paper works are better than them. Message from CS to Contractors hardly there. Contractors done with their job, inform CS. CS hardly inform the owners. Walk into CS to complain on defects, no people greets you, everyone just look down on their paper and "hope" you don't go to their desk. As if I am begging them to come and fix the defects.

MR2 Owner

Workmanship, many developers more or less the same unless wanna compare with Sunway ann Tan&Tan. But I cannot accept the after sales services!! Sucks big time. The staffs not well-trained. Ask questions all also "Tak Tau". Only sits there only and look at their HP.

Erm how many turn into lelong house today?
Having handful of units in lelong market is common but to have a never ending list of lelong property, only Mah Sing able to achieve.

LahSing , lol anyone want buy house in online ?

https://www.winrayland.com/2018/11/lazadama...JciCVXNuzMM4h-A

M Vertica Launch new tower , Tower C price also increase due to this tower is standalone tower. Incoming Tower D and E will be launch after Tower C almost fully booked. I rmb this M Vertica have shop lots one

Savanna already lelong to rent out , I heard they got do survey all feedback their quality suck, many hollow tiles and wall.

Yes hollow tiles:

wonder who is the contractor for savanna ? i thought it should be a big boy since it involves so many blocks...

Haha Hollow tiles , beside that not sure is dsara or savanna the water tank is dirty .

Hollow tiles very common defects, any other serious one?

LOL. MahSing is selling property on Lazada. mountain poor water end.

what means of hollow tiles? itis no semen. nay anytime the tules can drop.

Semen?😨😯😄 its cement bro😆

Lazada is going to work with mahsing to sell houses.. 😂 Seems like mahsing has many ready stock units

Webpage

This post has been edited by luvox: Nov 28 2018, 10:13 PM

https://www.facebook.com/188493594637475/po...68959089924249/

Time is bad for MS. Now selling through Lazada.

This post has been edited by David_77: Nov 29 2018, 02:05 PM

At one point, i think they should stop developing lah. Janji2 masa beli, bila siap semua jadi capati kosong..

Their SA all say good for investment and rental, they should 100% focus on people buying for own stay and stop this good for rental etc etc.

look at southville, icon city, kesian wehhh..

construct 3000++ unit at southville and say can rent out for rm1800 is just bs.

This post has been edited by ameer1988: Nov 29 2018, 05:05 PM

can deliver to your doorstep

true that

Mah Sing - the graduate of Talam Property College

Lol! Good one 😂

cash on delivery

haha

wonder if anyone buy from lazada not? mind to share experience

can try tenant for sales on lazada next time