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post Aug 17 2018, 05:21 PM, updated 8y ago

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TM STREAMYX is so SUCK!!!! I think everyone know it!!! However, there is still no signage of TM will bring UNIFI to my area and it has been 6 years till now.
Life with 1Mbps I think everyone know it, Imagine if u need to use Remote Desktop with this hyperspeed... biggrin.gif

Based on my observation, my area is not really demand with high speed user and it's old area. I guess I'm the only among them need the 100mbps speed yawn.gif

ANYWAY... is that any chance to force or push TM to bring FIBRE here??? TBH, all the surrounding area got it already, even the taman next to me. I just don't understand why is no under their consideration... ton of request, inquiry has been submitted by me. But no voice heard by them. smile.gif

Why just TM always sambung the line tengah2 stop...??? And, FYI, my area streamyx max speed is 2mbps...

Imagine how miserable with my life when facing with connection...

High cost, slow speed. TM best!!!!!!! shakehead.gif
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post Aug 17 2018, 05:28 PM

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Get neighbours to sign request. TM don't install is because they see no demand from that area.

or u just try tell them, you'll fund for the installation.

btw, tons of request from 1 person is not enough
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post Aug 17 2018, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 17 2018, 05:21 PM)
TM STREAMYX is so SUCK!!!! I think everyone know it!!! However, there is still no signage of TM will bring UNIFI to my area and it has been 6 years till now.
Life with 1Mbps I think everyone know it, Imagine if u need to use Remote Desktop with this hyperspeed... biggrin.gif

Based on my observation, my area is not really demand with high speed user and it's old area. I guess I'm the only among them need the 100mbps speed yawn.gif

ANYWAY... is that any chance to force or push TM to bring FIBRE here??? TBH, all the surrounding area got it already, even the taman next to me. I just don't understand why is no under their consideration... ton of request, inquiry has been submitted by me. But no voice heard by them.  smile.gif

Why just TM always sambung the line tengah2 stop...??? And, FYI, my area streamyx max speed is 2mbps...

Imagine how miserable with my life when facing with connection...

High cost, slow speed. TM best!!!!!!! shakehead.gif
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i feel you bro..

i waited for 7yrs until finally available last May.

why not look for your wakil rakyat to try and pull some strings?
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post Aug 17 2018, 06:13 PM

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Few month ago, (i think in end of 2017), i register unifi at tmpoint HQ(pandan indah i think), but at that time unifi doesnt have coverage but aparment beside my area have it. The tm staff still pick my info for registration and says they will send some tm staff to check my area for infra support.

after 2 month my apartment got unifi, you know what intersting? they do not use telephone line(vdsl)! they pull fibre cable until 5th floor!

currently waiting turbo 100mbps! already got the email..

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post Aug 17 2018, 06:20 PM

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I have been waiting for UniFi since the day UniFi launched. Until today, nothing.
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post Aug 17 2018, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ Aug 17 2018, 05:28 PM)
Get neighbours to sign request. TM don't install is because they see no demand from that area.

or u just try tell them, you'll fund for the installation.

btw, tons of request from 1 person is not enough
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Yeah.. perhaps, the taman next to my taman is actually the housing of rich or newly built...
That's why FIBRE are there.. i guess..

HAHA.. i'm a B40 group.. rolleyes.gif RM89 each month, 1mbps have pulled half of leg into the coffin aldy..
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post Aug 17 2018, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(pokchik @ Aug 17 2018, 05:39 PM)
i feel you bro..

i waited for 7yrs until finally available last May.

why not look for your wakil rakyat to try and pull some strings?
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Going soon dude... I can't tahan with the Streamyx 1mbps aldy serioulsy...
but do you think those Wakil will do anything meh?? This is like so ridiculous for them.. lol

And yeah... at last, u get ur 100mbps.

imagine my feeling now to just to load this forum. sometime it just get corrupted while my sis is watching youtube on her phone lolololol
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post Aug 17 2018, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(faizyunus @ Aug 17 2018, 06:20 PM)
I have been waiting for UniFi since the day UniFi launched. Until today, nothing.
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Dont be sad bro... we're on the same ship..
FB sometime train their staff to work under 300bps speed
but we used to it aldy...HAHAHA

Anyway... this should not be a alasan for TM in doing their expansion work slowly.. lol

It really need another competitor to come, then only TM will realize how "pamper" their service is. shakehead.gif
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post Aug 17 2018, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(SMF97 @ Aug 17 2018, 06:13 PM)
Few month ago, (i think in end of 2017), i register unifi at tm hq, but at that time unifi doesnt have coverage but aparment beside my area have it. The tm staff still pick my info for registration and says they will send some tm staff to check my area for infra support.

after 2 month my apartment got unifi, you know what intersting? they do not use telephone line(vdsl)! they pull fibre cable until 5th floor!

currently waiting turbo 100mbps! already got the email..
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Seriously???

But i guess u're lucky because u living in apartment. I'm landed house... it really need their technician come and tie the new cable..

if you mention something about the application, i tried few time before aldy. NO ONE willing to let me sign HAHAHAHA. (with agent lar)
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post Aug 17 2018, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 17 2018, 05:21 PM)
High cost, slow speed. TM best!!!!!!! shakehead.gif
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I using 8mbps, and Upload still 512kbps... what next?

every 2AM, Whatsapp chat backup, all 10 smartphone start backup, internet hong...
easy fix? just turn off backup (only stupid not to backup, chat is one the proof just in case)

then... DropBox, Google Drive, SkyDrive, etc...
cant make sync!!!

then... I often using GitHub, GitLab for code sync, project sync
streamyx sucks for that

soon, 2020, everything is Cloud! off-site backup, etc...
Upload is very important!

every TCP request, need TCP acknowledge (upload).

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I has been thinking to use 4G, like Digi Infinite, but IP Address is private, thats sad

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post Aug 18 2018, 12:03 AM

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It's business, if only 1 or 2 customers from an area without fibre support want unifi and they calculated, it's not going to cobver their cost in the next 20 years, then they won't do it, unless there is nothing else to do then they might consider doing it. Get like 20 applications in your area to apply unifi could change the situation.
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post Aug 18 2018, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 17 2018, 10:12 PM)
I using 8mbps, and Upload still 512kbps... what next?

every 2AM, Whatsapp chat backup, all 10 smartphone start backup, internet hong...
easy fix? just turn off backup (only stupid not to backup, chat is one the proof just in case)

then... DropBox, Google Drive, SkyDrive, etc...
cant make sync!!!

then... I often using GitHub, GitLab for code sync, project sync
streamyx sucks for that

soon, 2020, everything is Cloud! off-site backup, etc...
Upload is very important!

every TCP request, need TCP acknowledge (upload).

...

I has been thinking to use 4G, like Digi Infinite, but IP Address is private, thats sad
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Oh boy... I feel you, sincerely i feel you... but what can you do with it right?

some time i feel so bad and sad when i need to stay in other's home for longer just because the process of laptop havent done.

haizzz... seriously, it just make me so furious... especially during the thunderstorm raining time.. 0up 0down. more fun. rclxms.gif

BTW, may i ask u what you meant by private IP?? is that meaning it's allocate by digi or what? quite wonder about it...
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post Aug 18 2018, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Aug 18 2018, 12:03 AM)
It's business, if only 1 or 2 customers from an area without fibre support want unifi and they calculated, it's not going to cobver their cost in the next 20 years, then they won't do it, unless there is nothing else to do then they might consider doing it. Get like 20 applications in your area to apply unifi could change the situation.
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Ya... that's why im thinking to do a petition, eg collect neighbourhood signature with the wakil rakyat (even though i know them will not layan me) give to TM and do a press conference lar

it might be not constructive larrr (in some perspective), but this is what i plan to do and what i capable to do now.. just some action like this action can push them to go further. (perhaps)....

haizzz... seriously these might just been seen by TM mind as some clown act... just hope it will work...

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post Aug 18 2018, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 17 2018, 10:12 PM)
I using 8mbps, and Upload still 512kbps... what next?

every 2AM, Whatsapp chat backup, all 10 smartphone start backup, internet hong...
easy fix? just turn off backup (only stupid not to backup, chat is one the proof just in case)

then... DropBox, Google Drive, SkyDrive, etc...
cant make sync!!!

then... I often using GitHub, GitLab for code sync, project sync
streamyx sucks for that

soon, 2020, everything is Cloud! off-site backup, etc...
Upload is very important!

every TCP request, need TCP acknowledge (upload).

...

I has been thinking to use 4G, like Digi Infinite, but IP Address is private, thats sad
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How the hell do you git push with 512kbps?!
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post Aug 18 2018, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 18 2018, 01:08 AM)
Oh boy... I feel you, sincerely i feel you... but what can you do with it right?

some time i feel so bad and sad when i need to stay in other's home for longer just because the process of laptop havent done.

haizzz... seriously, it just make me so furious... especially during the thunderstorm raining time.. 0up 0down. more fun. rclxms.gif

BTW, may i ask u what you meant by private IP?? is that meaning it's allocate by digi or what? quite wonder about it...
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Private IP is IP that can’t be accessed on the Internet and can’t leave the local network, so if you have CCTV or gaming server, no one can acces your server. It is allocated by Digi, as there is not enough individual IPv4 addresses for everyone. TM and Maxis does that as well. If you want to know more, Google.
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QUOTE(miloaisdino @ Aug 18 2018, 07:29 AM)
How the hell do you git push with 512kbps?!
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Hahaha, ikr... some big project, when do big changes, wait it for tomorrow it will never finish to sync

QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Aug 18 2018, 09:41 AM)
Private IP is IP that can’t be accessed on the Internet and can’t leave the local network, so if you have CCTV or gaming server, no one can acces your server. It is allocated by Digi, as there is not enough individual IPv4 addresses for everyone. TM and Maxis does that as well. If you want to know more, Google.
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I have several self hosted server and NAS,
if Digi wont give public IP, I can simply rent a VPS and do port forward. but this add more cost which not feasible

However, TM can tell all DSLAM to use Annex M, this have large upload, at least 1Mbps is good or nothing ...
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 18 2018, 09:47 PM)
Hahaha, ikr... some big project, when do big changes, wait it for tomorrow it will never finish to sync
I have several self hosted server and NAS,
if Digi wont give public IP, I can simply rent a VPS and do port forward. but this add more cost which not feasible

However, TM can tell all DSLAM to use Annex M, this have large upload, at least 1Mbps is good or nothing ...
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I think if i remember on my old streamyx line i enabled annex m on my router side, the upload is still soft capped to arnd 512kbps but ping better and upload more stable..
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this is why upload is very important, and 200Mb/s upload while may seem like a big relief isnt going to be much especially when you can do a lot of work if things only took seconds.

Fun tip, peoples attention stray after 0.4 seconds, if your PC takes longer than that to do a task you will lose productivity or if your software/product isnt essential to work, people may just quit it and do something else. This is why a lot of PCs pre 90s booted instantly. One would think with the much faster CPU, busses and drive speeds that it should be the same.

A lot of people make the mistake of buying an extremely slow PC. One job i had they allocated an intel atom based PC for me to make apps, i just had to use my alienware instead, really shows the problem with malaysian businesses. you use an intel atom and that compilation will take more than a day, let alone to even run a VM to test.

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Saw new pole, new box on old pole
They can take SN C010 006 to SN C010 006A...
that 006 > 006A, can be 006B 006C ?? how many can do extension?
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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Aug 19 2018, 11:40 AM)
One job i had they allocated an intel atom based PC for me to make apps, i just had to use my alienware instead, really shows the problem with malaysian businesses. you use an intel atom and that compilation will take more than a day, let alone to even run a VM to test.
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Hahahaha!!! they are DUMB! not spending on High End, instead use Very cheap machine, expect to do a lot more like High End, this mind set need to kill away....
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post Aug 19 2018, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(kopi @ Aug 19 2018, 09:06 PM)
Same boat bro. Until a month ago it reached my street but I am on high rise... ground floor apartment. They dunwan layan either. Even management try talk to them no answer as there are several ppl all streamyx wanna upgrade. I tried email ask about how to get them to do infrastructure installation. They call me told me my apartment no infra instead. I said outside road got unifi got 3rd party open booth. They said those ppl do survey only. Then I said I got see unifi boxes on poles they ignore me. Even simple questions about what is procedure to get them install on apartment block also kenot layan that question.
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Bro... TM style of doing work larrr...

if they being more initiative and proactive, i think gunung kinabalu now also got 100mbps service aldy...

it's about 6-8 years they launch UNIFI.. enough time to done my bachelor+master degree

they rather doing it slowly... like "want care, dont want care" like that... very unprofessional indeed

they will prefer "if you want to use, just wait. you dont happy, leave malaysia larr" rolleyes.gif

but anyhow, you got the unifi box aldy, i believe soon (at least it will be earlier than me) you will get it..

i not even see the any unifi box at pole in my area cry.gif cry.gif now i just hope i could see the road side construction carry out by TM...
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post Aug 19 2018, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 19 2018, 07:41 PM)
Saw new pole, new box on old pole
They can take SN C010 006 to SN C010 006A...
that 006 > 006A, can be 006B 006C ?? how many can do extension?
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Hahahaha!!! they are DUMB! not spending on High End, instead use Very cheap machine, expect to do a lot more like High End, this mind set need to kill away....
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bro... how do you get that pic yah??

Feels like it's P&C of TM.. LOL

can help me check for my area ah?? LOL
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 19 2018, 10:02 PM)
bro... how do you get that pic yah??

Feels like it's P&C of TM.. LOL 

can help me check for my area ah?? LOL
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lol it just a Google Map and Site Survey, follow the path rclxms.gif
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post Aug 20 2018, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(kopi @ Aug 20 2018, 11:26 AM)
Problem is I am in old 20yo apartment building. They just don't like installing in older apartment blocks. So far both me and the management are unsuccessful to get them to set up here. If they lazy no need to do much either. Just pull cable to apartment tel box center then we all use vdsl2 admitly not as fast as those going high speed at very least we can get 30mb unifi.
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Bro.. at my university area, there's a lot of old age flat, housing area and apartment rent for student..

all available with 50mbps aldy one.. so don't be so sad, try go do some aduan with MCMC or any organization see if direct contact with TM is not works anymore.

but i just don't understand why my university (a ulu area) can got 50mbps, but my home (at city area) got only 1mbps lol... fkk rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 19 2018, 11:29 PM)
lol it just a Google Map and Site Survey, follow the path  rclxms.gif
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Perhaps i should go do research by my own, and propose to TM lol..

every time when i driving and my eye keep looking at the poles, it just really dumb lol..

but... anyhow... i have done that months of time aldy.. HAHAHA
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 20 2018, 02:44 PM)
every time when i driving and my eye keep looking at the poles, it just really dumb lol..
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Yeah, same for me, hahah
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QUOTE(SMF97 @ Aug 17 2018, 06:13 PM)
Few month ago, (i think in end of 2017), i register unifi at tmpoint HQ(pandan indah i think), but at that time unifi doesnt have coverage but aparment beside my area have it. The tm staff still pick my info for registration and says they will send some tm staff to check my area for infra support.

after 2 month my apartment got unifi, you know what intersting? they do not use telephone line(vdsl)! they pull fibre cable until 5th floor!

currently waiting turbo 100mbps! already got the email..
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Which apartment? I am staying near pandan indah as well, but my apartment only supports 30 mbps maximum.
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QUOTE(kopi @ Aug 20 2018, 03:14 PM)
I already have a complain which was email to yb gobind deo whose aide turn it to mcmc complain. So far nobody at mcmc contacted me after telling me wait for 15 days... Its now 17days I guess mcmc close the case.
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Send reminder email to MCMC , Gobind amd Prime Minister . Questioned them why are they ignoring and are they qualified for a minister for not able to handle TM. At the mean time stalk all management employees working in TM, and etc. ispr etty easy now with Linkedin , Facebook and etc. It will be better if get their family and friends involved too to give them the pressure. They will get your tings done just to shut you up. This is what I did when Najib is still the Prime Minister and I threatened him with my vote.

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QUOTE(kopi @ Aug 21 2018, 11:31 AM)
Already sent reminder yesterday to yb gobind deo and mcmc. Lol I will try look up others.
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I mean like sending it everyday . Morning, At night with more serious wording.
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Can we ask YB for help us to push the matter to TM?
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 20 2018, 02:44 PM)
Perhaps i should go do research by my own, and propose to TM lol..

every time when i driving and my eye keep looking at the poles, it just really dumb lol..

but... anyhow... i have done that months of time aldy.. HAHAHA
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Never mind, destroy the poles..
Let everybody suffer what is the feeling without fiber.. devil.gif

QUOTE(leezhijiang @ Aug 21 2018, 10:54 AM)
Send reminder email to MCMC , Gobind amd Prime Minister . Questioned them why are they ignoring and are they qualified for a minister for not able to handle TM. At the mean time stalk all management employees working in TM, and etc. ispr etty easy now with Linkedin , Facebook and etc. It will be better if get their family and friends involved too to give them the pressure. They will get your tings done just to shut you up. This is what I did when Najib is still the Prime Minister and I threatened him with my vote.
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How you all send email to Gobind?
Can somebody advise for it?

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QUOTE(MonsterJ9 @ Aug 21 2018, 04:53 PM)
Can we ask YB for help us to push the matter to TM?
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I think Gobind Singh has helped us quite a lot if compare to BN time when Salleh Said is in place. Nothing he has contributed

At least he has helped to urge the reducing of prices, make the telco market open to avoid TM monopoly, open fibre infrastructure project to all.

I just hope him now can give more concern to the people voice now especially those who can't receive the offer and monitor how is TM doing this matter. Also... most importantly, listen to the STREAMYX user voice...

Cuz for a normal human being, TM just doing it so unprofessional and "cincai-ly"..
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QUOTE(JuneResources @ Aug 21 2018, 05:28 PM)
Never mind, destroy the poles..
Let everybody suffer what is the feeling without fiber..
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Hahaha... I thought of doing it before.. cuz I just dreaming what if TM lazy to fix copper, just replace with FIBER, then one stone two birds achieved!! HAHAH

But I am good citizen. I don't offend the law ok...


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QUOTE(kopi @ Aug 21 2018, 02:29 PM)
Hmm I just sent email to cfm 5mins ago since kkmm didn't do anything. Will send another email to yb gobind tomorrow. I don't think flooding them will help more likely they will ignore it. Thanks for the advise
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How u get Gobind Singh email ahhh???

Share please... I going to blast his email very soon.😂

Anyway.. me too send a report to CFM aldy.. hope they doing his job lar..
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QUOTE(leezhijiang @ Aug 21 2018, 01:16 PM)
I mean like sending it everyday . Morning, At night with more serious wording.
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Show us some example please...
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QUOTE(kopi @ Aug 21 2018, 05:48 PM)
Bro is he I email him ends up became kkmm report he no respond directly also lol.

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Bro.. different la...

I guess the normal DAP office admin will not interfere with CFM or KKMM stuff.

But I just feel like if u sending email to his DAP office, it look like U had sent the wrong one isn't?

U should send to ur area parliamentary or consitituencies service centre right? Cuz I feel like the DAP email in ur pic is used to support civil issue and service of Puchong one..
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Can we protest inside TM Tower and demand to pull fibre cable?

As a streamyx user, I'm really frustrated with the service and their pricing.

Just infront of my house condo already got Unifi but here don't have.
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 21 2018, 05:42 PM)
Hahaha... I thought of doing it before.. cuz I just dreaming what if TM lazy to fix copper, just replace with FIBER, then one stone two birds achieved!! HAHAH

But I am good citizen. I don't offend the law ok...
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Later all the kampung people beratur at your house and kill you..
You know without fiber, citizen will become a killer...

QUOTE(kopi @ Aug 21 2018, 05:48 PM)
Bro is he I email him ends up became kkmm report he no respond directly also lol.

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If you everyday spam to his email, sure he won't respond you.
By the way, the streamyx email I guess no valid already because TM already stop the streamyx email domain.. Am I right?

QUOTE(kopi @ Aug 22 2018, 01:37 PM)
Same here bro, even management try ask also nothing. The damn unifi box is on 1 or 2 poles away from our apartment block. I email them nothing I complain also nothing.
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The only complain of the protest is taken down the monopoly fiber license.. Let other service provider can do fiber services (Although it's expensive to set up)..

Else, this country won't be improve so called "technology world"..
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QUOTE(MonsterJ9 @ Aug 21 2018, 08:09 PM)
Can we protest inside TM Tower and demand to pull fibre cable?

As a streamyx user, I'm really frustrated with the service and their pricing.

Just infront of my house condo already got Unifi but here don't have.
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Not u only mate... I guess mostly from here is in the same situation as u ...

Maybe we should set up an association with all the expertise people..

Buka an NGO to raise awareness in all Malaysia connection and communication stuff...

Then it only will raise power and concern from people.. so TM can yield HAHA

Dreaming always is a happy stuff.
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post Aug 22 2018, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(JuneResources @ Aug 22 2018, 08:57 PM)
Later all the kampung people beratur at your house and kill you..
You know without fiber, citizen will become a killer...

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Kampung people use EDGE/2G more than enough for them to WhatsApp and WeChat aldy HAHAAH they no need fiber unifi

City’s resident area la... I think it will be the cover of newspaper if it really occur hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 17 2018, 10:12 PM)
I using 8mbps, and Upload still 512kbps... what next?

every 2AM, Whatsapp chat backup, all 10 smartphone start backup, internet hong...
easy fix? just turn off backup (only stupid not to backup, chat is one the proof just in case)

then... DropBox, Google Drive, SkyDrive, etc...
cant make sync!!!

then... I often using GitHub, GitLab for code sync, project sync
streamyx sucks for that

soon, 2020, everything is Cloud! off-site backup, etc...
Upload is very important!

every TCP request, need TCP acknowledge (upload).

...

I has been thinking to use 4G, like Digi Infinite, but IP Address is private, thats sad
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all streamyx now IP already private
i think unifi as well
go check your IP address, if it starts with 100.XXX.XXX.XXX..it's private
my 4Mbps started getting private IP address since mid last year already
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 21 2018, 05:42 PM)
Hahaha... I thought of doing it before.. cuz I just dreaming what if TM lazy to fix copper, just replace with FIBER, then one stone two birds achieved!! HAHAH

But I am good citizen. I don't offend the law ok...
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they will fix copper
3 months ago, since midnight suddenly no internet
complaint to 100. they say will check

a day later, the technician called say the whole area no internet because someone stole all the copper wire...literally all of it
it took 2 days for service to resume
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No, don't email to the dap office, email it straight to his .gov.my email address
CC Prime Minister, entire management staff in KKKM, MCMC, Press and TM.

Also send an email to TM, indicate that if the email is being ignored then bl abla bla put your TnC. I bet TM is going to ignore it.

Then whola show time.

Print posters put in Kerinchi LRT stations, or fold into paper planes fly it to Menara TM just walking distance from Kerinchi LRT.

Eventually TM staff will do what you want just to shut you up

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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 22 2018, 10:49 PM)
Kampung people use EDGE/2G more than enough for them to WhatsApp and WeChat aldy HAHAAH they no need fiber unifi

City’s resident area la... I think it will be the cover of newspaper if it really occur  hmm.gif
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Then I can say your kampung people requirement is really very low.. console.gif
Nothing to comment they only use Whatapps and We Chat.. sad.gif
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Here is my situation, in sandakan.
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thats why I move to KK to use Unifi.
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QUOTE(junclj @ Aug 23 2018, 11:58 AM)
Here is my situation, in sandakan.
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thats why I move to KK to use Unifi.
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That place is new right? Unlike the other places that has Unifi. Still under construction when I live near there for 2 years. The developer royally screwed up then.
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http://www.kkmm.gov.my/direktori-a-hubungi-kami/direktori

and also the press. You may find it in directory page of newspaper portal. Well if you are red people, then it's even better

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 23 2018, 09:20 AM)
all streamyx now IP already private
i think unifi as well
go check your IP address, if it starts with 100.XXX.XXX.XXX..it's private
my 4Mbps started getting private IP address since mid last year already
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this my IP Address, as using 8mbps
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TM are using NAT444/CGN (Carrier-grade NAT),
using 100.64.0.0/10 Private address space, to compensate LAN/MAN routing for 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16. also 169.254.0.0/16 (Link-local with assigned Gateway)
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 23 2018, 03:36 PM)
this my IP Address, as using 8mbps
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TM are using NAT444/CGN (Carrier-grade NAT),
using 100.64.0.0/10 Private address space, to compensate LAN/MAN routing for 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.168.0.0/16. also 169.254.0.0/16 (Link-local with assigned Gateway)
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you're lucky
many unifi and screamyx user already being changed to private IP
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 23 2018, 03:45 PM)
you're lucky
many unifi and screamyx user already being changed to private IP
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Public IP need request to TM, only Power User need public IP, noob user dont care
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 23 2018, 03:59 PM)
Public IP need request to TM, only Power User need public IP, noob user dont care
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power user too but since i don't have to connect CCTV
so i didn't change to public IP
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everytime trying to sync (upload changes)
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see, everything now cloud, make work easier... but Streamyx make more harder...

I post some twitter... https://twitter.com/Anime4000/status/1032538972998656000
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QUOTE(jmas @ Aug 17 2018, 05:28 PM)
Get neighbours to sign request. TM don't install is because they see no demand from that area.

or u just try tell them, you'll fund for the installation.

btw, tons of request from 1 person is not enough
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Referring to this I agree. You can send strong and multiple request if your neighborhood already have Unifi coverage and they claimed that no more ports in that area for your installation. Spamming their management and authorities will speed up the process. This does not valid to the area has no fiber coverage

It happened to me when I was told they wouldn't install any ports in my area for the current being because there's no demand. Well, I refute their statement because almost every house already got Unifi coverage. I questioned them back why they don't install enough ports to entire row of houses.

I kept pasting notes and notices on the MDF box outside and in all TM point outlets includes all the way from Kerinchi LRT to Menara TM showing that their boss with face picture attached owned me money. AT the mean time I also questioned Najib at the same time why KKM under yours supervision is so lousy and etc and highlight do they still want to win the election a not.

Actually I already have sent some emails to TM stating that if they still give standard reply or read and ignore the mail then they are admitting that they are refusing the installation and going to compensate an amount of money since my house was the only one left out. I also require and insist management staff to call me in a certain period when I was following up using TM live chat otherwise my request for compensation will be valid and TM will liable for a sum of xxx, it turns out that feller just ignored and no calls or replies after xx hours.

It turns out I won the fight due to their decision to ignored and brushed me away during that time. Since they are good in writing TnC then we sure to use them properly and knows how to refute them back. I even wrote a sentence that said if this is still being ignored and not replied for xx hours or the same template is still given then Tm will agree to xxx where it will replace TnC stated by TM.

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kecian screamyx peasants rolleyes.gif

you will get it someday

it took me 7 years for my kampung area to have unifi (direct fibre)

waiting turbo also Kappa


mine was go thru the cctv cables into room , and have a little fiber box

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TM Technician come to my house, he said get 10 interested user within same lined for unifi
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TM Technician come to my house, he said get 10 interested user within same lined for unifi
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thats the monopoly issue mentality.

instead of company deploy and seek for customer to sign up, customer need to beg tm.
and customer do the promoter job for free to feed tm monthly lol.
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Aug 25 2018, 11:33 PM)
thats the monopoly issue mentality.

instead of company deploy and seek for customer to sign up, customer need to beg tm.
and customer do the promoter job for free to feed tm monthly lol.
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Correct. This is so bullshit! Since no competitor TM can continue their tidak apa attitude!
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Aug 25 2018, 11:33 PM)
thats the monopoly issue mentality.

instead of company deploy and seek for customer to sign up, customer need to beg tm.
and customer do the promoter job for free to feed tm monthly lol.
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QUOTE(alexleow81 @ Aug 25 2018, 11:52 PM)
Correct. This is so bullshit! Since no competitor TM can continue their tidak apa attitude!
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I been thinking same as you guys... this can report to mcmc/gobind about TM attitude ?
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 17 2018, 05:21 PM)
TM STREAMYX is so SUCK!!!! I think everyone know it!!! However, there is still no signage of TM will bring UNIFI to my area and it has been 6 years till now.
Life with 1Mbps I think everyone know it, Imagine if u need to use Remote Desktop with this hyperspeed... biggrin.gif

Based on my observation, my area is not really demand with high speed user and it's old area. I guess I'm the only among them need the 100mbps speed yawn.gif

ANYWAY... is that any chance to force or push TM to bring FIBRE here??? TBH, all the surrounding area got it already, even the taman next to me. I just don't understand why is no under their consideration... ton of request, inquiry has been submitted by me. But no voice heard by them.  smile.gif

Why just TM always sambung the line tengah2 stop...??? And, FYI, my area streamyx max speed is 2mbps...

Imagine how miserable with my life when facing with connection...

High cost, slow speed. TM best!!!!!!! shakehead.gif
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yes, certainly a bad experience if one is still using streamyx. 1Mbps speed even to surf a web is slow. in fact, it may even pull a property's value down without a fibre internet connection nowdays.

to get TM to install the infra, it needs 80% of demand of your neighbours. else ownself request, one street it costs 20k.


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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Aug 25 2018, 10:04 AM)
kecian screamyx peasants rolleyes.gif

you will get it someday

it took me 7 years for my kampung area to have unifi (direct fibre)

waiting turbo also Kappa
mine was go thru the cctv cables into room , and have a little fiber box
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I live in kampung area and still waiting. Only got upgraded to SUBB but 8mbps still slow..... no stable

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TM dont have referral program?
if customer can bring another customer to signup unifi... give a reward like 15% discount.

should we ask @GobindSinghDeo
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 23 2018, 04:06 PM)
everytime trying to sync (upload changes)
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see, everything now cloud, make work easier... but Streamyx make more harder...

I post some twitter... https://twitter.com/Anime4000/status/1032538972998656000
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I know how it feels uploading GigaBytes of data with STREAMYX 512kbps UPLOAD SPEED. When 3/4 of it finish being uploaded after leaving the system whole day, ERROR, lost connectivity!. No choice have to restart from scratch. feels like want to burn all UNIFI pole nearby the area.. seriously.

QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 25 2018, 10:01 PM)
TM Technician come to my house, he said get 10 interested user within same lined for unifi
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BULLSHIT!.
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QUOTE(noriabe @ Aug 27 2018, 02:45 PM)
BULLSHIT!.
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What we should do!?
I dont want to pay this expansive streamyx, none 4G provide give unlimited for home, except Digi Infinite (online subscribe)

to use 4G smoothly, I been thinking to buy Tri Band Repeater (2G/GSM, 3G/WCDMA, 4G/LTE) that cost me RM1200

or... use friend use, buy WiFi CPE, using 3GHz signal (so no one can hack) from friend (unifi) -> you
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What i saw on my road, actually there FIBER available on the street which is just 700 meter away from me!!!
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and this pic is took by google maps last year... not now!!!

i mean like after one year.. the infrastructure is there, but just no expand lol!!!!

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i really hope TM will have a look into my suggestion lol
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Jenjarom here been how many years still using screamyx. Recently their sales call me up after I keep spam request for unifi. They told me unifi available. But guess what.. It's copper unifi. And speed available is 10Meg only. My current package is already 8meg but it's tune to run at 10meg. Upload speed I know unifi lite is 5Meg. Compared to screamyx 512k but many complaints from users regarding unifi lite using vdsl plan upgraded from screamyx about unstable Internet. Lazy and stingy tm... Still don't want to upgrade my area with fibre. I think they only mini upgrade some areas without fibre to vdsl and consider upgrade already.
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QUOTE(darkskies @ Sep 4 2018, 01:33 PM)
Jenjarom here been how many years still using screamyx. Recently their sales call me up after I keep spam request for unifi. They told me unifi available. But guess what.. It's copper unifi. And speed available is 10Meg only. My current package is already 8meg but it's tune to run at 10meg. Upload speed I know unifi lite is 5Meg. Compared to screamyx 512k but many complaints from users regarding unifi lite using vdsl plan upgraded from screamyx about unstable Internet. Lazy and stingy tm... Still don't want to upgrade my area with fibre. I think they only mini upgrade some areas without fibre to vdsl and consider upgrade already.
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That's why i say.. TM is keep on expanding the unifi to places, but for the coverage area for that places will never grow..

but anyhow u still got 8mbps now, i just 1mbps max speed only. ARHHHH!!!! cry.gif cry.gif

and why copper fibre will be unstable?? i mean once they called "fiber" the cable will be fully fibre aldy right.. how come it makes with copper??

lol confuse
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Sep 4 2018, 03:25 PM)
That's why i say.. TM is keep on expanding the unifi to places, but for the coverage area for that places will never grow..

but anyhow u still got 8mbps now, i just 1mbps max speed only. ARHHHH!!!!  cry.gif  cry.gif

and why copper fibre will be unstable?? i mean once they called "fiber" the cable will be fully fibre aldy right.. how come it makes with copper??

lol confuse
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its VDSL2 half fiber half copper. copper speed degrades over distance. so the further your house from the fiber port/switch the slower your TOP SPEED will be. FTTx doesnt have this problem because its fully fiber connected.
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Sep 4 2018, 03:25 PM)
That's why i say.. TM is keep on expanding the unifi to places, but for the coverage area for that places will never grow..

but anyhow u still got 8mbps now, i just 1mbps max speed only. ARHHHH!!!!  cry.gif  cry.gif

and why copper fibre will be unstable?? i mean once they called "fiber" the cable will be fully fibre aldy right.. how come it makes with copper??

lol confuse
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QUOTE(anip94 @ Sep 4 2018, 06:04 PM)
its VDSL2 half fiber half copper. copper speed degrades over distance. so the further your house from the fiber port/switch the slower your TOP SPEED will be. FTTx doesnt have this problem because its fully fiber connected.
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According to my understanding.. vdsl isn't anything related with fibre or anything to do with fibre. Perhaps it's just my poor knowledge on vdsl. I believed that vdsl utilize a different hz and a more higher one compared to adsl. A higher frequency. Which means our normal screamyx modem will not worked anymore because it uses something differently although on the same telephone line. Because the existing copper line infra is actually capable to transmit higher frequency to enable higher broadband speed. But at the same time, higher frequency means more fluctuation in speed. This allows both side to project higher frequencies and at the same time introduce more noise since the spectrum seems wide. Whether the dslam is near to your house or not, it'll not be stable. You are merely subscribing to a service that's stable than wireless LTE/3G solutions but worse than screamyx in terms of stability. You'll experience high latency. This is the worse gimmick created by TM just to please our Communication Minister. To force screamyx users to subscribe to this shitty vdsl solution is not even a proper upgrade but merely making screamyx to shift to another worse internet solution. VDSL has existed long but to get it working requires quality infras. I last heard from some TM contractors, they're actually using WalaoWEI technology. You'll get the picture.
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Within 15 mins awhile ago, disconnected a few times until no signal, then I switch off my modem and on again, same thing happen again. Any chances of increasing the upload speed pass the 512k limit?

The download speed is crap, even for 8mb, watching youtube also got problem, not to mention browsing my favourite website for news also stuck. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Sep 4 2018, 12:52 AM)
What i saw on my road, actually there FIBER available on the street which is just 700 meter away from me!!!
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and this pic is took by google maps last year... not now!!!

i mean like after one year.. the infrastructure is there, but just no expand lol!!!!

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i really hope TM will have a look into my suggestion lol
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mate yours still far...700M

you know how far the fiber from my house ?

about 2M it`s 2Meter!!!

they still didn`t provide the fiber services for landed area !!!

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Still waiting for an available port since my house block already full. Other block still available. Complaned to tm and they have made report to HQ. Now i have to wait at least a week to get their response.
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QUOTE(TMNUTATALL @ Sep 6 2018, 08:59 PM)
mate yours still far...700M

you know how far the fiber from my house ?

about 2M it`s 2Meter!!!

they still didn`t provide the fiber services for landed area !!!
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HAHA dont you have any thought to pull the cable to ur home by ur own?? hahah laugh.gif

i just write email regard the 700m cable to TM, what's their ffedback still the same, "will consider soon based on demand" haizzz
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Is unifi like streamyx, if u know the technician for yr area can arrange to run yr own line? (Ofc with kopi la, this unofficial methods..)

I need a 600m cable... cannot wireless cos no line of sight..

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In my opinion, if your area do not have any fiber facility, I would rather purchase Digi Unlimited RM 150, get a 4G router and share among all members in the house. It is much much better than Slowmix
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Cctv mate.. im looking for business line but im not that rich for TM direct!!
This gobind really misplaced priorities. They should focus on accelerating subb rollout to rural and suburban areas (at least can 20mbps..). Now want to fiber all the way takes forever..

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QUOTE(miloaisdino @ Sep 7 2018, 05:24 PM)
Cctv mate.. im looking for business line but im not that rich for TM direct!!
This gobind really misplaced priorities. They should focus on accelerating subb rollout to rural and suburban areas (at least can 20mbps..). Now want to fiber all the way takes forever..
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I agree with you, bro. Rollout SUBB for all areas in Malaysia, and then fiber.
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Quite hard to push them, as currently streamyx listed high pricing.
Like me owned 4M about 4 year, other 4 year for 8M. no news for fibre or the unifi lite 10m....
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after survey around my lorong, there 7 people want Unifi, proceed to take name, ic, address and package? and find more people?
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QUOTE(Jklove @ Aug 17 2018, 06:21 PM)
TM STREAMYX is so SUCK!!!! I think everyone know it!!! However, there is still no signage of TM will bring UNIFI to my area and it has been 6 years till now.
Life with 1Mbps I think everyone know it, Imagine if u need to use Remote Desktop with this hyperspeed... biggrin.gif

Based on my observation, my area is not really demand with high speed user and it's old area. I guess I'm the only among them need the 100mbps speed yawn.gif

ANYWAY... is that any chance to force or push TM to bring FIBRE here??? TBH, all the surrounding area got it already, even the taman next to me. I just don't understand why is no under their consideration... ton of request, inquiry has been submitted by me. But no voice heard by them.  smile.gif

Why just TM always sambung the line tengah2 stop...??? And, FYI, my area streamyx max speed is 2mbps...

Imagine how miserable with my life when facing with connection...

High cost, slow speed. TM best!!!!!!! shakehead.gif
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If you need faster and cheaper, can complaint and switch plan to Unifi Wireless 10Mbps?

Your distance was far away from local exchange, maybe 4-8km and that's why only got 1M or 2M ports only.
Assuming if your nearby got Unifi, and you could find some neighbors who also demanded for it, then TM will come to you.
(Happened to me since 2 years ago after attempted 2 times by my own self.)

QUOTE(miloaisdino @ Sep 7 2018, 06:13 PM)
Is unifi like streamyx, if u know the technician for yr area can arrange to run yr own line? (Ofc with kopi la, this unofficial methods..)

I need a 600m cable... cannot wireless cos no line of sight..
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Need a repeater for that length.

QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Sep 16 2018, 03:33 AM)
after survey around my lorong, there 7 people want Unifi, proceed to take name, ic, address and package? and find more people?
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Min 10 is required, more is better...

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QUOTE(wilson1stop @ Sep 16 2018, 10:29 AM)
Min 10 is required, more is better...
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yeah, this witihin my lorong, tm tech. said 10 people, so unifi will install for my lorong first
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yeah, this witihin my lorong, tm tech. said 10 people, so unifi will install for my lorong first
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just 3 more to go, good for you.

still need some time for survey, application, installation by phases, testing for 1-2 weeks, then even installed every weeks 1230am will refresh your line since it's was new coverage for month(s).

What's I'm tried to said, is do it ASAP as you could, months ahead to go...
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post Sep 16 2018, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(wilson1stop @ Sep 16 2018, 12:25 PM)
just 3 more to go, good for you.

still need some time for survey, application, installation by phases, testing for 1-2 weeks, then even installed every weeks 1230am will refresh your line since it's was new coverage for month(s).

What's I'm tried to said, is do it ASAP as you could, months ahead to go...
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refresh everyweek at 12:30AM... no problem, since my 8Mbps streamyx refresh every night... hahahaha, having different WAN IP, last time I got 1.9.x.x addresses. sadly can't keep any longer.

need Ketua Kampung & Ketua Taman signature for this Unifi expansion?
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Sep 16 2018, 01:36 PM)
refresh everyweek at 12:30AM... no problem, since my 8Mbps streamyx refresh every night... hahahaha, having different WAN IP, last time I got 1.9.x.x addresses. sadly can't keep any longer.

need Ketua Kampung & Ketua Taman signature for this Unifi expansion?
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still got 1.9.xx
but my neighbors all kept hogging 42.xx and 43... which is undered webe ip ranges, still performed great when mostly KL suffered slow speed.

Actually no need, but if you can provide petition signed by ADUN, Ketua Kampong, AJK Taman and your neighbors then ok as well.
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Why is their fibre deployment is so slow? Literally like no expansion at all
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post Jul 15 2019, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(vanillapire @ Jul 14 2019, 06:06 PM)
Why is their fibre deployment is so slow? Literally like no expansion at all
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low density place they dont care bangwall.gif vmad.gif
they only care about earning more money ranting.gif
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sad for me, my nearest fibre port around 400m-500m but they still say low demand meanwhile almost all home want install fibre. Can anyone suggest how to push them to install? I want subscribe 300mbps not 30mbps/100mbps haiyaaa
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post Feb 17 2023, 09:22 AM

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write email to your MP and MCMC.
this is what i did last time.

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QUOTE(shiro311 @ Feb 15 2023, 12:26 PM)
sad for me, my nearest fibre port around 400m-500m but they still say low demand meanwhile almost all home want install fibre. Can anyone suggest how to push them to install? I want subscribe 300mbps not 30mbps/100mbps haiyaaa
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post Feb 17 2023, 12:29 PM

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Try subscribe Celcom/Digi/maxis
They tend to be responsive when the installation request is made by fiber partners.

I spend almost 2 years making noise at TM about how my area is supposedly covered but when the contractor come, they can't find dp that cover my home.
They simply refuse to investigate it beyond counter database check.

Then I decided to turn to Celcom. They quickly pointed out how TM assigned my house on the wrong street and I just need extra poles.
Within 3 days TM contractor come survey pole installation and next month they come to install two poles (it was pkp time they have pole supply issue). Then I got my fiber internet.

 

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