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TSfoolc
post Aug 13 2018, 08:54 AM, updated 8y ago

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all also become manager...... so many manager???

Product Engineering manager

Project manager

Engineering manager

Program manager


and many many more


izzit everyone also is manager? no lower than this?


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post Aug 13 2018, 08:57 AM

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Everyone is manager. At least they manage themselves. I also manage myself.
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post Aug 13 2018, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 13 2018, 08:57 AM)
Everyone is manager. At least they manage themselves. I also manage myself.
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so its just tittle lar

salary is just normal worker salary?
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post Aug 13 2018, 08:59 AM

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TS still working in intel?

Cant go to avago/ agilent?


Kesian
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Aug 13 2018, 08:59 AM)
TS still working in intel?

Cant go to avago/ agilent?
Kesian
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avago agilent more salary?
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:05 AM

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Tittle manager but salary kuli laugh.gif
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:06 AM

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manager is only a title.. in reality macam exec only..
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(foolc @ Aug 13 2018, 09:00 AM)
avago agilent more salary?
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Rumors is that the Avago people are so rich, they created a WhatsApp group to group buy BMW.
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 13 2018, 09:06 AM)
Rumors is that the Avago people are so rich, they created a WhatsApp group to group buy BMW.
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Aug 13 2018, 09:06 AM)
manager is only a title.. in reality macam exec only..
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but min got 10k nia
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(foolc @ Aug 13 2018, 09:10 AM)
but min got 10k nia
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manada... some companies out thr give u title manager only bcs it sounds better whn dealing with clients/customers..
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Aug 13 2018, 09:12 AM)
manada... some companies out thr give u title manager only bcs it sounds better whn dealing with clients/customers..
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Some consulting firms (DRIVER) has everyone as Vice Presidents laugh.gif
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Aug 13 2018, 09:12 AM)
manada... some companies out thr give u title manager only bcs it sounds better whn dealing with clients/customers..
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manada - man = ada

those above 30 all 10k nia

above 40 15k nia
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 13 2018, 09:16 AM)
Some consulting firms (DRIVER) has everyone as Vice Presidents  laugh.gif
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my fren work in keropok lekor shop. His title is Oil Manager
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:20 AM

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manager belit orang
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post Aug 13 2018, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Aug 13 2018, 08:59 AM)
TS still working in intel?

Cant go to avago/ agilent?
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Avago maybe ok because of the shares. Those who joined a couple of years ago will be pretty well off with their rsu and options and espp.

Agilent can't match Intel. The measurement/keysight section, at least.
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(foolc @ Aug 13 2018, 09:00 AM)
avago agilent more salary?
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Your intel so politic.


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post Aug 13 2018, 10:22 AM

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Errr..they have engineers under them. They manage those, hence the title x manager.
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:22 AM

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Intel is the richest semiconductor company in S&P500.
They can afford a lot of managers than engineers.

This post has been edited by David83: Aug 13 2018, 10:22 AM
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:26 AM

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post Aug 13 2018, 10:28 AM

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Intel best offer in IT field.
my ex-boss told me..

then my friend become permanent staff, i jeli..
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Aug 13 2018, 09:23 AM)
Avago maybe ok because of the shares. Those who joined a couple of years ago will be pretty well off with their rsu and options and espp.

Agilent can't match Intel. The measurement/keysight section, at least.
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Avago not human to do wan.....had a few friends inside, work for 2 year then cabut already....Avago was good at first but when ppl start to hear good benefit of avago everyone pour in..... then work become unbearable

I see Keysight just Ok shj but still alot of ppl prefer Agilent (couple of my friend when to Agilent from Keysight), maybe because Agilent had better working life then Keysight ?
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:33 AM

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Avago shares dropped USD 50 after the announcement of the software company acquisition.
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(doppatroll @ Aug 13 2018, 10:31 AM)
Avago not human to do wan.....had a few friends inside, work for 2 year then cabut already....Avago was good at first but when ppl start to hear good benefit of avago everyone pour in..... then work become unbearable

I see Keysight just Ok shj but still alot of ppl prefer Agilent (couple of my friend when to Agilent from Keysight), maybe because Agilent had better working life then Keysight ?
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Haven't met my badminton kaki in 6 years already. He was long time Avago staff. Think he's got it made now if he stayed on. smile.gif

Keysight is the measurement equipment division. Getting less profitable nowadays as it's quite mature and many competitors. Management not that good too.

Agilent is now the life-sciences division. Probably more profitable as it's a new growth industry. More exciting as well, I suppose.
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Aug 13 2018, 10:35 AM)
Haven't met my badminton kaki in 6 years already. He was long time Avago staff. Think he's got it made now if he stayed on. smile.gif

Keysight is the measurement equipment division. Getting less profitable nowadays as it's quite mature and many competitors. Management not that good too.

Agilent is now the life-sciences division. Probably more profitable as it's a new growth industry. More exciting as well, I suppose.
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And all branches out from HP vs Intel.
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:39 AM

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Macam susah je kerja intel.
But salary above average.
Dunno want easier job or better pay huhu
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Aug 13 2018, 10:39 AM)
Macam susah je kerja intel.
But salary above average.
Dunno want easier job or better pay huhu
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Intel has the best remuneration package in FIZ.
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:44 AM

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Couldn't get a permanent position in Intel after 1 1/2 year as GT. Slightly regret leaving, but job scope + instability made me look elsewhere.
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Aug 13 2018, 10:44 AM)
Couldn't get a permanent position in Intel after 1 1/2 year as GT. Slightly regret leaving, but job scope + instability made me look elsewhere.
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Intel always has jobs instability because of its constant internal restructuring.
You need to be able to spot them and migrate to another group.
This is the key survival tactic that my senior friend told me.
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post Aug 13 2018, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 13 2018, 10:46 AM)
Intel always has jobs instability because of its constant internal restructuring.
You need to be able to spot them and migrate to another group.
This is the key survival tactic that my senior friend told me.
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True2. Twice was 'promised' permanent position by manager, but both time he couldn't fulfill it due to pressure from upper management to absorb permanent people who had their team shut down. Then ask me to extend contract. After 2nd time, I cabut.
Yeah, only way to survive in Intel is by constantly migrating. But sometimes not lucky because decision comes from higher up to shutdown entire division.


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post Aug 13 2018, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 13 2018, 10:33 AM)
Avago shares dropped USD 50 after the announcement of the software company acquisition.
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Not a lot considering it was under 50 just 4.5 years ago.

Let's say that AVGO wanted to compete for engineers 5 years ago and offered a 20k a year incentive through RSUs. That meant that they'd probably given you 1600 units of shares to be vested over 4 years for 400/yr. Now, the same engineers would have their final shares vested at about 5X that price. So, instead of 20k a year, they'd be earning 100k a year.
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Aug 13 2018, 11:00 AM)
Not a lot considering it was under 50 just 4.5 years ago.

Let's say that AVGO wanted to compete for engineers 5 years ago and offered a 20k a year incentive through RSUs. That meant that they'd probably given you 1600 units of shares to be vested over 4 years for 400/yr. Now, the same engineers would have their final shares vested at about 5X that price. So, instead of 20k a year, they'd be earning 100k a year.
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You won't be having similar momentum now like 4.5 years ago.
The failed acquisition of Qualcomm may have given that expected forward trajectory.
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post Aug 13 2018, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Aug 13 2018, 10:39 AM)
Macam susah je kerja intel.
But salary above average.
Dunno want easier job or better pay huhu
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Heard B. Braun Malaysia got easier job but pay wise is average since it is OEM company....by after lunch your free with no job but of course you know the drillz 'act biz'....that what i got from my ex big big boss biggrin.gif

QUOTE(red_satu @ Aug 13 2018, 10:54 AM)
True2. Twice was 'promised' permanent position by manager, but both time he couldn't fulfill it due to pressure from upper management to absorb permanent people who had their team shut down. Then ask me to extend contract. After 2nd time, I cabut.
Yeah, only way to survive in Intel is by constantly migrating. But sometimes not lucky because decision comes from higher up to shutdown entire division.
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im no different, that was my news 5 years ago when boss offered me that position if i continue to work hard but end up i think he lupa liou.... i think i will leave next year after get my service awards
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 13 2018, 11:14 AM)
You won't be having similar momentum now like 4.5 years ago.
The failed acquisition of Qualcomm may have given that expected forward trajectory.
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Yes, but you were talking about share prices dropping 50 USD.

It's moved up so much in such a short time, 50 USD is less than 20%.
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Aug 13 2018, 11:22 AM)
Yes, but you were talking about share prices dropping 50 USD.

It's moved up so much in such a short time, 50 USD is less than 20%.
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Any supporting claim that it'll move up back to USD 270 level?
At least, I can share your optimistic view to my friends over there.
They're not confident now.
The software company acquisition is rather disappointing strategy to investors.
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post Aug 13 2018, 11:27 AM

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Nowadays manager = executive
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post Aug 13 2018, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 13 2018, 11:26 AM)
Any supporting claim that it'll move up back to USD 270 level?
At least, I can share your optimistic view to my friends over there.
They're not confident now.
The software company acquisition is rather disappointing strategy to investors.
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No one said it's going to move up to 270. Where did I claim that?

I said 50 drop is less than 20% off the peak, considering the 500% rise in 4.5 years or so. Anyone holding for longer than a year would still be in profit.
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True winner is title Engineer but salary manajar
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Pg6 7 masih ada ka?
The moment they rejected Apple as their customer as chipset supplier 10 years back, they are going downwards until now.
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manager or manizer
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QUOTE(foolc @ Aug 13 2018, 08:54 AM)
all also become manager...... so many manager???

Product Engineering manager

Project manager

Engineering manager

Program manager
and many many more
izzit everyone also is manager? no lower than this?
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Manager = also kuli.
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