'A meeting in coarse cotton, sixpence for leather and laces. Factory hardened arms mix oil and mud. A century and a quarter forward, Gunners together; battles ahead. From those first heavy steps; Men will become gods.'
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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (13) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw) 2014 Beat Hull City 3-1 (After Extra Time 2-2) 2015 Beat Aston Villa 4-0 2017 Beat Chelsea 2-1
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
[Ornstein] Reports of Arsenal bid for Barcelona forward Ousmane Dembele false. As previously reported incoming business completed a month ago. Were open to exceptional deal if chance arose (admire & have links to Dembele) but never realistic. #AFC optimistic on Ramsey contract but not close
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Hamza mendyl incoming 🤔🤔🤔
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The new keeper in Liverpool is expensive as well.
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we was linked with soyuncu but lester get him..but full trust to mislintat..he know what better for us..
^ i was positive, but seeing bellerin and no torreira, and seeing sterling returning to city is making me uncomfortable. sterling for city is on another level
^ i was positive, but seeing bellerin and no torreira, and seeing sterling returning to city is making me uncomfortable. sterling for city is on another level
lichsteiner can start over any of our defenders any day. guy is a monster and knows how to play football. technically and mentally.
i'm still not convinced of ozil in this sytem. Ramsey plays as the presser up front actually works because we no longer get ramsey fking about in front of the penalty box, and his engines are stifling ederson from playing his long passes.
cech, xhaka and maybe ramsey are not starters for arsenal ffs.
Leno and torreira should be starters from now on.
fuck wonga's golden boys i'd say.
unai should go full steam and revamp.
he did well putting Matteo in today. Kid's brilliant, barring a couple of defensive errors that would be down to inexperience rather than technical abilities.
Lichsteiner was also an absolute unit since he came on.
2nd half he drop ramsey and play ozil his usual duty
definitely unai's. that one is definitely on unai.
same with going for cech instead of leno and xhaka over torreira.
but i got a positive feeling out of this game compared to when it was Wonga era where I would just say "not this shit again"
One of the best things to see today was Unai's substitutions. Ramsey wasn't getting in the game, Laca came on. Xhaka was woeful, Torreira came on. Finally these comfortable players are understanding what happens when they don't perform.
1st game of unai, relax i think arsenal need 2 maybe more players in midfield area this arsenal really not sync very well rite now and auba always in offside position this make ozil so hard to make his job
or figure out a system to bring out the best in mesut. although at this point i'd rather take him out from the system and put in lacazette and torreira in for xhaka and ozil.
Too early to judge anything. New coach, new players, and etc. Give it some time. I'm already seeing some stupid fans who wants Emery to get sacked and wants Wenger back.. like what? Are you serious lol.
If like this every new coach, or even Wenger if kalah one game wants to sack? lol
Too early to judge anything. New coach, new players, and etc. Give it some time. I'm already seeing some stupid fans who wants Emery to get sacked and wants Wenger back.. like what? Are you serious lol.
If like this every new coach, or even Wenger if kalah one game wants to sack? lol
agree with you. still early. at least give him until half season.
so far last night can see small improvement in defend and wing. not bad they can hold pressure from city. if not 4-0.
A lot of improvements. Our defense were pretty solid overall, our counter attacking also not bad yesterday. The problem was just the midfield as far as I can tell. Keep losing the ball to often and not passing properly.
I'd like to see Torreira playing first team, Xhaka dropped, Cech dropped(he saves a lot, but my problem was his confidense level when passing, and how slow his reflex and speed is for his age now). Guan can play often just not in big games yet, very talented, but he needs more experience. Laca and Auba playing together side by side. Ozil playing in the no. 10 roll.
Maybe later on when Monreal is back could think of not starting Bellerin? He still needs to defend better this dude, and learn to utilize his pace better, and probably improve in position when defending. Could start otai Lich on right back.
- It wasn't the best of performances individually from almost every player but there were some positives. Most notably how we are able to mix it up a little bit more now with direct long balls over the top for Auba, the usual build up from the back, there were instances where we stretched the pitch well with good use of width. The number of chances we created were a testament to how well we were able to diversify how we attacked and on another day we would have at least scored a goal or two from the chances created.
- Finally early substitutions when things aren't working! Enough said.
- Guendouzi is a bloody diamond! He was a little bit nervy and made some schoolboy errors at the start, but these will be cut out with experience given time. He gradually got better as the match went on and was very brave and never shied away from any challenge. Showed more fight in him than perhaps all the senior midfielders combined last night. MOTM easily.
- Cech looks so clumsy with the ball at his feet. I hope Unai starts Leno vs Chelski. Made some fine saves but at the same time some howlers which you would never expect a keeper of a top club to make.
- Torreira looked so damn good when he came on. It was only glimpses but you get the feel that he is a class above any midfielder we have at the moment. Needs to start vs Chelski!
- Gotta love Lichtsteiner lol Should've been one of the five captains. The 2nd goal was his fault when he lost sight of his man (Bernardo Silva) but that happens when players are played out of position. Apart from that deputized well when Niles was injured.
- Ozil, I have said almost everything that is needed to be said before. His performance last night was not much different than what he has produced almost regularly in an Arsenal shirt for the last two years. Business as usual.
Overall we can be optimistic and positive despite the defeat. City are a different class but they are not unbeatable. They could've gifted us 3 goals alone in the last 10-15 mins had we been a little more ruthless. Looking forward to when the team clicks into gear and is fully familiar with Unai's system.
Kept silent for the most part of pre-season because pre-season is well, pre-season. It was good entertainment though at how some here take pre-season so seriously lol
Laca and auba need to start together. They will eventually find a goal, especially lacazette. Both are certified goalscorer. And torreira and guendozi for midfield.
This post has been edited by lostxkitten: Aug 13 2018, 04:32 PM
this is the best lineup we can get but i'll drop bellerin, mustafi, and miki.. ramsey need to move forward.
fair. while ozil was his typical useless self, mkhi was even more invisible. i dont know who i rate more or less between ozil and mkhi now tbh. mustafi was our best defender tho last game, has to be mustafi and sokratis.
Do you notice all of our conceded goals are from Bellerin? He is the weak link. Cannot defend only just watch pipu passed him. No wonder sterling hudson odoi mendy become messi if against him. Sell la this kind of useless defender. 50m and buy pavard
Not sure what he can really do tbh Bellerin, run fast also cannot outpace someone with the ball. Crossing is terrible and ofc defending also terrible. Kinda prefer to sell him as well, and for the time being Lich can replace him, giving a better steel to that area.
This post has been edited by Rei7: Aug 14 2018, 06:48 PM
fair. while ozil was his typical useless self, mkhi was even more invisible. i dont know who i rate more or less between ozil and mkhi now tbh. mustafi was our best defender tho last game, has to be mustafi and sokratis.
miki and ozil both also inconsistent players. whn trailing they will turn into invisible man, but I notice that ozil still got hope, sometimes whn we are leading he can turn into godmode. no matter how worse ozil we still need him to create chances for us.
for mustafi, same case super inconsistent. he can ply good in one game but turn into shit in another game. if chambers still in the squad, i rather put chambers in den mustafi.
As the City bench celebrated, Pep Guardiola grabbed Arteta and congratulated him for putting forward the suggestion which effectively killed the game. Arteta is also believed to have played a huge role in City’s pre-match analysis and tactical plan, having researched the Gunners’ squad meticulously for his interview to replace Wenger. Arteta identified Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Mesut Ozil as potential weaknesses, with the duo lining up on the wings, and concocted a plan to overload the flanks with pace. Mkhitaryan and Ozil duly offered little in the way of protection for their full-backs, while Arteta’s suggestion of putting the lightning-quick duo of Benjamin Mendy and Raheem Sterling on the left wing caused havoc throughout the match.
same problem with arshavin..lazy to chase and win back the ball..
miki and ozil both also inconsistent players. whn trailing they will turn into invisible man, but I notice that ozil still got hope, sometimes whn we are leading he can turn into godmode. no matter how worse ozil we still need him to create chances for us.
for mustafi, same case super inconsistent. he can ply good in one game but turn into shit in another game. if chambers still in the squad, i rather put chambers in den mustafi.
Not sure if it’s fair to blame Ozil to be honest. He is responsible to create chances but if the opponent are playing with defensive mindset or his counterpart’s positioning is not good. Of course lah all the through passes went back to the opponent. Can’t expect them to be like CR7 to be the game changer.
Not sure if it’s fair to blame Ozil to be honest. He is responsible to create chances but if the opponent are playing with defensive mindset or his counterpart’s positioning is not good. Of course lah all the through passes went back to the opponent. Can’t expect them to be like CR7 to be the game changer.
He rushed through yes when losing the ball, I only see him a bit panicky when that happens, but everything else I like him a lot. Mostly because he is one of those who can dribble the ball and attack up front. Barely anyone dribbles the ball much last year xD
whatever, i trust emery knows his shit. he hasnt been long enough in the team to play favorites to any player. must have solid tactical reasons to play and not play the players.
Credit to Miki for his determination. One goal and one assist
yea he finally woke up from the slow start.
and for those of you tearing into Bellerin, clearly you have not paid attention to his games vs Chelsea.
yea at the start he got exposed cause he's doing it alone all over again like vs City, no protection from the RW to press them back. Instead keep inviting chances to 2 vs 1 him..
Bellerin vs Chelsea is always one of his better games in as many games i could remember..
Bellerin already get his confidence in attacking on flank , change direction and use his pace to pass inside penalty box.
Iwobi confidence lain macam this match. Good to see this type of player. He is good with the ball. Not scare to dribble 2-3 defender..
Auba need his 1st goal for confidence.
Mikhi already found and eager to score and assist more.
Guendozi is pretty solid and have good passing vision.
But this bellerin really need to benefit his pace to cut in from flank. His defensive skill is so so only. But when he got space to attack from wide area, he is dangerous..
This post has been edited by sgshuhu: Aug 19 2018, 01:28 AM
Looking at the replay again Torreira saw Alonso but chose to let him go. If Unai doesn’t sort our defense and the organization of our team out we will be in for a long season ahead.
Some of the points from this match : 1. Bold move from emery to sub off non performing players. 2. Gendouzi will be the heart of our midfield matches to come. 3. Defence need to be sorted out. Mustafi has nervy moments while Bellerin positioning at times questionable that caused exposure at the right side. 4. Monreal is still Mr Reliable. 5. Miki should play no. 10 instead of Ozil. 6. Lacazette should be in our starting line up. Aubameyang on the LW and Iwobi as the RW.
This post has been edited by mayonaise3311451: Aug 19 2018, 02:41 AM
We might have lost today, but i think our pressing game and attacking sharpness is better today compared to vs city
I still feel the team just needs time to fully get into gear of playing emery style
Imagine chelsea have to struggle with our attacks at their home for some part of the game. Something we never had before
I would also say, if there are any other rival fans watching this game, i think they wished they face us now rather than later. I think the team can be pretty devastating attacking wise given if the player finish all chances today
Drop Ozil and Bellerin tbh, not performing at all. Same goes to Xhaka tbh, ofc lol. Give chance to Leno a bit, Cech is still a bit slow imo, but he made some really good save still.
Torreira needs to start, and lets play Auba with Lacazette together. Put Lichsteiner on RB as well.
Its ok la guys, as long we got Ozil its good enough right.
vs Man City - Lost possession 19 times, the most for any player on the pitch that night.
vs Chelsea - Made just 15 passes till he was substituted. The least for any player that night.
Totally worth 350k a week right guys?
In before he makes 1 or 2 square pass assists or a tap in goal in our next match and he is world class again giving him license to be shit for the next 10 games.
In all seriousness its just baffling that a player of such ability and talent can be so so so terrible in matches. It's almost like you give someone a cheat code in a game yet the guy still loses.
The next 10 - 15 games will be interesting because if Unai can't help Ozil, I don't think anybody can anymore and we will be stuck with an excessively expensive liability.
Welp if our strikers are half the finisher of aguero we might actually win
Harapkan Auba yesterday, but his finishing was poor. Usually very clinical. Then harapkan Laca, gave away the third goal. How many times actually we could score we just didn't, so it's pretty unlucky I guess.
Its ok la guys, as long we got Ozil its good enough right.
vs Man City - Lost possession 19 times, the most for any player on the pitch that night.
vs Chelsea - Made just 15 passes till he was substituted. The least for any player that night.
Totally worth 350k a week right guys?
In before he makes 1 or 2 square pass assists or a tap in goal in our next match and he is world class again giving him license to be shit for the next 10 games.
In all seriousness its just baffling that a player of such ability and talent can be so so so terrible in matches. It's almost like you give someone a cheat code in a game yet the guy still loses.
The next 10 - 15 games will be interesting because if Unai can't help Ozil, I don't think anybody can anymore and we will be stuck with an excessively expensive liability.
Guy literally was scoring for fun right after he joined us..
So if the first few games he isnt as clinical, it'll just give him a couple more games before he puts on his shooting boots again.
Ozil is worrying though. But good to see Unai doing something about it. When Ozil wasnt performing last season, Wenger did shit to try and solve it. Not substituted, no criticism of the player whatsover. At least Unai gave statement (although in a totally PR friendly way) that Ozil needed to up his game..
At least not much challenge until November when we have to face Liverpool. Then after a few weeks, Manu and Spud back to back games. I'll make my real judgement on the team and Emery after the Spud game haha.
If anything gotta say Guen is really good, what a signing. Kid will only get better, and during the Chelsea game I think he has improved a lot compared to during City game, love it.
Play below average every single game with us last season most of the time. Really not needed. Barely improved himself despite the chances Wenger gave him.
Its ok la guys, as long we got Ozil its good enough right.
vs Man City - Lost possession 19 times, the most for any player on the pitch that night.
vs Chelsea - Made just 15 passes till he was substituted. The least for any player that night.
Totally worth 350k a week right guys?
In before he makes 1 or 2 square pass assists or a tap in goal in our next match and he is world class again giving him license to be shit for the next 10 games.
In all seriousness its just baffling that a player of such ability and talent can be so so so terrible in matches. It's almost like you give someone a cheat code in a game yet the guy still loses.
The next 10 - 15 games will be interesting because if Unai can't help Ozil, I don't think anybody can anymore and we will be stuck with an excessively expensive liability.
I am just don't understand why still many people like him and support him, should have let him go free last season and cut losses, now arsenal bleeding even more. Have been trying very hard to see what people seeing in him for the pass 1 year or more, I still can't see anything so good about him. Now I think no one will take him even for free with his 350k salary.
Last year he was delaying to sign the renewal by hoping someone will sign him free agent with big salary but I think no one offer and arsenal was the stupid one to up their offer from original offer. Maybe everyone think he is loyal not like alexis Sanchez, if he is as good as Sanchez I think 100% he won't be at arsenal aledi.
I am just don't understand why still many people like him and support him, should have let him go free last season and cut losses, now arsenal bleeding even more. Have been trying very hard to see what people seeing in him for the pass 1 year or more, I still can't see anything so good about him. Now I think no one will take him even for free with his 350k salary.
Last year he was delaying to sign the renewal by hoping someone will sign him free agent with big salary but I think no one offer and arsenal was the stupid one to up their offer from original offer. Maybe everyone think he is loyal not like alexis Sanchez, if he is as good as Sanchez I think 100% he won't be at arsenal aledi.
Absolutely spot on. Wouldn't have shed a tear if we had let him go last year. Not only will no one take him now because of his salary, but even our own internal salary structure has been screwed by paying him that much, hence you see stories of Ramsey demanding up to 250k per week. Soon every player will be demanding so much higher than they deserve when the time comes for them to renew their contract.
If Iwobi and Ramsey were Wenger's godsons, Ozil is AST's godson.
Past 1 year or more? you have been very generous in your assessment. He has been absolutely shit for me for most part of his tenure of 4 - 5 years with us apart for a handful of games here and there when he actually decides to turn up and the 15/16 season.
We always laugh at United's or Chelsea's big money flop signings in the past like Veron, Shevchenko, etc but Ozil is just as bad at the moment IMO.
He has shown he has world class ability and talent, there is no doubt about that, that is why it is so mystifying as to how shit a player with such talent can play.
The best we can hope for now is that Unai has something up his sleeve to bring that world class ability and talent out from Ozil on a more consistent basis because like it or not a top form Ozil will be pivotal if we are going to achieve anything this year. It is no coincidence that when he plays well, we win games and if he does it often enough, a very good season, like in 15/16 when we challenged for the title notwithstanding the other top teams failings. The other years where he was more often average to poor than good, our league position and overall season mimicked that.
The two biggest challenges Unai is facing this season is getting the team to play the football how he wants it to be played ASAP and getting Ozil back up on his feet. Like I mentioned earlier, next 10 - 15 games will be very interesting, whether it is to see if Unai can bring Ozil back to his best or what will his stance on Ozil be if he fails, drop him or continue playing him.
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“#Arsenal have agreed a five-year $385m contract with #Adidas ($77m per year) that will be effective from next season once the #Puma deal expires.
It will be the 3rd highest in the kit manufacturing industry, just behind Barca’s Nike deal ( $134.5m per year ) & Man Utd's Adidas deal ( $96m per year ).
Expect Arsenal to use the funds on player transfers in the future.
“#Arsenal have agreed a five-year $385m contract with #Adidas ($77m per year) that will be effective from next season once the #Puma deal expires.
It will be the 3rd highest in the kit manufacturing industry, just behind Barca’s Nike deal ( $134.5m per year ) & Man Utd's Adidas deal ( $96m per year ).
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i actually want ozil to play against lesser teams ffs, now we actually have a chance to win he's ill.
i'm guessing xhaka and guen's long balls will be key in creating chances, but i expect our pressing game from both ramsey and iwobi will create the opportunities by winning the ball up high.
Typical Ozil, when the going gets tough he......disappears.
Anyway I have a strong feeling today is the last chance saloon for the likes of Xhaka, Bellerin etc. Another bad game and we can expect changes. This makes it hard as as much I want us to win, I also want others to get a chance as it’s clear these guys ain’t good enough.