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 StashAway MY, New instrument for Malaysian?

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post Mar 5 2019, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(justckl @ Mar 5 2019, 12:11 PM)
I was at their talk and Q&A at Menara Maxis yesterday.
Not to judge too early but their speakers did not give me enough confidence.

How does everyone feel with their track record so far?
Its a very young company just only started in SG a year plus ago & just only operating officially Oct 2018 in Malaysia
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How was the audience? Alot?


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post Mar 5 2019, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 5 2019, 09:33 PM)
btw, alex want do survey

if there's an instrument allowing you to have exposure to SP500 at the lowest cost of 0.07% per annum, but with sales charge and redemption charge of 0.55% ~ 1 %, would you switch from Stashaway?
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The answer is pretty obvious
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post Mar 5 2019, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 5 2019, 09:51 PM)
so duwan ? =(

but SA 0.8% p.a. wor
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SA have other access to other ETF...

And direct reinvest dividend paid. Collection of 30% tax.

I think ~1 is fair enough.
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post Mar 5 2019, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Mar 5 2019, 11:28 PM)
Guess reasons to stick with SA is:

1) Dividend and withholding tax claim

You might not be aware that, SA managed to claim back full, ALMOST ~30% of the dividend issued on the ETF we invested
(you might need to grind back this post discussion)

- The DIY way you recommended if I'm not wrong, only can claim back 15% right?

2) DCA friendly 1

We are doing DCA monthly, weekly. Majority here are doing investing with small cap

- I did read on the DIY post of yours, which recomended RM18k Ringgit to 4k Euro as minimum for wire transfer via Instarem to CapTrader German.

I dont have that much frankly  bye.gif

3) DCA friendly 2

SA is much more DCA friendly I guess, in contrast to your DIY method with hassle process of weekly transfer (and as discussed in 2nd point, we cant't transfer transfer amount like few hundred ain't we?)

Correct me if I'm wrong, the DIY method is more Lump Sum Strategy friendly.

4) Diversify

SA already recommended the combination based on our risk index, we cannot invest in just S&P500, and we don't need to actively manage the portfolio combination.

So indirectly it diversifies the risk as well based on our risk index, we might argue that hoot only on S&P500 could get higher return, instead of SA combination, but it does come with the benefit of lower risk i guess?

Finally, for me, I really don't have the time to actively manage the portfolio, as well managing the hassle of weekly DIY and wire transferring,again the DCA friendliness issue.
Correct me if any info above is wrong, my personal two cents.
Might consider your way if it is arguably much more DCA friendlier than Stashaway, since who don't prefer lower fee  icon_idea.gif
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Yea. Basically this.
But hope AW will come faster and see what SA can counter offer.

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post Mar 6 2019, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 5 2019, 11:42 PM)
Then, if let's say ur nest egg got rm18k above, will u exit SA and go DIY?
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Initial 18k only or each trx also need 18k?
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post Mar 6 2019, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 6 2019, 10:50 AM)
Initial and each
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Wow.

It's a big NO.

For small player FX also very important.

Entry at 4.2 and 4.08 make a really huge difference.

18k each is like lump sump but not DCA.

Unless you are at k/ income level. That's should be OK.

Monthly DCA 18k. LOL.if quarterly 18k also gg for most Malaysian.
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post Mar 6 2019, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 6 2019, 11:34 AM)
Or u can dca SA first, then once 18k ready then DIY mode. Think longer time fame... Each year eat u 0.07% annual charge only, where to find?
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Good idea too. But since SA is only 10% of my total port. I personally don't really bother much haha.
Hmm. But your .07 can't claim back 30% correct?
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post Mar 6 2019, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Mar 6 2019, 11:43 AM)
Instead of encouraging SA users to switch, why not just see them as different products? Which I think they are. They overlap yeah, but I think they are kind of for different users, although also targeting the "mass affluent" group.

Millionaire spotted!
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What millionaire la.... Invitation also don't have you la millionaire.
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post Mar 6 2019, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 6 2019, 11:49 AM)
Agree. SA still provide value by allowing DCA. Gooding. But long term wise, I cNt justify every year eat 0.8% rain or shine.
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SA better because lower entry and dca friendly.

30% claim back.

And AAXJ GLD CWB REITS which I think is a good diversification.

Sp500 alone..... Hmmm..... Not so good.

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post Mar 6 2019, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Mar 6 2019, 12:14 PM)
WTF are you talking about? Many pages ago I did post about stashaway's broker saxo actually claiming all 30% back on treasuries, except CWB, albeit with a delay.

BTW I have the Bogleheads book and I read it, we've been agreeing that StashAway offers better diversity at lower min buy in, and quick auto div reinvestment for most of us ikan bilis in Malaysia. What's with the constant attacks in this thread trying to get us put a substantial amount in something we do not have easy access to, or when shit hits the fan, we don't have home ground advantage to get legal help? What vested interest do you have in us hooting ur SPY directly, why not buy VTSAX/VTWAX?
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Mar 6 2019, 12:32 PM)
Anyway just beware of ppl asserting falsehoods in this thread for their own gains.

If you searched the topic with 'withholding' and 'claim', you can see I have posted several screenshots of their e-mail and google sheet tallying with their tax refund before concluding we actually got back all 30% on treasuries and partial refund on CWB.
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Chill la haha...

Maybe he is still new in this

As long as we know our own stuff we are good to go.

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post Mar 6 2019, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Mar 6 2019, 01:13 PM)
might need to grind around discussion around these post no.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=91377771
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry91377771

Post TS might consider to post all these highlight in the first post and claim servicing fee from StashAway haha
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I am on my way to compile all worthy information into new thread.

Half way. Lol. 60 pages weiiiiii
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post Mar 6 2019, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Mar 6 2019, 01:31 PM)
Yea discoverability a bit poor here. Just don't really like people asserting something untrue instead of asking first.
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He still new la I suppose...

** Btw, all profile drop a bit no matter what risk profile.
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post Mar 7 2019, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 7 2019, 02:15 PM)
Ok, once got answer, I'll update on my side also. Now i put it on pending first.
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Keen to see your reply soon!
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post Mar 7 2019, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 7 2019, 04:03 PM)
I no SA customer. So need wait comrades here help confirm.
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You know you can easily join. And ask them the question you wish to.

No point marry go round.

Who knows you fall in love with SA.
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post Mar 7 2019, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Mar 7 2019, 04:07 PM)
RM 1 to be a customer  devil.gif
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Actually do we really need to be one then only can sent them email? I don't think so.

Non customer can't ask question before join?
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post Mar 7 2019, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 7 2019, 04:56 PM)
dunno also... SA thread should exist to serve both actual and potential customers, and I'm the latter.

Just now say 30% confirm can claim, now 16%, please give the exact answer and not misleading people leh.
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It's strange that people actually PM you instead of asking here.

We here just share experience.

If deviate a bit also can't la? There is always room for you to contact SA directly instead of beating the bush here.

If I wan to get proper answer, honestly I will ask SA instead of asking here base on the experience shared.

If we must tell what's correct, then I think we should get a fraction of 0.8% then.
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post Mar 7 2019, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Mar 7 2019, 05:02 PM)
Nola, anyone can email or contact them
You can probably even use the whatsapp feature with RM0 in your portfolio haha
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That's why I feel strange lo.

I think he thought we worked under SA.

SA, where is our salary!!!
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post Mar 7 2019, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 7 2019, 05:19 PM)
i dunno...here's the logic

1) alex come here ask SA why gooding?
2) ppl here explain
3) they say got 30% tax claim back
4) alex eye big, fuiyoh, macam yes, fact check xia
5) then alex say macam no, kena marah (moderator duno go whr)
6) then previously say 30% got, now 16%, and now ask alex go ask SA agent straight
7) i also pening d
8) ok im leaving really, for now. I'll come back SA if got gooding stuff.
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Sorry la if offended you by any means

If you wish to complain to mod. It's ok. I welcome you.

lucifah

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post Mar 7 2019, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 7 2019, 08:49 PM)
Thanks bro. No boss here, kuli only. smile.gif

Based on my answers to the questionairres and age group (I guess), I was given a risk index of 14. I also opened a second portfolio and manually adjusted the risk index to 18.

So I can compare both portfolios in the future.
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14 and 18 not much diff I suppose.
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post Mar 8 2019, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 8 2019, 07:39 AM)
Thanks for the replies. I think you guys are right. Not much difference between risk index 14 and 18.

Maybe I should have 2 different portfolios with risk index 14 and 28-30. Then I can see the difference.
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