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 StashAway MY, New instrument for Malaysian?

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post Feb 13 2019, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(hiyyl @ Feb 13 2019, 10:24 AM)
Any idea how fast is the transfer for jompay?
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No idea. Never use jompay before.
QUOTE(nickcct @ Feb 13 2019, 10:29 AM)
JomPay available already?
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post Feb 13 2019, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(nickcct @ Feb 13 2019, 10:40 AM)
Desktop version? My app dont seem have that option
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Yea. Desktop ver.
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post Feb 13 2019, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Feb 13 2019, 11:00 AM)
Hi, can I get a referral from any account holders here? I am interested to get on-board. Thanks!
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Can pm krv honsiong or preuser
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post Feb 13 2019, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(ahpooki @ Feb 13 2019, 01:17 PM)
oh...okok (where is the date ah...? i dont seem to see it on the stashaway website...lol)
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Can be seen in app. Bottom of performance.
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post Feb 13 2019, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(ahpooki @ Feb 13 2019, 01:27 PM)
okok..thanks...  thumbup.gif  maybe chinese new year period kot...
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This few days seem to be have some glitch.

Yesterday late reflect too.

Hope they quickly fix it.
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post Feb 13 2019, 03:47 PM

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CIO insight from SA seems better than FSM research article.


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post Feb 13 2019, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Feb 13 2019, 03:53 PM)
I wonder how they calculate the time rated total returns
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yea. I wish they had table like FSM does.

I don't know how much the price when I buy etc etc. How much I really gain etc
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post Feb 13 2019, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 13 2019, 04:57 PM)
Hmm, I can see "P&L since inception", I guess that sort of counts for something?
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That's is not enough... A buy average cost. Current price, amount gain, amount lost, we need number. Not percentage.

But just 3 months old... Is ok.... Huge room to improve.
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post Feb 14 2019, 11:46 AM

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Just a reminder to all.

Boost is having partnership with SA.

3 MYR for 3 month management fee off. It's a good deal.
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post Feb 14 2019, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Feb 14 2019, 12:10 PM)
For portfolio value > RM 1500
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DCA will eventually bring you more than that. Thus, one can keep will may, which is the day before June, the expiry day.
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post Feb 14 2019, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Feb 14 2019, 01:14 PM)
You mean use it on end of May?
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Yea. If your port is less than 1500 as you mentioned. You can use before the expiry date.
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post Feb 14 2019, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(pinan @ Feb 14 2019, 03:37 PM)
My interest in information on fees charged by Stashaway is to better inform myself and hopefully others investing with Stashaway. It is not a meant as a criticism against Stashaway, nor am I saying that they are "expensive".

Nevertheless, the answer to what is "cheaper" would ultimately depend on what type of investor you are.

For the sake of discussion, lets assume that the preferred style of investing is passive, the time horizon for the investment is around 30 years before you retire and the choice is between buying and owning the US ETFs directly or investing with a robo advisor like Stashaway.

Stashaway's barrier of entry and upfront costs are indeed much lower than going through the hassle of opening a brokerage account with TD Ameritrade or IB to trade US ETFs. Even though Stashaway is fully transparent in what they are investing in and you can just buy the same exact ETFs in the same proportions if you wish to, it arguably also wins out in terms of time and effort required for currency exchange and getting the transactions done.

However, it is worth noting that Stashaway's 0.8%-0.2% annual fee is charged onto your total assets under management (including any returns earned) and is deducted directly from there monthly. Using the analysis in this Youtube video which compares the fees charged by the US robo advisors (with rates as low as 0.25%) and directly owning a Vanguard ETF, the amount of fees paid over the course of 30 or even 40 years could add up to staggering amounts.

Of course the analysis in the youtube video is not directly applicable to the context of Malaysian investors like us who do not enjoy the same ease of access and low trading fees via vanguard or platforms like robinhood. But even in our context, the amount of fees charged by Stashaway over time would definitely add up to being much more than buying and owning the US ETFs directly, albeit to a lesser degree.

Stashaway has pros and cons. For an investment novice like myself who doesn't have enough capital to maintain a brokerage account with TD Ameritrade or IB, Stashaway is indeed a "Cheaper" choice and may be able to bring better returns that the 4.x% FDs currently available out there.
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But 0.8% is indeed a little bit high.

Let's see what they can offer in the long term.

I remember last time FSM offer 2.0% for UT. After 10 years, they lower down to 1.75.

Who knows SA could follow if they really monopoly in SG and MY?
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post Feb 14 2019, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Feb 14 2019, 04:12 PM)
That's only sales charge right? the annual expense ratio of most EQ unit trust is double of SA..
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Correct.

That's only SC. Havent count in other fees yet which usually comes quarterly.
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post Feb 14 2019, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(besiegetank @ Feb 14 2019, 06:27 PM)
hmm anyone receive the invitation to attend the feedback session with SA? If go can get fee waives for 6 months...but will it stack with the referral free waiver? If yes then no point to participate then
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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 14 2019, 06:29 PM)
Did get the invite. Am tempted to go check it out anyway.
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is it via email? I dint get it...
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post Feb 14 2019, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 14 2019, 07:38 PM)
Via email. Checked your spam?
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checked.

How is it look like? I only get the feedback mail but not invitation lol
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post Feb 14 2019, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 14 2019, 08:37 PM)
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Maybe I invested penny not pound. Amount is too small for them.

Sob sob.

My free annual fee only last up to June... I wish to extend it also tabuli. Kena charge liao Q319

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post Feb 14 2019, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 14 2019, 08:48 PM)
Pretty certain your AUM is among the highest here tongue.gif
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How I wish to. LOL

Seeing FD thread there 1mil per cert is like buying vege for them. That one baru hebat.

I poor till annual fee also calculated day and night liao.
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post Feb 14 2019, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 14 2019, 09:03 PM)
ooooooooh fuuuuuuug now only I looked properly.

I did not realise that the 0% annual fee promo is only up to RM30k >_<

Now that you mentioned it only did I took a proper look at the promo tab
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you go for the invitation la. 50k.

** your AUM sure more than 30k liao I konpen. Sob sob. My amount really penny liao

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post Feb 14 2019, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 14 2019, 09:06 PM)
Yeah, looks like I have to. Totally took it for granted.
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lai share la. you DCA all the way up to 30k plus? Or lump sump?
the +4% nice boh.
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post Feb 14 2019, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(ViktorJ @ Feb 14 2019, 09:11 PM)
I lump sumped above that, have not really DCA'd yet.
+4%? nolah, am using the 6.5, so only uh +2.8% in USD, 0% MYR (yeah, my timing sucked big time)
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Lump sump 6.5 should be fine as they are really stagnant now. Just the currency impact is great LOL.



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