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unknown warrior
post Aug 8 2018, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 8 2018, 12:51 AM)
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nothing new lah.

if we are persecuted in the middle east and in moslem countries....china ape bezanya?
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:16 AM

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You all sure or not, my colleague is a Catholic from Henan, I show her the article (thank god for VPNs), she was like "Chow your mother" then phoned her parents to ask, nothing also, like normal only.
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:18 AM

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Lol. 2nd post sudah try derail. kimK betoi lol
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:21 AM

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daily mail


you can expect fake news



China did have tremendous zeal to crack down illegal cult, which apply to all religion


example of those being crack down by big brother who claim to be Christian is such as eastern lightning and some radicals inspired by witness Lee teaching


so I will usually take this kind of news with gigantic sack of salt
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 8 2018, 09:11 AM)
nothing new lah.

if we are persecuted in the middle east and in moslem countries....china ape bezanya?
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how about the pagan religions the Christian churches have persecuted and vanquished in the past? I bet they were not alive today to tell you how they were treated by the Christians in the past.

The Obelisk that stands in the Vatican city today was pillaged from the Roman Temple.

how about the white man's burden that drove their evangelism in the East, with the subjugation of China and surrendering of Hongkong and Macao to the Christian West?

The Chinese learned from history, and yes they remembered how the White men came to their shores with their religion 200 years ago, along with their army.

apa bezanya?

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post Aug 8 2018, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 8 2018, 09:21 AM)
daily mail
you can expect fake news
China did have tremendous zeal to crack down illegal cult, which apply to all religion
example of those being crack down by big brother who claim to be Christian is such as eastern lightning and some radicals inspired by witness Lee teaching
so I will usually take this kind of news with gigantic sack of salt
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Beware later kena high blood pressure..... too much salt..... tongue.gif
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(rage-quit @ Aug 8 2018, 09:24 AM)
how about the pagan religions the Christian churches have persecuted and vanquished in the past? I bet they were not alive today to tell you how they were treated by the Christians in the past.

The Obelisk that stands in the Vatican city today was pillaged from the Roman Temple.

how about the white man's burden that drove their evangelism in the East, with the subjugation of China and surrendering of Hongkong and Macao to the Christian West?

The Chinese learned from history, and yes they remembered how the White men came to their shores with their religion 200 years ago, along with their army.

apa bezanya?
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beza nya ada lah ini.

today China and Middle east still persecute Christians but today we no longer do things as in the dark ages.
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(magasel @ Aug 8 2018, 09:07 AM)
China Christians memorize the bible in their head.

And they meet in groups of 10 in houses for meetings.

There is no way China can curb them.

Christians live on persecution, the more you persecute them, the more they thrive.
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:34 AM

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Because these churches not preaching about how great Jesus is, but preaching about how bad CCP is. So kena roboh la. Some under the pretext of Buddhist but actually teach followers how bad CCP is also kena roboh.
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:35 AM

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In some country, the only god is M O N E Y......ada money ada god, vice versa.
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 8 2018, 09:27 AM)
beza nya ada lah ini.
but today we no longer do things as in the dark ages.
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How about proselytizing to non-christian family and make them fight each other over religion?

Children no longer want to sit with parents or join them for festivals, etc.

Maybe not persecution to you, but it is persecution to the family who raise the children.

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post Aug 8 2018, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 8 2018, 03:50 AM)
So?
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foreign intervention...

QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 8 2018, 11:11 AM)
Do that first
Before speak & made a lie
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my bad...

QUOTE(flyingmalayman @ Aug 8 2018, 11:13 AM)
Typical PH macai

Spread wrong first, when damaged done apologized later
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u got balls to apologize? or wahababi only?
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Aug 8 2018, 12:49 AM)
This one is scammer lamtin la
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Aug 8 2018, 01:16 AM)
There is only one god in China.

He is Emperor Xi of Chinese Communist Party Dynasty.
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No Winnie the pooh is new emperor
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(IdiuU @ Aug 8 2018, 12:46 AM)
yet all hardcore commie fans say tongsan gt freedom...
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post Aug 8 2018, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Aug 8 2018, 01:06 AM)
already say mistake... apa lagi wahabi mau?..
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post Aug 8 2018, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(rage-quit @ Aug 8 2018, 09:35 AM)
How about proselytizing to non-christian family and make them fight each other over religion?

Children no longer want to sit with parents or join them for festivals, etc.

Maybe not persecution to you, but it is persecution to the family who raise the children.
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Good that your initial question has been debunked.

To your next question;

Persecution means "hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs; oppression".

Hence to use this definition on family dispute over religion would suit more on the one resisting "proselytizing" because in no way the one "proselytizing" would do it with hostility. It is usually the one who resist are being hostile.


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post Aug 8 2018, 10:37 AM

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some will says this is prosecution

China executes two cult members for McDonald's murder

2 February 2015

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Image captionZhang Lidong (pictured) and his daughter were executed for the woman's murder

Two members of a cult in China have been executed for murdering a woman in a McDonald's restaurant in Shandong, according to a local court.

Zhang Lidong and his daughter Zhang Fan were members of the banned Church of the Almighty God cult.

They were part of a group who attempted to recruit the 35-year-old victim, Wu Shuoyan, in the restaurant in the town of Zhaoyuan in May 2014.

When she refused to give her phone number, they beat her to death.

The Shandong Yantai Intermediate People's Court announced the Zhangs' execution on its Weibo account (in Chinese) on Monday morning, noting that the father and daughter had "committed murder and used a cult to intentionally break the law".

The group was found guilty in October last year. Three others were give jail sentences ranging from seven years to life imprisonment.

Image captionThe murder took place at a McDonald's outlet in a town called Zhaoyuan, in Shandong provinceImage captionThe beating was captured on mobile phones by shocked customers in the restaurant

The court's statement said that Zhang Fan had asked Ms Wu for her contact details twice. When the victim refused, the group believed that she was "possessed by an evil spirit", and Zhang Fan threw a chair at her.

The rest of the group joined in the attack and beat her with mops brought by Zhang Lidong, who also stamped on Ms Wu's head and face. She died at the scene from her injuries.

Zhang Lidong said in an interview later that he believed Ms Wu was a demon and that "we had to destroy her".

Since the killing, which sparked public outrage, the Chinese authorities have detained hundreds of members of the cult.

The cult's core belief is that God has returned to earth as a Chinese woman to wreak the apocalypse. The only person who claims direct contact with this god is a former physics teacher, Zhao Weishan, who founded the cult 25 years ago and has since fled to the United States.

It claims on its website that it has millions of followers and says nearly 400,000 have been arrested between 2011 and 2014.


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Aug 8 2018, 09:43 AM)
foreign intervention...
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