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ARMI85
post Sep 7 2024, 11:12 AM

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I am owner of Proton Persona Elegance manual... Own it from 2010 until now... The car is easy to maintain, spare part price is affordable.... Since i work as engineer, I've been train to keep record on all maintenance history of my car... So here I share the total cost ownership of the car and also mileage history yearly that I record base on my personal experience...

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post Sep 7 2024, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(peanut @ Aug 20 2024, 06:07 PM)
Thx sifus. Will give Zordaq a call and get a quote. So far still drives ok, only got "kluk kluk" sound when goin over bad surfaces. Very sayang my Persona, long live our Personas!
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I have change all the parts related to handling for my 2010 Persona at Zordaq, if you got enough money, request orignal parts from Proton, it last longer...but the price to some people is premium...
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post Sep 7 2024, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Jul 1 2024, 10:54 PM)
Anyone have rebuilt their engine? Hope can share cost here...
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I do not have experience rebuilt my engine but I change the whole engine because my original engine get hole when my car get into flash flood...I just having bad day where it heavy rain, my aircond not working, the front mirror start condensation, cannot see clearly the road and unfortunately i get into flash flood...the workshop where i normally send my car suggest to change engine instead of repair it...i just withdraw 10K from KWSP and there goes my money... 2 years have past, it running around 60,000km with new engine and still running good now...

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post Sep 9 2024, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Sep 8 2024, 02:08 PM)
What you do in 2022 and 2023?
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Hello Mike, you can refer my detail spending on 2022-2023.
2022 my car get into flash flood get hole on the engine and i change new engine.
2023 i do lot of replacement for parts affected by the flood


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post Sep 13 2024, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(aki^what @ Sep 10 2024, 09:36 AM)
Better fast change. the pressure is quite high. two months before because of the radiator clamp hose faulty, coolant leaks and after repair, water pump burst. Then need to skim head. terus top overhaul la. mileage now is 430000km. Persona standard 2013.
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Wow, 430,000km...you drive a lot i will said... thumbup.gif
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post Sep 17 2024, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Sep 16 2024, 09:09 PM)
how long it lasts so far? scared use not original part will become faulty just in short time end up spend more.

i for sure now won't use non original tensioner.
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I check at Persona Facebook Group, original starter should be from APM brand, if you purchase other brand; OEM, very difficult to know how long it can last. Unless other have experience and can share it here. My original starter can last more than 11 years (Dec 2010 - Jul 2022)....when change new one i did miss out to look on the brand because i was outstation and just trust my regular mechanic who change it for me...cost me RM380 (i believe this is quite expensive if you compare what being offer in Shopee nowadays come with 1 year warranty (shown in receipt) but now already pass 1 year and still working fine...
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post Sep 18 2024, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Sep 17 2024, 03:12 PM)
Do be aware that even original is made by APM, the after market APM might be different than what APM made for proton. I learned that by buying APM alternator and the one i got (sworn by spare part shop it's persona elegance APM alrernator) and the one swapping out with PW number looks totally different.

Original does makes difference so does the price.

Note: The APM alternator didn't last as long as the original Proton's made by APM alternator. Died on it's second year.
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Your alternator die on second year ? ...that is too fast... hmm.gif
When my car get into flood, the workshop i send my car change the alternator with not sure what brand of alternator (cost me RM580), it can only last for 16 DAYS...
how i know there is problem ?...Symptom; My NEW BATTERY become FLAT...
After that i go back to the workshop upgrade the alternator because it still under warranty and they upgrade to Mitsubishi alternator (add another RM100)...
It just past 1 year and 2 moths...still monitoring how long this new alternator can last...hope it can last for several years at least...
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post Sep 18 2024, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Sep 18 2024, 09:41 PM)
Ya, Few spare part shop that i went no NTN for ABS version. And try call for further shop, price almost same as original RM160 per pc.
Maybe i will go for China new oem. Just even that also different shop carry different 1, price + - 10 to 20. Less than RM100, but labour itself already RM60 per side. Maybe i just change the 1 have problem.

Did you change before? 1 side or both side?
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I change my rear left bearing brand NTN when my car mileage at 307,000++km somewhere in 2022...
Only change one side cost me RM240...
The workshop told me the best is to change both rear side but i decide to change only one side...
The original bearing can last 12 years (2010-2022)
Now i think the other side of the bearing start giving sound..
But i just let it be...
Once the sound become worst only i change... rclxs0.gif
My mantra on my car "Don't change the part unless IT REALLY NEED TO BE CHANGE... ":idea:
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post Sep 22 2024, 03:42 PM

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I have problem, seat belt on driver side, i think the spring no more functioning, it do not retract by itself. So some time the metal part will be lay at the door, then you close the door it hit and dent the door area. Anyone here already change this part before ? You change the whole seat belt set or you just change the spring part ? Please share your experience....

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post Sep 24 2024, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 23 2024, 12:16 AM)
Have to change whole set bro, the internal mechanism is not replaceable. Bought the part and DIY change myself this year for front passenger side.
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Owh, ok... I also see from Youtube on DIY video on how to change this part..
seem like a lot to do...
Most likely I will ask my standard workshop to buy and install it for me in my next visit.... tongue.gif

How much is the new set belt you purchase ?
You buy from Shopee ?

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post Sep 24 2024, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 24 2024, 11:55 AM)
Around RM100-110 like that, bought from Shopee, first shop sent me I think Perodua type which is on my photo, can see differences not fit so I return refund.
Second shop I buy Proton Savvy type, can use but height position is fixed cannot change. I think if want similar one will need around RM160 so I didn't buy that. Using Proton Savvy type now still good.
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Ok, thank you for your sharing. Will update here once i change it.
If not next month, will be next 2 months.
Wait until time to change engine oil then can do together change seat belt... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 17 2024, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Oct 8 2024, 11:08 AM)
hi...want to ask about my persona elegance 2010...

a workshop quote me to change the parts for the rear lower arm as per below price....it is a fair price?

REAR LOWER ARM - rm 270 set
REAR AXLE SET KIRI KANAN - rm 140 (oem) / rm 350 (ori) set
CASTER ARM PANJANG / PENDEK - rm 110 (oem) / rm 300 (ori) set
REAR STABILIZER LINK  -  rm 100 (oem) / rm 220 (ori)  set
REAR BAR BUSH - rm 30 (oem) / rm 60 (ori)
DRIVESHAFT R/H -  rm 300 (oem) / rm 700 (ori) 1pc
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You can refer price i get from Zordaq on 2020.
Now maybe more expensive


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post Oct 17 2024, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Oct 17 2024, 11:34 AM)
original proton part?
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Yes this one price for original Proton Part....
Zordaq normally keep stock for Proton original part....
But better you ask them first before proceed change part... smile.gif
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post Dec 24 2024, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Tirek @ Nov 3 2024, 06:20 PM)
Has anyone of you flush your aircond ?

Heard there is possibility it might badly worsening your aircond that already not cold

Any thought about this ?
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Base on my personal experience on my Persona ownership from brand new 2010 until now 2024, once the car getting old, you need to do flushing yearly to get good performance of the aircond. After one year, without service, the aircond would not feel cold as it should be. You can refer on my aircond service history as shown in picture below... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 24 2024, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Dec 17 2024, 11:44 AM)
Hi guys is the meter fuel consumption is accurate?
Recently always show 7.5L/100km which previously can shown in between 6.7L to 7.3L/100km.
Anyone facing this issue too?
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My car is manual, purchase on 2010.
Unfortunately on 2022 it get into flash flood at 300K km and need me to change new engine.
On 2024, the best fuel consumption i get is 6.9 L/100km.
Currently fuel consumption at 7.1 L/100km.

I bring the car to work everyday.
My driving style normally i change gear before rpm exceed 2000.
Only at time i need more power, will push rpm around 3000 before change gear... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 26 2024, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 26 2024, 06:31 PM)
How much you spent for new engine bro? Can claim flood insurance? Bought from Proton SC?
My one is Gen2 kosong, more worse the torque dip and heavy FC, now the car mostly used for near distance driving or working use.

After drove newer 2.0L car, already addicted with the power and acceleration, drive back Gen2 always feel slow to get up to speed.
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The engine I purchase from workshop where I normally send my car.
It cost me RM4,900 just for the engine.
After that they recommend me to change other part as well.
In total it cost me almost 8.6k to complete change the engine number in the road tax at Puspakom as well.

At that time I just take out 10K from KWSP.
First i plan to make it as my emergency fund.
Eventually almost all the money go to my car.

You can refer total cost on the image.

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post Jan 1 2025, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 30 2024, 03:00 PM)
I think I've spent more than RM25k throughout 13 years to maintain my car although low mileage.
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I have spend 42K ++ for my Persona maintenance for the period of 14 years of ownership.
369,000km ++ and counting....
Replace engine one time because it got into flash flood...

Just finish year end trip from Shah Alam - Menatakab - Kuala Terengganu - Kota Bharu - Shah Alam , more than 1000km, 3 days trip...
I'm happy with the car...
Still give me smile when driving at Karak highway all the way until Genting Sempah and go down to Gombak toll...
one driver surprise me in that road is Toyota Hilux brough durian half full who i give way because he drive like Bunta... tongue.gif
Respect to the driver...

You can refer my full record of ownership on screenshot below;

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post Jan 2 2025, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 1 2025, 01:54 PM)
Hilux carrying durian is very dangerous, my other car was hit by that when front suddenly emergency brake. My car already stopped for a while still kena hit from behind.
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Owh, think about it again, yes, better to let them pass.
They are heavier and will take longer distance to stop.
The smart move is to follow at their back.
Let them be the road opener for you like an escort for VIP... brows.gif
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post Jan 12 2025, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 11 2025, 08:17 PM)
Found out that there is actually some quality difference between cheapo no brand and original proton part, even for the small rubber part.

One side I use absorber link original proton. The other side bought "mitsubishi" brand super cheap on shopee. 1 year later, the cheap part was reduced to rubbery rot. Proton part is still looking good.
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Agree on this... That is why i normally purchase original Proton parts from well known workshop like Zordaq just to be sure I get the genuine parts...
It can last longer but the price is quite expensive compare to the part price you can purchase at Shopee (but difficult to know the quality and reliability)

Zordaq sometime share how you can differentiate between original and fake part...

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