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iskazulka
post Aug 2 2019, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 1 2019, 03:58 PM)
Huh, then I need to check my radiator d.
My dad said it might be fan relay problem.  confused.gif
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check radiator coolant. check radiator, etc.

if it's relay problem, usually fan will spin non stop until battery kaput cannot start the car.
you case is still ok.

tiptop3999
post Aug 2 2019, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 2 2019, 02:27 PM)
iinm around rm70 with labour

since 5 years already, even-though low mileage 65k, did not reach 80k yet, i suggest to replace the timing belt.
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How many litre required for power steering fluid? I heard power steering fluid is actually atf?
wklow28
post Aug 2 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 2 2019, 02:29 PM)
check radiator coolant. check radiator, etc.

if it's relay problem, usually fan will spin non stop until battery kaput cannot start the car.
you case is still ok.
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Ya, today happen again. bangwall.gif

But stop after 10 minutes... sweat.gif
iskazulka
post Aug 2 2019, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 2 2019, 04:03 PM)
Ya, today happen again.  bangwall.gif

But stop after 10 minutes... sweat.gif
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might as well visit workshop to diagnose.


iskazulka
post Aug 2 2019, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(tiptop3999 @ Aug 2 2019, 03:31 PM)
How many litre required for power steering fluid? I heard power steering fluid is actually atf?
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can use special power steering fluid or ATF fluid.

iinm referring to my proton saga IF use ATF fluid, use around 1L (use actual around 0.5L)

gearbox oil use 4.25L, from 5 bottles, 4.25L for gearbox, then the rest i told mech to change power steering fluid using the balance. after change also got little balance.

no experience for person though.

so roughly, change gearbox oil (usually 40K change , change 1 shot power steering)

p/s: i buy ATF fluid outside, so just pay for labour (gear box & power steering fluid change around rm30-40 i guess)

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post Aug 2 2019, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 2 2019, 04:17 PM)
can use special power steering fluid or ATF fluid.

iinm referring to my proton saga IF use ATF fluid, use around 1L (use actual around 0.5L)

gearbox oil use 4.25L, from 5 bottles, 4.25L for gearbox, then the rest i told mech to change power steering fluid using the balance. after change also got little balance.

no experience for person though.

so roughly, change gearbox oil (usually 40K change , change 1 shot power steering)

p/s: i buy ATF fluid outside, so just pay for labour (gear box & power steering fluid change around rm30-40 i guess)
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I plan to do it proton SC... Not sure how much... If flush the whole system 1 litre enough?
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post Aug 2 2019, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(tiptop3999 @ Aug 2 2019, 04:39 PM)
I plan to do it proton SC... Not sure how much... If flush the whole system 1 litre enough?
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more than enough.
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post Aug 3 2019, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 2 2019, 04:56 PM)
more than enough.
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I just found that the manual stated 0.8l ATF DEXRON as power steering fluid, if I use ATF SP3 as power steering oil can or not ? hmm.gif
iskazulka
post Aug 3 2019, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(tiptop3999 @ Aug 3 2019, 12:09 AM)
I just found that the manual stated 0.8l ATF DEXRON as power steering fluid, if I use ATF SP3 as power steering oil can or not ?  hmm.gif
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proton also use atf sp3.
the answer is yes.
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post Aug 4 2019, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 2 2019, 04:03 PM)
Ya, today happen again.  bangwall.gif

But stop after 10 minutes... sweat.gif
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Boss, when the engine is cold, open your radiator cap (not spare tank), try pour in coolant/distilled water, you may surprised you need to fill-up another 300ml to make it full.

I suspect your radiator is only 3/4 filled due to air-lock inside. When you replace coolant/change water pump outside, many technician don't know our car need to do air bleeding.
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post Aug 5 2019, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 4 2019, 11:47 AM)
Boss, when the engine is cold, open your radiator cap (not spare tank), try pour in coolant/distilled water, you may surprised you need to fill-up another 300ml to make it full.

I suspect your radiator is only 3/4 filled due to air-lock inside. When you replace coolant/change water pump outside, many technician don't know our car need to do air bleeding.
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So u are saying this is due to the coolant level in the water tank?
Later I go check, cool2.gif
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post Aug 5 2019, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 5 2019, 10:47 AM)
So u are saying this is due to the coolant level in the water tank?
Later I go check,  cool2.gif
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The radiator itself... The middle radiator cap...
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https://pandulaju.com.my/apanakbuat-diy-14-...coolant-kereta/
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post Aug 5 2019, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 3 2019, 05:47 PM)
proton also use atf sp3.
the answer is yes.
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Just gt the power steering fluid chnaged, cost me rm90 at proton sc... they fluhsed the whole power tseering system and used 2 litre of atf ....
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post Aug 6 2019, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 2 2019, 04:03 PM)
Ya, today happen again.  bangwall.gif

But stop after 10 minutes... sweat.gif
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Check the thermostat. If the thermostat KO, you'll see the temperature rise more than half when the car is idle.
But when moving, it's okay.

Since the water pump is powered by the engine, faster you go, the air pressure will push open the valves.

Replaced mine recently for 2009 car flex.gif
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post Aug 7 2019, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(shakku @ Aug 6 2019, 04:27 PM)
Check the thermostat. If the thermostat KO, you'll see the temperature rise more than half when the car is idle.
But when moving, it's okay.

Since the water pump is powered by the engine, faster you go, the air pressure will push open the valves.

Replaced mine recently for 2009 car  flex.gif
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I found there're 2 variant of Proton thermostat... 78'c and 82'c, which one you using now? 4'c temp difference got huge effect or not?
Actually I'm surveying low temp thermostat, but very rare for campro engine. Wira Mitsubishi got a lot low temp thermostat selling in market.
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post Aug 7 2019, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(shakku @ Aug 6 2019, 04:27 PM)
Check the thermostat. If the thermostat KO, you'll see the temperature rise more than half when the car is idle.
But when moving, it's okay.

Since the water pump is powered by the engine, faster you go, the air pressure will push open the valves.

Replaced mine recently for 2009 car  flex.gif
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Thanks for your advice.
Will go check on the thermostat too~~ thumbup.gif
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post Aug 7 2019, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 7 2019, 09:00 AM)
I found there're 2 variant of Proton thermostat... 78'c and 82'c, which one you using now? 4'c temp difference got huge effect or not?
Actually I'm surveying low temp thermostat, but very rare for campro engine. Wira Mitsubishi got a lot low temp thermostat selling in market.
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Looks like Persona Elegance punya is 82°C version.

https://protonperoduaparts.com.my/en/coolin...n-original.html
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post Aug 7 2019, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 4 2019, 11:47 AM)
Boss, when the engine is cold, open your radiator cap (not spare tank), try pour in coolant/distilled water, you may surprised you need to fill-up another 300ml to make it full.

I suspect your radiator is only 3/4 filled due to air-lock inside. When you replace coolant/change water pump outside, many technician don't know our car need to do air bleeding.
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I kena this problem after changing to new radiator, the goddam foreman doesn’t know how to bleed the air well, such basic thing also they don’t know. I never go back to that workshop anymore. Scary man. Suddenly engine temp nearly hit Max.
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post Aug 7 2019, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Aug 1 2019, 10:11 AM)
Any one encounter after engine off, the fan still running for 10-15 minutes itself before off?
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I had this problem when my radiator is leaking coolant , it means the cooling system is not that efficient. After changing new radiator, never had such problem already.

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