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 -+♠+-LYN Proton Persona IAFM Owners Club V55-+♠+-, The besi buruk counting it's days.

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post May 5 2019, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ May 5 2019, 09:03 AM)
Wait Zen reply I guess

On a side note, full AC service roughly how much and what do I need to keep an eye on?
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have to do major service.

since you never done aircond service before, need to change all, if lucky no need to change compressor. need at least 1k+ without compressor.

ps: based on my experience on my saga.


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post May 5 2019, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ May 4 2019, 09:09 AM)
TBH, the persona sv that i am having now is problematic haha. I have replaced so many things for this 4 years old car .  sweat.gif Buy, luckily all small problem  laugh.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif Pls dont ask me to chnage car, no money sweat.gif Maybe sv = cheap version ? so the quality is questionable compared other version of Persona ?
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not because of cheap version or lemon unit.

more like it's normal for owning a car.
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post May 6 2019, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 6 2019, 09:30 AM)
interested to know also, my gen2 nowadays on hot day also AC not hot, night still ok cool, like seasoning aircond.
4 years back i serviced my ac with same symptom also, that time mechanic said aircond expansion valve blocked due to long time no service, changed to denso unit cold for 4 years now same problem back. so louzy only tahan 4 years only...
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change but not do preventive maintenance, deswai so lousy.
every year need to do normal service service. (change compressor oil, gas, receiver drier, expansion valve)
within every 3-4 years, need to do major service. (open dashboard, inspect / wash cooling coil, condenser, etc.)

change all the aircond parts systems and hope to last long, that is not a good mindset.
doing a preventive maintenance on your aircond systems juts like you do engne oil change, really do keep it last longer.

when car is even new, after a year use also need to do service, that is most new car owners neglect.

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post May 7 2019, 06:14 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ May 6 2019, 11:58 PM)
Dont really have one in mind as I have never serviced my aircon before. But there is one nearby my house that my friends goes to and its quite good. But its in Taman Puncak Jalil
every year seems abit extreme right?  tongue.gif  I think every 3 years seems more appropriate.

Btw my car is 8.5 years old and never had an aircon service before and its still cold.  brows.gif  brows.gif
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every year service is appropriate, if look at how long you use your car + aircond in a day/week/month. if frequent use, so once per year is good.

there are two types of service, 1 is normal service, another is major service.

whatever reasons all say, "aircond still cold, no need service" is one of common mistake car owners did.

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post May 9 2019, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 8 2019, 09:44 AM)
Persona IAFM has two fans up front, the smaller fan next to the radiator fan is for the AC, check if that one is spinning when AC is engaged.

Also even if the fan is spinning also doesn't mean it is spinning fast enough.

Your symptoms sound like the AC fan in front kong or losing power.
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he should go aircond workshop do inspection.

according to 1 aircond specialist i follow FB :

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Untuk simptom macam ni, kemungkinan masalah dah kronik. Antaranya :- – Compressor Tak kuat (rem minyak baru sejuk) – Kipas Condensor (tak cukup laju / langsung tak running) – Compressor Lose Power (tahap kronik minyak compressor hitam)



source : Azbi Centre

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post May 9 2019, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ May 7 2019, 08:00 PM)
Sounds like your condenser not dissipating heat as good as before already. I heard from mechanic if your air cond turns cold when you spray water on condenser unit, it's the condenser problem.

Anyway on servocing air-conditioning system it's controversial.. Some advocate service it with a certain mileage or time frame. Some others said that it's a closed system thus do not need service until it malfunction. I don't really know which one is the correct way of doing it.
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you should start learn about aircond servicing.

from source below, you will learn that aircond servicing is not just cleaning only, but also replacing parts, such as receiver drier and expansion valve.

yes, it's a closed system, so meaning if aircond not cold, it means gas leaking somewhere. no need ask topup gas because already leaking what for topup.
why need service? because inside airocnd got oil for compressor to work smoothly. when you neglect service, oil become bad, and make it clogged then it tends to leak. worse it you will forcing the compressor to work harder until one day it will be rosaked. see video understand more. i ask you simple question, why you change engine oil, power steering oil, brake oil, radiator coolant, gearbox fluid etc when you say it's a closed system? hope i make you clarify about it.



Source

p/s: i am noob non-car guy but i already experienced repairing my aircond, so gain extra jibai noob knowledge about aircond servicing.

my other source is LYN member @cheelam who got car aircond service

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2152035

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post May 24 2019, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ May 24 2019, 04:15 PM)
im using Amaron one from bateriku app. Very good so far, more than 1 year ady. Previously use Century Marathoner but kong in 1.5 and 2.5 years.
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i also vouch for amaron.
previous use from stock proton to century marathoner to century izu and now amaron go.

ps : use on proton saga.
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post Jun 19 2019, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Sona8 @ Jun 18 2019, 08:39 PM)
oh yes the aircon blower too, its cold but a bit weak in blowing air out - Proton Glen said its Rm444 for the blower.
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i suggest clean the filter and blower first.


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post Jun 20 2019, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(Sona8 @ Jun 19 2019, 05:53 PM)
Ya good idea iskazulka. Thanks.

i was excited that's why want to buy blower straight away... smile.gif

Do they have to open the whole dashboard to get to the filter and blower?
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no.






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post Jun 22 2019, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Jabraan @ Jun 22 2019, 01:41 AM)
hey guys, ayam gonna be a 2019 persona owner soon(loan approved waiting for car to arrive) and I don't see an owner's club for it so i assume all persona versions' owners follow this club right here? not sure if i'm in the right place  sweat.gif
SA say waiting list very long probably take mid-late July baru dapat, the wait is so agonizing  bangwall.gif
anyway just wanted to say Hi  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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new persona vvt thread

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4551846
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post Jun 22 2019, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Sona8 @ Jun 21 2019, 11:18 PM)
hi guys minor update...got my car

had to go thru flood just now... rclxub.gif  KL straight to Tek Ming Sunway to replace basic black iron rim to sport rims
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got balancing alignment done but after that .. car was vibrating when i release gas pedal

not sure if the rims issue or something else

by the time i got home in subang - strange noise from the engine bay
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as you got a 2nd car, you need to go workshop for detail inspection. / checkup.

this is a basic steps after getting a used car.

i hope the flood is not high. not advisable to drive thru flood unless from a safe flood height.

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post Jun 24 2019, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(123qwe @ Jun 24 2019, 11:06 AM)
been having trouble with my central locking, the lock will keep jump up and down for no reason...

everytime after replace the central locking module the problem will come back after few months..

anyone else have similar problem?
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replacr the driver side one?
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post Jun 24 2019, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(123qwe @ Jun 24 2019, 12:14 PM)
yep, been replace for 3 times,
tried ori proton parts.. 3rd party parts..
all not last.. wondering could it cause by wiring problem?
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i can think of :

try troubleshoot car key first.
use spare key. the main key put far far away.

other than that is maybe the central actuator kong or maybe alarm module.


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post Jun 24 2019, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(123qwe @ Jun 24 2019, 12:14 PM)
yep, been replace for 3 times,
tried ori proton parts.. 3rd party parts..
all not last.. wondering could it cause by wiring problem?
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post Jun 24 2019, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jun 24 2019, 01:02 PM)
Having the same problem with central locking, gila as it will suka2 locked while I am still let the door open triggered the alarm system. Now I just locking it manually and bought the steering lock as a theft precaution.
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if its locked only and not auto unlock still ok for me.

my saga same like you, after unlock, still auto lock after a few seconds even after open door. just make sure car key still in hand, just in case.


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post Jun 27 2019, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Jun 27 2019, 10:10 AM)
Not really have knowledge on this.  hmm.gif
But y need to disable the butterfly?
I thought it's a set pair together with the IAFM unit?
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disable the butterfly is cost lesser than change whole set IAFM.
change new IAFM still the problem will haunt back.
disable the butterfly = use back old IAFM but with side effect, like powerwoot say.
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post Jul 1 2019, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(se@n @ Jul 1 2019, 08:21 PM)
Hi sifus, my persona got problem with signal. Not blinking when indicate left or right, however, double signal and lock/unlock car signal working.

Did some research and found out something to do with relay, is that right? Please advice, and thx in advance.
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according to my saga, there should be a fuse for turn signal. check that first. fuse box located at dashboard near steering. then there is 1 fuse for alarm / turn LH and 1 fuse for alarm / turn RH. but highly possible is the turn signal fuse.
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post Jul 1 2019, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(se@n @ Jul 1 2019, 09:41 PM)
Found the fuze box, saw a black colour square box with 3 pin on it. I believe that was the relay and I went and plug it out and put it back in, now my signal work just fine.
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what relay did it mention anyway?

at least you mention the exact name so that in the future, can be a guideline for others.

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post Jul 1 2019, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jul 1 2019, 09:43 PM)
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yup, you heard that alright, rm140/pc and bought 2 pcs  replaced my front Rovelo. Not even 2 years my Rovelo almost botak. The grip is just excellent if I am going to compare the previous. My rear tyres are still good, GY Eagle NCT5 and I am looking forward to replaced it to the same as in front.
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if never do tyre rotation, tyres at front will wear out fast. as you know front tyres tend to wear out faster than rear tyre due to the weight of the engine in front.

i like you before, change only front tyres, then new one put at rear, the old rear put to the front. then when the time comes, i change all 4 tyres then start do tyre rotations. currently all 4 tyres are wear out evenly.

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post Jul 1 2019, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jul 1 2019, 10:17 PM)
I am just about to do the tyres rotation and the mechanic showed me the condition of the threads. He said to me, Rovelo used soft rubber, it's cheap but worn faster compare to other manufacturers. The price is rm115 and can still bargain to lower than a hundred, but decided to take the GY instead.
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tyre rotation should start from the beginning when change new same brand tyres, then continue do every 10k mileage recommendation and when the tyre condition is good.

that is the proper way to do tyre rotation and how to get properly wear out all 4 tyres.

imo, to get the best experiences on GY triplemax, you should get it on all 4 tyres. anyway, it' all on your decision.

p/s: this is based on my noob non car guy experiences anyway.

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