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dannyw
post May 19 2022, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ May 19 2022, 12:37 PM)
To be honest it really depends on the workshop previously did your car mess up on honest mistake or it's downright lack of professionalism.

If it's former it's always ok to grow together with your mechanic.

By the way there's one famous belting company called Mitsuboshi. Maybe it's that one you getting from SC?
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I used to service at Melaka, working at KL, since MCO not back so frequent. One thing about this practice is if any issue, is hard for me to go back if urgent.

Ya, used to be Mitsuboshi for original Proton belt, call just now, they say now is Proton brand. Not sure how true.
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post May 19 2022, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 19 2022, 02:47 PM)
I used to service at Melaka, working at KL, since MCO not back so frequent. One thing about this practice is if any issue, is hard for me to go back if urgent.

Ya, used to be Mitsuboshi for original Proton belt, call just now, they say now is Proton brand. Not sure how true.
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I see. If you have no idea which mechanic to go for, my best recommendation will be Zordaq, even for timing belt.

I have good experience with Zordaq JB on my IAFM and my 320,000km belt change. They really know their Campro. The reason i didn't go back for 400,000km change was because they're simply too busy for my appointment and i don't want to travel outstation without changing timing belt.

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post May 19 2022, 09:37 PM

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just got my car back from workshop, wasn'nt able to start thought the fuel pump koyak already, lucky just the relay. Burnt RM 120.
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post May 20 2022, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ May 19 2022, 06:42 PM)
I see. If you have no idea which mechanic to go for, my best recommendation will be Zordaq, even for timing belt.

I have good experience with Zordaq JB on my IAFM and my 320,000km belt change. They really know their Campro. The reason i didn't go back for 400,000km change was because they're simply too busy for my appointment and i don't want to travel outstation without changing timing belt.
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Wow, you reach 400k? Must be heavy travel person. I not even reach my 2nd timing belt mileage only 140k, due to MCO, car not move but date move, so now almost 7 years for 63k only. Plan to drag until 70k, but for safety reason will change it soon. Maybe I will choose KL SC nearby, easy for me.
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post May 28 2022, 06:50 PM

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Guys, when come to absorber is that any different for original proton and Kyb, & etc?

Change timing belt at Proton SC today, they inform my front absorber leaking. They told me proton original is the best, but then the problem is they want to change all 4 for me, even rear is no problem. They quoted me 4 absorbers, 4 Springs & those front lower arm, link and etc all in 1.8k. I was shocked!

Can i delay changing my leaking absorber? When i drive daily didn't feel any different, only have some sound over the bump and that should lower arm sound.
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post May 30 2022, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 28 2022, 06:50 PM)
Guys, when come to absorber is that any different for original proton and Kyb, & etc?

Change timing belt at Proton SC today, they inform my front absorber leaking. They told me proton original is the best, but then the problem is they want to change all 4 for me, even rear is no problem. They quoted me 4 absorbers, 4 Springs & those front lower arm, link and etc all in 1.8k. I was shocked!

Can i delay changing my leaking absorber? When i drive daily didn't feel any different, only have some sound over the bump and that should lower arm sound.
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Change all my absorbers due to leaking at EA Autoworks in 2019. They quote me 1.5k for IMP Comfort absorbers. It felt like standard and still going strong.
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post May 31 2022, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(ask_dino @ May 30 2022, 04:37 PM)
Change all my absorbers due to leaking at EA Autoworks in 2019. They quote me 1.5k for IMP Comfort absorbers. It felt like standard and still going strong.
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You change all too, can feel the different? How about those lower arm and etc.

Few years back when i change also say is leaking, but i didn't feel any different before and after. Maybe not serious yet. I notice Kayaba a bit lower compare to original.
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used to use ori abosrber and GAB lowered springs , changed back to original springs 4 years back & new ori absorbers car seems higher than other persona
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post May 31 2022, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 28 2022, 06:50 PM)
Guys, when come to absorber is that any different for original proton and Kyb, & etc?

Change timing belt at Proton SC today, they inform my front absorber leaking. They told me proton original is the best, but then the problem is they want to change all 4 for me, even rear is no problem. They quoted me 4 absorbers, 4 Springs & those front lower arm, link and etc all in 1.8k. I was shocked!

Can i delay changing my leaking absorber? When i drive daily didn't feel any different, only have some sound over the bump and that should lower arm sound.
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If you choose not to change even it's leaking, apart from bad handling, you will wear out your tyres in an uneven fashion.


QUOTE(McFcker @ May 31 2022, 04:25 PM)
used to use ori abosrber and GAB lowered springs , changed back to original springs 4 years back & new ori absorbers car seems higher than other persona
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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 31 2022, 10:53 AM)
You change all too, can feel the different? How about those lower arm and etc.

Few years back when i change also say is leaking, but i didn't feel any different before and after. Maybe not serious yet. I notice Kayaba a bit lower compare to original.
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Most of the workshop will order waja parts for persona. Yet, Persona rear absorber is a bit longer than the model for waja. If you check KYB online catalogue, you can see it's 2 different model number for waja rear and persona rear. Most people just live with whatever they got from workshop, some anal one like me will prefer the parts number for persona.

I remember i read somewhere that the hightened rear of persona is to reduce understeering of the car. Might be wrong.
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post May 31 2022, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ May 31 2022, 04:39 PM)
If you choose not to change even it's leaking, apart from bad handling, you will wear out your tyres in an uneven fashion.
Most of the workshop will order waja parts for persona. Yet, Persona rear absorber is a bit longer than the model for waja. If you check KYB online catalogue, you can see it's 2 different model number for waja rear and persona rear. Most people just live with whatever they got from workshop, some anal one like me will prefer the parts number for persona.

I remember i read somewhere that the hightened rear of persona is to reduce understeering of the car. Might be wrong.
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I will find another workshop to verify. Not sure yet, as even i drive over the bump still can hear the gas sound from absorber. Or maybe is only 1 out, need to double check. Last Sunday drop by 1 workshop, lazy to jack up the car, just ask me turn the steering, then say not visible leak, and tell me is very old already.

Now want to get original part also not easy. I call up Proton SC, some of them not keep stock, need to order.
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post Jun 1 2022, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 28 2022, 06:50 PM)
Guys, when come to absorber is that any different for original proton and Kyb, & etc?

Change timing belt at Proton SC today, they inform my front absorber leaking. They told me proton original is the best, but then the problem is they want to change all 4 for me, even rear is no problem. They quoted me 4 absorbers, 4 Springs & those front lower arm, link and etc all in 1.8k. I was shocked!

Can i delay changing my leaking absorber? When i drive daily didn't feel any different, only have some sound over the bump and that should lower arm sound.
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Which SC you went to change timing belt? How much is the total cost?
My car 6 years back change timing belt at one of the known campro specialist, after that it was noisy, sent back adjusted twice, getting worse. I think now it could be too loose because morning especially noisy klik klik klik sound (not the V belt).

Now already 6 years and 50k since last change, thought of changing again and hopefully fixed this noisy problem...
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post Jun 2 2022, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 1 2022, 09:46 PM)
Which SC you went to change timing belt? How much is the total cost?
My car 6 years back change timing belt at one of the known campro specialist, after that it was noisy, sent back adjusted twice, getting worse. I think now it could be too loose because morning especially noisy klik klik klik sound (not the V belt).

Now already 6 years and 50k since last change, thought of changing again and hopefully fixed this noisy problem...
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Is that Zorxxq? I plan to let them check my absorber.

I went to Sin Siang Hin Melawati. Total about RM700, without changing water pump & tensional bearing. Our car really a bit sensitive on timing belt installation, i got it too during my last repair oil seal on workshop outside. At first sounds like drum, I guess it too tight, after few adjust also not as good as before. doh.gif
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post Jun 2 2022, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jun 2 2022, 10:53 AM)
Is that Zorxxq? I plan to let them check my absorber.

I went to Sin Siang Hin Melawati. Total about RM700, without changing water pump & tensional bearing. Our car really a bit sensitive on timing belt installation, i got it too during my last repair oil seal on workshop outside. At first sounds like drum, I guess it too tight, after few adjust also not as good as before.  doh.gif
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At first timing belt replaced at D , adjusted once became worse then went to Z request help to adjust, better a bit but still noisy then I didn't care already.

After you change to Melawati, is it good no longer noisy?
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post Jun 2 2022, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 2 2022, 01:24 PM)
At first timing belt replaced at D , adjusted once became worse then went to Z request help to adjust, better a bit but still noisy then I didn't care already.

After you change to Melawati, is it good no longer noisy?
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That noise issue was few years ago. During that change also make my car vibrate more, end up change mounting and still not as good. After that, i purposely back to Proton SC which i regular visit at Melaka, they help me to reassemble back.

Anyway, 11 years old car + our car design, sure have some sound, not sure is IAFM old already or others? If not open bonnet, not obvious. Now the vibrate at neutral back again. Not plan to change the mounting soon, time to check those lower arm, bush & etc. All about money....

I will say this round before change and after change the sound about the same.

Some SC will change water pump & tensioner together which end up about RM1.3

Btw, my old timing belt looks very good condition, can't see any crack. 7 years for about 60K. Just dare not drag.
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post Jun 7 2022, 04:54 PM

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post Jun 8 2022, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(lkwah86 @ Jun 7 2022, 05:54 PM)
Anyone using ATLAS app? I can't login
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what is ATLAS app?
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post Jun 8 2022, 03:09 PM

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post Jun 8 2022, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(lkwah86 @ Jun 8 2022, 03:09 PM)
The system OS running in the screen, there is a 'A-Store' app needed login to install other apps

paultan => proton-atlas-os-to-receive-spotify-music-app-soon
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Bro this is Persona IAFM group. ATLAS should be running on Persona VVT, which is Iriz based.
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post Jun 10 2022, 03:59 PM

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This is leaking, not serious, right?
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post Jun 10 2022, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jun 10 2022, 03:59 PM)
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This is leaking, not serious, right?
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Once it leak, it is considered damaged and should be replaced.

If cost is concern, replace pair first. As in if this photo is rear strut, replace both rear absorber only.

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