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TSAh Han 7
post Aug 6 2018, 10:29 AM, updated 8y ago

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http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...rns-think-tank/


What's your 2 big cents?

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post Aug 6 2018, 10:36 AM

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post Aug 6 2018, 10:41 AM

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post Aug 6 2018, 10:43 AM

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in my opinion, buy a strategic location property ASAP! when the property bubble burst, discounts are going to be offered by many, so, you need to take the advantage. (Disclaimer!) - Provided you dont have any major commitments with banks and are looking to start to buy a property for yourself.
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post Aug 6 2018, 11:24 AM

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When everyone join in property game. All big, medium firm company also venture into property.

You go pasar even ah ma ah pek also talk buy property. Then the bubble already built liao.

Just see the market how long it can tahan, until it burst and collapse.

When kena... after burst, nobody even want to mention property. Ah ma ah pek scare kao liao. Invest until Coffin saving also gone liao.

And all of the sudden they found new hope in elsewhere... crpyto...curreny.. then everyone will start get crazy again.... the cycle continues.
Crpyto market still ok. Because most ah ma ah pek belum tahu. When they knew it.... time to run again.
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post Aug 6 2018, 11:41 AM

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property bubble created when the threshold for rental market surpassed the demand.

Properties are meant to be for own stay and maybe 30% for rental in a healthy economy.

In KL/Selangor sometimes u see condo where more than 60% of the units are for rental
Developers selling at future prices always contributes to the bubble.

Supply for new condo are also not controlled, in KL/Selangor, more than a 1000 units pop up every month.

when more investors are having negative cash flow in and oversupply market, the bubble are just waiting to burst
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post Aug 6 2018, 12:17 PM

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I believe the current market is slow down and most of the property price has been dropped as compared to peak 2012 - 2013. If further drop, i think the whole economy will be affected which i think highly unlikely that will happen in the near future. Unless the Government did not control properly. If they start now, the market still be able to maintain.
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post Aug 6 2018, 12:35 PM

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how many times want burst lol

if holding power strong. nothing will burst.

need see those majority flipper boi boi cant tahan or not.
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post Aug 6 2018, 12:40 PM

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LGE said with SST, prop price (i think he refer to new one) will down...
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post Aug 6 2018, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jszeon @ Aug 6 2018, 12:17 PM)
I believe the current market is slow down and most of the property price has been dropped as compared to peak 2012 - 2013. If further drop, i think the whole economy will be affected which i think highly unlikely that will happen in the near future. Unless the Government did not control properly. If they start now, the market still be able to maintain.
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Got big discussion going on, viral, that investors bought up those cheap props to rent out and end up:
- nobody buying expensive props
- those low income group not able to buy cheap props

I guess government will look how to regulate this soon. Someone posted an idea that:
1st prop - 90% loan
2nd prop - 70% loan
3rd prop - 50% loan
4th prop - cash buy

Guess if this is true, property price will fall further after this.
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post Aug 6 2018, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 6 2018, 12:50 PM)
Got big discussion going on, viral, that investors bought up those cheap props to rent out and end up:
- nobody buying expensive props
- those low income group not able to buy cheap props

I guess government will look how to regulate this soon. Someone posted an idea that:
1st prop - 90% loan
2nd prop - 70% loan
3rd prop - 50% loan
4th prop - cash buy

Guess if this is true, property price will fall further after this.
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Dun forget.. government is the biggest shareholders of the property related companied.
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post Aug 6 2018, 01:21 PM

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Oredi bursted. U still can't afford amirite...?..
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post Aug 6 2018, 01:24 PM

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as long the location is strategic, the property condition is good (for old properties), the pricing is right for your pocket.
just proceed in buying...
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post Aug 6 2018, 01:49 PM

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actually "bubble" comment can be used forever one.

ttdi dsl house used to be around 100k in 80s, so in 90s 500k that time people say bubble, in 2000s 1m say bubble, 2010s 1.5m say bubble, now almost 2020 around 2m already say bubble...
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post Aug 6 2018, 01:52 PM

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did we all knew that Cyberjaya property already burst?
Alot of people suffer from renting out their unit, despite near to MMU/Lim Kok Weng/MMC company.

Rental Market already collapse, if they interested in cyber property, they opt for Lelong 1st.
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post Aug 6 2018, 01:57 PM

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it will burst only when economy collapse
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 6 2018, 12:50 PM)
Got big discussion going on, viral, that investors bought up those cheap props to rent out and end up:
- nobody buying expensive props
- those low income group not able to buy cheap props

I guess government will look how to regulate this soon. Someone posted an idea that:
1st prop - 90% loan
2nd prop - 70% loan
3rd prop - 50% loan
4th prop - cash buy

Guess if this is true, property price will fall further after this.
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Easy talk only. But hard to implement. Double edge sword. Gov May kena back. Coz the tax and income also banyan from there. Susah when got benifit and interest on it.
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post Aug 6 2018, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 6 2018, 12:50 PM)
Got big discussion going on, viral, that investors bought up those cheap props to rent out and end up:
- nobody buying expensive props
- those low income group not able to buy cheap props

I guess government will look how to regulate this soon. Someone posted an idea that:
1st prop - 90% loan
2nd prop - 70% loan
3rd prop - 50% loan
4th prop - cash buy

Guess if this is true, property price will fall further after this.
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To prevent this kind of thing to happen, i think government can used the cap like those cheap prop only allow for certain name and not allow for group purchase or what. Instead of implement this. In fact i think the current supply is more than enough for the future peoples. By right government should limit the projects near KL city and to plan a proper town/restructure the town if they really want to expand further. I believe re-structure those old buildings is more workable. But the bubble is already there for most of the projects. Even the developer now they are not dare to launch big & luxury units. What they offer is just a small pigeon hanging on the sky and brain wash you it's low density. In fact it's high to make sounds affordable but not worth the value.
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post Aug 6 2018, 02:45 PM

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some locations gt big bubble only... not all... filter well research well u are still good to go... and even bubble reli burst... can you still able to own one property? with no financing... u have to cash buy by then... it wont burst until less than 100k level for a normal 300k-500k prop....
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Aug 6 2018, 01:57 PM)
it will burst only when economy collapse
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Property bubble burst with recession is bad enough already. Don't need for the economy to collapse. This would only spell a major disaster.
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post Aug 6 2018, 03:14 PM

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Location nice, still high demand.

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QUOTE(x132755 @ Aug 6 2018, 03:14 PM)
Location nice, still high demand.
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Very true. Regardless of bubble or not
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post Aug 6 2018, 10:08 PM

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yeah.. burst already!

2 storey CORNER house with 2.6k sqft land can get for only 235k!!

blood is knee deep!!! see below if you don't believe it

https://www.iproperty.com.my/property/rawang/sale-6598340/

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post Aug 8 2018, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(wongsinyee @ Aug 6 2018, 10:08 PM)
yeah.. burst already!

2 storey CORNER house with 2.6k sqft land can get for only 235k!!

blood is knee deep!!! see below if you don't believe it

https://www.iproperty.com.my/property/rawang/sale-6598340/
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Must be tiny house cos only 850sqfe and just got 2 rooms. Some more in ulu place like Rawang.

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post Aug 9 2018, 09:53 AM

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yeah, burst liao.
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post Aug 9 2018, 03:46 PM

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I agree with the article that we should allow the burst
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post Aug 9 2018, 06:26 PM

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Bubble gum oso burst every now n then
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post Aug 18 2018, 10:55 PM

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My friend is waiting for freehold landed in PJ to burst so that she can buy. Already sold 2 units in 2012 and still waiting for burst.

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post Aug 22 2018, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Ah Han 7 @ Aug 6 2018, 10:29 AM)
Keep calm and continue baiing
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post Aug 26 2018, 11:12 PM

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Not bursting around KL and Klang Valley area cause new launch project still >50% takeup rate within weeks.
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QUOTE(woolei @ Aug 6 2018, 01:52 PM)
did we all knew that Cyberjaya property already burst?
Alot of people suffer from renting out their unit, despite near to MMU/Lim Kok Weng/MMC company.

Rental Market already collapse, if they interested in cyber property, they opt for Lelong 1st.
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But where are the students renting other than their own university hostels in Cyberjaya ?
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post Aug 30 2018, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(sharknado @ Aug 30 2018, 02:11 PM)
But where are the students renting other than their own university hostels in Cyberjaya ?
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they still renting around that area, but the supply is higher than demand, the rental yield is super low.

currently cyberjaya have MMU, LKW and Medical College only
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QUOTE(woolei @ Aug 30 2018, 03:42 PM)
they still renting around that area, but the supply is higher than demand, the rental yield is super low.

currently cyberjaya have MMU, LKW and Medical College only
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Wow really ? I guess there isn't a lot of tech companies there also, especially for working adults who can afford higher rental.
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QUOTE(sharknado @ Aug 31 2018, 01:16 PM)
Wow really ? I guess there isn't a lot of tech companies there also, especially for working adults who can afford higher rental.
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i work at one of the tech companies too.
my colleague from India mostly stay bukit jalil area if they got car (most of them grab a 2nd hand though)
some haven't brough car will stay either shaburry/domains

don't mention almost all local have their own house, so wont stay at cyber.


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post Aug 31 2018, 10:06 PM

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Instead of control regulate on loan, government should control the supply.

The main issue here is supply > demand.
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post Sep 1 2018, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(woolei @ Aug 31 2018, 10:01 PM)
i work at one of the tech companies too.
my colleague from India mostly stay bukit jalil area if they got car (most of them grab a 2nd hand though)
some haven't brough car will stay either shaburry/domains

don't mention almost all local have their own house, so wont stay at cyber.
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But if your colleagues work at cyber why not stay in cyber ? Bukit jalil more convenient and lively ?
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QUOTE(brianccg @ Aug 31 2018, 10:06 PM)
Instead of control regulate on loan, government should control the supply.

The main issue here is supply > demand.
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Yea true, too many developers around Kl and Selangor. I think the loan needs regulated also.
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QUOTE(sharknado @ Sep 1 2018, 01:37 AM)
But if your colleagues work at cyber why not stay in cyber ? Bukit jalil more convenient and lively ?
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bukit jalil too pricely , 1.5k at cyber can opt for studio, but at jalil can get a 3 room condo.

Example:
Endah Villa is one of their favorate, alot of ppl from india staying there.
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If you buy the right property, you don't have to be worry.

If you buy shitty property, property market boom also you go bust. Consider at least these points when you buy:

1. Entry price
2. Location
3. Supply
4. Rental
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 6 2018, 12:50 PM)
Got big discussion going on, viral, that investors bought up those cheap props to rent out and end up:
- nobody buying expensive props
- those low income group not able to buy cheap props

I guess government will look how to regulate this soon. Someone posted an idea that:
1st prop - 90% loan
2nd prop - 70% loan
3rd prop - 50% loan
4th prop - cash buy

Guess if this is true, property price will fall further after this.
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May I know where do you see this information or idea?

Just curious, if its shown in the press media, then i guess the government might be really looking to impose this new regulation.


 

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