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post May 15 2019, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2019, 01:34 PM)
hey peeps, what is the conclusion?
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Read the title:
Atheists Agnostics Assemble

There is no evidence of a god. That is the conclusion. Always have been. Not sure if always will be.
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post May 15 2019, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2019, 01:34 PM)
hey peeps, what is the conclusion?
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conclusion ..... the god must be crazy icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ramz @ May 15 2019, 01:41 PM)
Read the title:
Atheists Agnostics Assemble

There is no evidence of a god. That is the conclusion. Always have been. Not sure if always will be.
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post May 15 2019, 01:45 PM

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post May 15 2019, 01:54 PM

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Many conclusions here :-

God is Logically Impossible
The Argument for Atheism from Incoherence
http://www.humanreligions.info/god_is_impossible.html

Is Free Will the Reason God Allows Evil and Suffering?
http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/theodicy_freewill.html

A Fundamental Contradiction Between a Good God and Reality
http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/theodicy.html

God and Goodness
Can a Perfectly Good God Exist? Is God Love?
http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/benevolence.html






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post May 15 2019, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(will4848 @ May 15 2019, 01:00 PM)
i dont understand what u want but why i must imagine thing that u tell me ??  nod.gif
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Why are you tap dancing again? You can or cannot imagine a being with superpowers because this answer is central to your argument?
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post May 15 2019, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(will4848 @ May 15 2019, 12:00 PM)
exist mean exist, dont exist mean dont exist .... what is cannot exist ?
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Cannot exist means don't exist lah! Hello!???! As suspected, all your arguments are because your comprehension is weak and you won't acknowledge that by reading then understanding it.
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ May 15 2019, 02:02 PM)
Cannot exist means don't exist lah! Hello!???! As suspected, all your arguments are because your comprehension is weak and you won't acknowledge that by reading then understanding it.
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will4848 is another crackpot, claims to be a Buddhist but lie thru his teeth.
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2019, 01:34 PM)
hey peeps, what is the conclusion?
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There is never one that all can agree to, but it's the journey that counts.
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post May 15 2019, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ May 15 2019, 02:05 PM)
will4848 is another crackpot, claims to be a Buddhist but lie thru his teeth.
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aww, you are so mean.

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post May 15 2019, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2019, 02:13 PM)
aww, you are so mean.
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Am I, okay I take it back, he is not a crackpot but lie thru his teeth ... Better? smile.gif

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ May 15 2019, 02:20 PM)
Am I, okay I take it back, he is not a crackpot but lie thru his teeth ... Better? smile.gif
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So you believe there is only natural physical law?

No natural law for the mind?
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post May 15 2019, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2019, 02:25 PM)
So you believe there is only natural physical law?

No natural law for the mind?
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You need to define first what is natural law for the mind?
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ May 15 2019, 02:27 PM)
You need to define first what is natural law for the mind?
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Do you believe mind exist?

or they are just construct from random chemical processes that trigger the thought?
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2019, 02:30 PM)
Do you believe mind exist?

or they are just construct from random chemical processes that trigger the thought?
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Mind exists because of the biology of the brain.

The chemical processes are largely not random. If we really go down to atomic/quantum level, then only we can see the randomness. So 'randomness' is dependent on the level one examines something.


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post May 15 2019, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2019, 02:30 PM)
Do you believe mind exist?

or they are just construct from random chemical processes that trigger the thought?
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Mind exist. It's in your functioning brain. I can prove to you. Remove the brain. No mind.

Why is it relevant if it is random? . But I would say if we have the tools to measure, nothing is random. But I may be wrong. It's not a claim.
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post May 15 2019, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(ramz @ May 15 2019, 02:51 PM)
Mind exist. It's in your functioning brain. I can prove to you. Remove the brain. No mind.

Why is it relevant if it is random? . But I would say if we have the tools to measure, nothing is random. But I may be wrong. It's not a claim.
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because if it's random, you don't have any control over it. Although, there are individuals that let their mind run around with little control over it.

you can choose to do certain things, for instance, writing in this forum. That itself, is not a random act. There is a will exerted over the action. A forerunner, a preeminent that triggers everything else to happen.

you can look at the brain as the hardware. There is a software behind it. A lot of words for that, soul, mind, spirit, consciousness, self, etc.

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post May 15 2019, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2019, 02:55 PM)
because if it's random, you don't have any control over it. Although, there are individuals that let their mind run around with little control over it.

you can choose to do certain things, for instance, writing in this forum. That itself, is not a random act. There is a will exerted over the action. A forerunner, a preeminent that triggers everything else to happen.

you can look at the brain as the hardware. There is a software behind it. A lot of words for that, soul, mind, spirit, etc.
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I'm not associating randomness over control. And I won't. Coz I don't know if there is a relation. But I do "believe" randomness is just an illusion coz you can't see the details. With all the details in your face, you probably won't call it random.

Can we get to your claim and work from there. We are not making conversation. We proving a point. What is your claim, then your evidence to that claim. Is that simple.
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post May 15 2019, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(ramz @ May 15 2019, 03:03 PM)
I'm not associating randomness over control. And I won't. Coz I don't know if there is a relation. But I do "believe" randomness is just an illusion coz you can't see the details. With all the details in your face, you probably won't call it random.

Can we get to your claim and work from there. We are not making conversation. We proving a point. What is your claim, then your evidence to that claim. Is that simple.
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ok noted. Have a nice day
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post May 15 2019, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ May 15 2019, 03:05 PM)
ok noted. Have a nice day
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