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steven789
post Jun 16 2020, 09:05 AM

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Just got my Crucial Ballistix 2x16GB 3200MHz CL16-18-18-36 (BL2K16G32C16U4B) for RM860 (great price?). Bought them from Amazon US. Love these micron E dies.

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Max frequency i can achieve is 4200MHz @1.38V. Have yet try higher voltage. blush.gif

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This is the timing i get for 3800MHz 1:1 fclk based on DRAM calculator. DRAM Voltage also at 1.38V, SOC voltage at 1.09V.

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Benchmark results with above settings and CPU at stock clock.



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post Jun 17 2020, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(crazyfatt @ Jun 17 2020, 12:08 AM)
any sifu overclock 4x8gb ? i tried the calculator safe setting but fail boot .... am i set the calculator wrong ?
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Can give us more info like which motherboard, which RAM model, the timing and frequency you attempted?
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post Jun 18 2020, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(crazyfatt @ Jun 18 2020, 12:04 AM)
yes i did and import to calculate. I just tried with DOCP and i go change the CL, trcd, trp, tras. it’s able to boot up now...seems some numbers is wrong in calculator

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That looks like a good b-die so congrats.
But probably tRC can still tightens up a bit to 58 or 60.

Anyway, the import function in DRAM calculator may not function correctly so I usually only specify the die, rank, chipset and the speed I want to run. Then press calculate fast and safe to compare the difference. Overclocking RAM needs a lot of patience and the DRAM calculator results are just a reference.

Also, make sure you use the latest version of DRAM calculator.
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post Jun 18 2020, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(crazyfatt @ Jun 18 2020, 11:29 AM)
i tighten up the trc to 28 and able to boot. Is it no harm using the overclock profile and change timing ?
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It's totally safe unless you put too much voltage. Personally I don't like to go beyond 1.4V although up to 1.45V should be fine for b-die. But do check stability of your overclock with good ram test software.
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post Jun 18 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 18 2020, 01:52 AM)

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You're running all core overclock at 1.42V? Many people in other forum say anything more than 1.35V will cause CPU degradation. Some even say 1.30V sweat.gif . So far I only dare to push my 3700x up to 1.31V only.

But your RAM are crazy fast with super low latency thumbsup.gif . B-dies are still king!
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post Jun 18 2020, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jun 18 2020, 02:50 PM)
to me manual oc is dead (for 24/7) setup. get d vrm & cpu cooled as much as u can, then let d pbo does its job.  smile.gif

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I find even PBO is very inefficient. Setting it on will increase power consumption from 65w to over 95w with very little gain in performance. So i'm still running at stock without PBO tongue.gif

QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 18 2020, 05:05 PM)
Only binned Samsung B-die is good. I have been bitten by junk B-die so many times.

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That's why I didn't want to gamble with Samsung B-die and rather went for cheaper Micron Rev.E.
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post Jun 20 2020, 06:36 PM

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Share my 3700x OC and benchmark results here for reference:

Purchased in May 2020. Sorry as I forgot to snap a photo of the manufacturing date which can be identified on the CPU heat spreader. More recent CPUs perform better in overclocking.

Test setup:
- Motherboard: Asus x570 ROG Strix-E Gaming
- RAM: Crucial Ballistix 32GB (2x16 dual rank) at 3733MHz 16-19-16-36-58-1T
- CPU cooler: Xigmatek Red Scorpion (10 year old cooler blush.gif )
- Power supply: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 650W
- Room temperature: 26.2°C

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This is stock (auto) settings but CPU voltage offset at -0.0825v. Without this negative offset cinebench score usually about 4770 only.
- CPU package power: 90.183w
- CPU core power: 64.645w
- CPU (Tctl/Tdie): 63.3°C max
- Motherboard temp: 32°C
- Max boost clock (all core): 4025MHz
- Max boost clock (single core): 4400MHz


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This is PBO + autoOC. CPU voltage also offset -0.0825v. Any further reduction in voltage will degrade performance
Max all core boost: 4,175MHz
Avg all core boost: 4,125MHz
CPU package power: 120.160w
CPU core power: 93.762w
CPU (Tctl/Tdie): 71.8°C max
Motherboard temp: 32°C


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4.2GHz all core overclock.
CPU voltage: 1.200V (1.16V at load)
CPU package power: 91.926w
CPU core power: 65.979w
CPU (Tctl/Tdie): 64.0°C max
Motherboard temp: 32°C
OCCT tested stable (30min)
This will be the most efficient clock setting because power consumption remained at 65w (core) similar like stock settings. However, single core performance will drop so I didn't even bother testing.


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4.4 GHz all core OC. OCCT tested stable for 30min.
CPU voltage: 1.31v (1.30v at load)
Additional VRM settings: LLC level 4, Current capability 140%, Switching frequency 500Hz, Power phase control Extreme.
CPU cooler fan speed: 1680rpm
CPU package power: 121.712w
CPU core power: 94.889w
CPU (Tctl/Tdie): 74.9°C max
Motherboard temp: 30°C (casing fans running at higher speed)
As you can see, this setting has very similar power consumption figures as PBO. Therefore PBO is quite inefficient.


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Stability testing with OCCT. I find OCCT is very sensitive in detecting instabilty. 30min of testing is equivalent to hours and hours of Prime95.
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post Jun 21 2020, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(red-queen @ Jun 21 2020, 03:18 PM)
Looks like he won the silicon lottery. Must be a 3700xt hehhehe
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When I see other forum, all recent Ryzen 3000 series behave better. Some can even do it at lower voltage than mine.

QUOTE(crazyfatt @ Jun 21 2020, 03:53 PM)
Would like to ask is the RTT_WR OFF recommend in the calculator must be folo ? I got no error from memtestpro after 1 night run with the RTT_WR AUTO. I'm curious why this off will make me can't boot into windows or error when i restart windows. Hope all sifu can help explain for me notworthy.gif
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I don't follow the calculator exactly. I have no idea what RTT_WR do but I'm sure DRAM calculator is not a Bible. You will notice each version of the calculator has different settings.
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post Jun 21 2020, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(crazyfatt @ Jun 21 2020, 07:46 PM)
Dram voltage 1.45
soc 1.14
others all auto
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I think you can reduce your soc voltage to just 1.10v. This can cool down CPU a bit. SOC voltage only important for fclk stability.
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post Jun 22 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(crazyfatt @ Jun 21 2020, 11:22 PM)
i back to 3600mhz 14-15-14-28. 3800 i tried testmem5 v0.12 got many error 😔 i dun know wat error is that. so far 3600 0 error
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If I were you, I would aim for 3733MHz or 3800MHz. Ryzen CPU loves high fabric clock.
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post Jun 23 2020, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(red-queen @ Jun 23 2020, 08:57 PM)
sorry, but what does scale negatively on higher voltages mean? higher volts get lower frequency, but lower volts get higher frequency?
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Yes, it means you might get worse timing or frequency if too much voltage.

 

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