ye keep cezanne in focus then, some chips already selling on eBay... not many experiences just yet though.

In your experience, do they OC as well as 3000 series?

I'm thinking to get 4750G for 8c/16t + Vega 11.

Turns out that my "2nd best" SR B-die is able to offer higher RAM clock

DDR4-4800 18-22-22-42-1T @ 1.50v


Again, the subs are all auto and needed to be tuned for efficiency.

Do you find IFB 1:1 or off 1:1 better?

In terms of 1080p gaming, so far based on my testing DDR4-4800 and 5000 unsynced and untuned (IF 1:2) gave slightly higher min FPS but slightly lower average FPS compared to 3800 synced (IF 1:1). Slightly = 1-2 FPS.

But I've yet to test the performance differences between 3800 synced vs unsynced with the same B-die DR kit. Give me one night for benching and I will update here.

This post has been edited by owikh84: Mar 31 2021, 09:03 AM

The good ones OC as good as the XT Matisse chips.
The average ones slightly better then the early launch Matisse chips.

With Cezanne around the corner I'd probably see if waiting is worthwhile or not.

Or have a look how RocketLake with their new UHD 750 IGPU (i5-11500 and above) is doing.
Matter of fact I received a i5-11500 today and will start testing it late this or next week when I have the time doing so.

This post has been edited by nrw: Mar 30 2021, 02:15 PM

Just got the 11700K a few days ago, I'm surprised it's not the Xe so I'm not putting hopes into it.

The Intel Iris Xe is good.

Just done testing DDR4-3800 + IF 1900 (1:1) vs DDR4-3800 + IF 1800 (1:2):

1) 1080p gaming not much different, 1:2 generally gave lower min FPS, average FPS almost equal
2) AIDA64 bandwidths reduced by -0.14% R/-2.90% W/-0.91%C with 1:2, latency increased by 17.29%.
3) Cinebench R20 slightly lower by 0.04%

Battlefield V: 1920x1080, Ultra, DX12

RAM, IF	Min FPS	Avg FPS
DDR4-3800, IF 1900 (1:1)	184	197
DDR4-3800, IF 1800 (1:2)	182	196

Metro Exodus: 1920x1080, Extreme, DX12

RAM, IF	Min FPS	Avg FPS
DDR4-3800, IF 1900 (1:1)	9	73
DDR4-3800, IF 1800 (1:2)	10	73

Horizon Zero Dawn: 1920x1080, Ultimate, DX11

RAM, IF	Min FPS	Avg FPS
DDR4-3800, IF 1900 (1:1)	64	154
DDR4-3800, IF 1800 (1:2)	60	154

Shadow of the Tomb Raider: 1920x1080, Ultra, SMAAx4, DX12

RAM, IF	Min FPS	Avg FPS
DDR4-3800, IF 1900 (1:1)	123	165
DDR4-3800, IF 1800 (1:2)	122	165

Grand Theft Auto V: 1920x1080, Very High, MSAAx4, DX11

RAM, IF	Min FPS	Avg FPS
DDR4-3800, IF 1900 (1:1)	4	179
DDR4-3800, IF 1800 (1:2)	3	178

Watch Dogs: Legion: 1920x1080, Ultra, DX12

RAM, IF	Min FPS	Avg FPS
DDR4-3800, IF 1900 (1:1)	73	110
DDR4-3800, IF 1800 (1:2)	68	109

AIDA64 Extreme 4 v6.32.5600

RAM, IF	Read (MB/s)	Write (MB/s)	Copy (MB/s)	Latency (ns)
DDR4-3800, IF 1900 (1:1)	59183	58904	56544	53.2
DDR4-3800, IF 1800 (1:2)	59103	57196	56032	62.4

Cinebench R20

RAM, IF	MC (cb)
DDR4-3800, IF 1900 (1:1)	9182
DDR4-3800, IF 1800 (1:2)	9178

My setup:
5900X 4.6GHz all-core
ROG Strix B550-I BIOS 2007
TUF RTX3080 (OC +150/1100) vBIOS V2
2x16GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4000C17 OC @ 3800C14 | IF 1900 vs 1800
AX1200i

This post has been edited by owikh84: Mar 31 2021, 09:09 AM

UHD Graphics 750 is Iris Xe

OK thanks. Wonder why they didn't use that name in spec sheet.

Micron-E is

5100 CL20-26-26-46-1T @ 1.60v


Crucial Ballistix Elite 4000C18 2x8GB kit

Some synthetic benchmarks before I move to 11900K

Cinebench R20

CPU	MC (cb)	SC (cb)
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	6636	533
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	6647	546
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	9182	596
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	9283	616
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	8619	624
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	9076	639

Cinebench R23

CPU	MC (pts)	SC (pts)
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	17161	1372
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	17119	1405
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	23605	1529
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	23971	1580
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	22210	1603
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	23215	1642

Blender v2.92 - BMW27

CPU	Result (s)
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	129
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	130
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	107
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	105
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	114
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	107

x264 FHD Benchmark v1.01

CPU	Encode Rate (FPS)
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	75.70
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	75.38
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	88.99
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	89.83
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	84.43
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	86.85

x265 HD Benchmark v0.1.4

CPU	Encode Rate (FPS)
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	48.86
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	47.47
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	59.66
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	62.12
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	58.17
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	60.11

PugetBench for Photoshop 2021

CPU	Overall Score
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	1186
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	1196
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	1325
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	1338
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	1316
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	1338

PugetBench for Premiere Pro 2021

CPU	Overall Score
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	718
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	714
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	798
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	795
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	785
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	789

Geekbench 4 Pro

CPU	MC	SC
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	44458	6770
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	44772	6923
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	56489	7171
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	57714	7351
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	55022	7419
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	56390	7515

WinRAR v6.00

CPU	MC (KB/s)	SC (KB/s)
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	40281	3261
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	40669	3315
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	50577	3974
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	50224	4061
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	48411	4106
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	50228	4128

POV-Ray v3.7

CPU	MC (PPS)	SC (PPS)
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	5770.41	537.49
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	5775.88	558.96
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	8004.40	582.01
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	8084.63	605.83
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	7567.01	611.20
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	7942.55	623.97

SiSoft Sandra 2021

CPU	Proc Arithmetric (GOPs)	Cryptography (GB/s)	Memory BW (GB/s)	Memory Latency (ns)
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	403.00	20.42	45.15	20.5
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	400.17	19.73	45.11	20.4
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	446.82	31.30	49.67	57.0
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	453.00	31.47	49.67	56.8
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	421.73	30.53	49.83	58.8
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	439.63	31.00	49.69	58.4

3DMark - Time Spy

CPU	CPU Score
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	15604
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	15789
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	16148
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	16373
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	15410
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	16094

3DMark - Fire Strike

CPU	Physics Score
10900K @ 5.1 GHz All-Core	30638
10900K @ 5.3 GHz TVB	31347
5900X @ 4.6 GHz All-Core	37697
5900X @ 4.775/4.55 GHz CCX	38224
5900X @ PBO +200 MHz	35630
5900X @ CO -30/25 +200 MHz	36484

My setups:
5900X | 10900K, both cooled by EK-Supremacy EVO RGB
ROG Strix B550-I, BIOS 2007 | Maximus XII FORMULA, BIOS 2005
2x16GB TridentZ Royal 4000C17 B-die @ 3800 14-15-15-28, cooled by 2x 60mm fans
TUF 3080 BIOS V2, OC +150/1100 | driver 461.81
AX1200i
Dimastech EasyDual V2.5

This post has been edited by owikh84: Apr 10 2021, 04:50 PM

Hynix-DJR DR from KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600C18 2x16GB kit



DDR4-4400 CL18-23-23-43-1T @ 1.50v


Update 10/4/21:

DDR4-3800 CL16-21-20-32-1T @ 1.40v | IF 1900 (1:1)


This post has been edited by owikh84: Apr 10 2021, 10:13 AM

What RAM dies does the Klevv Bolt X (not XR) 3200/3600 use? Don't want to end up with AFR/MFR kits if I can, looking for a cheapo option to max out overclocking on Ryzen now that Micron revE dual rank isn't cheap to buy from Amazon anymore.

Generally for KLEVV Bolt/CRAS,
Lower than DDR4-3200 is AFR/MFR
3200-3466 is CJR
3600-4000 is DJR

Sources:
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threa...0jJUJeKDeRs7XiM
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/...memory.6029729/
https://www.win-raid.com/t8138f51-Review-Kl...KD-AGU-A-U.html

This post has been edited by owikh84: Apr 6 2021, 12:19 PM

Thanks for the links. HWZ seems to imply some 3200 kits can also be AFR/MFR which is what I want to avoid - guess I'll have to target the 3600 kits then.

Got a better DJR DR kit from nrw, it the form of Kingston HyperX Fury RGB DDR4-3600C17 2x16GB


DDR4-4600 CL20-28-28-48-1T @ 1.50v

i validated those kits 4600C19@1.5v bro.. 4800C19@1.6v

Yeah that was on Intel. Unfortunately DJR behaves differently on AMD platform.
On the contrary, Micron B/E dies love AMD.

@safedisk said micron strong on intel also

cl amd prefers even timings is it? always see ppl doing c14,16,18 rare c15,17,19??