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Not A GTR fanboy
post Jul 31 2018, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Jul 31 2018, 08:13 PM)
Thanks all for the comments and suggestions.. I'm looking a SUV for family oriented and not necessary must get it this year, could be 2019 as well.

Audi Q3, the cheapest variant all out of stock i think and is really small size, maybe cx3 or hrv type.. The new model Q3 should be way above my budget...

Hearsay Tucson will have facelift by Nov 2018, but it seems like not many have experience on it? Kinda not popular against others... Honda, except the honda sensing and space, i dont really like its exterior design, but maintenance could be cheaper...

For tiguan, would dsg burn more fuel despite just 1.4 if compared cx5 2.0??? if take diesel cx5, anythg to take note if compared to petrol??? Tiguan vot nice cockpit and pricier among all, not sure if its 1.4 engine power enuf..

Estima too pricey and dont want used car to avoid issues...

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Test drive both cx-5 and tiguan, I ended up choosing cx-5
FC about the same for the tiguan and cx-5 2.0 (tiguan may consume more if u only use around town area due to turbocharged engine)
For the diesel cx-5, maintenance cost is higher than the petrol plus not all places hv euro 5 diesel and also if RV is important to u wouldn't recommend u to take the diesel variant..
Tiguan 1.4tsi engine is NOT UNDERPOWERED and in fact i found it more powerful than the one in cr-v (at town speed)

Both are great car (at this price range), just depends on wat u need and u wouldn't regret ur decision...
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post Jul 31 2018, 09:16 PM

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If you have the patience and the money then I suggest you wait for the new Q3 - just check the vids on that SUV, looks dope

else, just go for the CX-5, which should be the preferred choice
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post Jul 31 2018, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(Not A GTR fanboy @ Jul 31 2018, 09:08 PM)
Test drive both cx-5 and tiguan, I ended up choosing cx-5
FC about the same for the tiguan and cx-5 2.0 (tiguan may consume more if u only use around town area due to turbocharged engine)
For the diesel cx-5, maintenance cost is higher than the petrol plus not all places hv euro 5 diesel and also if RV is important to u wouldn't recommend u to take the diesel variant..
Tiguan 1.4tsi engine is NOT UNDERPOWERED and in fact i found it more powerful than the one in cr-v (at town speed)

Both are great car (at this price range), just depends on wat u need and u wouldn't regret ur decision...
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mind sharing ur reasons of choosing cx5 over tiguan are? I heard tiguan got bigger space than crv, but it look smaller from outside... Hrv got better safety feature..
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post Jul 31 2018, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Jul 31 2018, 08:13 PM)
Thanks all for the comments and suggestions.. I'm looking a SUV for family oriented and not necessary must get it this year, could be 2019 as well.

Audi Q3, the cheapest variant all out of stock i think and is really small size, maybe cx3 or hrv type.. The new model Q3 should be way above my budget...

Hearsay Tucson will have facelift by Nov 2018, but it seems like not many have experience on it? Kinda not popular against others... Honda, except the honda sensing and space, i dont really like its exterior design, but maintenance could be cheaper...

For tiguan, would dsg burn more fuel despite just 1.4 if compared cx5 2.0??? if take diesel cx5, anythg to take note if compared to petrol??? Tiguan vot nice cockpit and pricier among all, not sure if its 1.4 engine power enuf..

Estima too pricey and dont want used car to avoid issues...
Thats pricey!!
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As a pioneer batch Tiguan 1.4HL owner, after 1 year, my pick will still be the same if given 2nd chance. The handling & dynamic of MQB platform is among the best and FC is way better than my CVT slyphy and on par with my ex god car Vios.

Consider the 2.5 roadtax RM870 x 5 yrs wud be RM4350. Yet 1.4 Tiguan only cost me RM350 for 5yrs. So I have already safe 4K after 5 yrs which is still much more than the service fee of 3.2k.

Comparing to my brother’s 2.0gls, My Tiguan pick up is way better. Comparing to 2.5 not sure. If u gonna buy for ur wife then CRV or CX5, if u gonna use it most of the time, u will definitely looking forward to ur awesome drive day in day out with Tiguan. Interior design is boring but good enuf and will do well with age. Space is no doubt more than adequate in one of the shortest among all.

Exterior design definitely lose out yo crv and cx5 but who care, it’s stil a conti I m driving....I would nv go back to sushi or kimchi car unless it’s for my wife or for RV sake.

But Rember it’s stil VW, I still heard of a few unfortunate new owners end up in SC. sweat.gif
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post Jul 31 2018, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Jul 31 2018, 09:21 PM)
mind sharing ur reasons of choosing cx5 over tiguan are? I heard tiguan got bigger space than crv, but it look smaller from outside... Hrv got better safety feature..
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Crv is the largest in its class, tiguan is a little smaller than crv but way larger than the cx5.
Safety features tiguan may lose out on both of the japanese car maker but u get better overall ride quality (You gain some, you lose some)
The tiguan may handle better thn the cx-5 but long term reliability and high maintenance cost are the deal breaker...
Space isn't a big issue for me plus im more on the ride experience thn practicality side so ended up choosing the cx-5 as it fulfill my needs the most...

Hope it does help u choose ur nxt car thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 31 2018, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(taphie78 @ Jul 31 2018, 10:06 PM)
As a pioneer batch Tiguan 1.4HL owner, after 1 year, my pick will still be the same if given 2nd chance. The handling & dynamic of MQB platform is among the best and FC is way better than my CVT slyphy and on par with my ex god car Vios. 

Consider the 2.5 roadtax RM870 x 5 yrs wud be RM4350. Yet 1.4 Tiguan only cost me RM350 for 5yrs. So I have already safe 4K after 5 yrs which is still much more than the service fee of 3.2k.

Comparing to my brother’s 2.0gls, My Tiguan pick up is way better. Comparing to 2.5 not sure. If u gonna buy for ur wife then CRV or CX5, if u gonna use it most of the time, u will definitely looking forward to ur awesome drive day in day out with Tiguan. Interior design is boring but good enuf and will do well with age. Space is no doubt more than adequate in one of the shortest among all.

Exterior design definitely lose out yo crv and cx5 but who care, it’s stil a conti I m driving....I would nv go back to sushi or kimchi car unless it’s for my wife or for RV sake.

But Rember it’s stil VW, I still heard of a few unfortunate new owners end up in SC.  sweat.gif
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Wow, nvr heard of the new tiguan hv problems until u posted... doh.gif
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post Aug 1 2018, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(taphie78 @ Jul 31 2018, 10:06 PM)
As a pioneer batch Tiguan 1.4HL owner, after 1 year, my pick will still be the same if given 2nd chance. The handling & dynamic of MQB platform is among the best and FC is way better than my CVT slyphy and on par with my ex god car Vios. 

Consider the 2.5 roadtax RM870 x 5 yrs wud be RM4350. Yet 1.4 Tiguan only cost me RM350 for 5yrs. So I have already safe 4K after 5 yrs which is still much more than the service fee of 3.2k.

Comparing to my brother’s 2.0gls, My Tiguan pick up is way better. Comparing to 2.5 not sure. If u gonna buy for ur wife then CRV or CX5, if u gonna use it most of the time, u will definitely looking forward to ur awesome drive day in day out with Tiguan. Interior design is boring but good enuf and will do well with age. Space is no doubt more than adequate in one of the shortest among all.

Exterior design definitely lose out yo crv and cx5 but who care, it’s stil a conti I m driving....I would nv go back to sushi or kimchi car unless it’s for my wife or for RV sake.

But Rember it’s stil VW, I still heard of a few unfortunate new owners end up in SC.  sweat.gif
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Ooh really? what the issue with Tiguan? I heard Tiguan not so suitable in jam area because of it gearbox...

QUOTE(Not A GTR fanboy @ Jul 31 2018, 10:31 PM)
Wow, nvr heard of the new tiguan hv problems until u posted...  doh.gif
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Nice bro, u made uself a good choice.. tiguan or cx5, should be ok.. but tiguan maintenance should be higher, year 4 and 8...
I'm wondering diesel cx5 too, scare other issues pulak against petrol...
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post Aug 1 2018, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Aug 1 2018, 12:30 AM)
Ooh really? what the issue with Tiguan? I heard Tiguan not so suitable in jam area because of it gearbox...
Nice bro, u made uself a good choice.. tiguan or cx5, should be ok.. but tiguan maintenance should be higher, year 4 and 8...
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There is no such issue of gearbox in when caught in jam. Tiguan uses the 6 speed DSG wet clutch which doesnt has the overheating issue faced in those using the dry clutch.
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post Aug 1 2018, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Jul 31 2018, 09:13 PM)
Thanks all for the comments and suggestions.. I'm looking a SUV for family oriented and not necessary must get it this year, could be 2019 as well.

Audi Q3, the cheapest variant all out of stock i think and is really small size, maybe cx3 or hrv type.. The new model Q3 should be way above my budget...

Hearsay Tucson will have facelift by Nov 2018, but it seems like not many have experience on it? Kinda not popular against others... Honda, except the honda sensing and space, i dont really like its exterior design, but maintenance could be cheaper...

For tiguan, would dsg burn more fuel despite just 1.4 if compared cx5 2.0??? if take diesel cx5, anythg to take note if compared to petrol??? Tiguan vot nice cockpit and pricier among all, not sure if its 1.4 engine power enuf..

Estima too pricey and dont want used car to avoid issues...
Thats pricey!!
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The old model Tucson 2.0 my friend bought 1yr + surrender coz on & off visit service center. changed to Toyota Prado. And Tiguan 1.4cc quite impress on fuel save. Full tank can hit 600-700km town use. SA claimed highway can reach 800-900km ? i couldn't confirm coz not traveling yet. and the power sure pass my CX5 2.0 coz turbo i guess. is like diving 2.4cc car. new Tiguan DSG changed to Wet Clutch more reliable than previous model which many ppl complaint problem. And Estima i bought both also recond car ACR30 & ACR50 which im using daily. and i can assure u that less maintenance than other car, maybe im lucky lol.
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post Aug 1 2018, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Aug 1 2018, 01:30 AM)
Ooh really? what the issue with Tiguan? I heard Tiguan not so suitable in jam area because of it gearbox...
Nice bro, u made uself a good choice.. tiguan or cx5, should be ok.. but tiguan maintenance should be higher, year 4 and 8...
I'm wondering diesel cx5 too, scare other issues pulak against petrol...
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for ur info, mazda maintenances part not cheap also, Honda & Toyota more cheaper. my friend opening spare parts business explain to me said, Mazda parts still direct import form Japan. not like other got local dealer supply here. Mazda given 5 yrs free warranty after that god bless us. And diesel car my friend drive land cruiser. He did some modification on his car engine filter & his car can use both Euro5 & normal diesel, so far 6yrs no problem to him. And cost few hundred only.
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post Aug 1 2018, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Double K @ Aug 1 2018, 01:03 PM)
for ur info, mazda maintenances part not cheap also, Honda & Toyota more cheaper. my friend opening spare parts business explain to me said....
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What your friend didn't fully clarify is because all those so called "cheap" toyota/honda parts are replica thailand/taiwan/china parts. QC is questionable and luck based. If original, the pricing are comparable; just that toyota/honda parts slightly cheaper due to bulk demand.

I once had the same side wheel bearing changed 3 times within 5 years, while the original factory unit lasted 7 years. In the end, the cost of 3 "cheap" parts still ended up more expensive then getting the original parts from the beginning.
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post Aug 1 2018, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Double K @ Aug 1 2018, 12:35 PM)
The old model Tucson 2.0 my friend bought 1yr + surrender coz on & off visit service center. changed to Toyota Prado. And Tiguan 1.4cc quite impress on fuel save. Full tank can hit 600-700km town use. SA claimed highway can reach 800-900km ? i couldn't confirm coz not traveling yet. and the power sure pass my CX5 2.0 coz turbo i guess. is like diving 2.4cc car. new Tiguan DSG changed to Wet Clutch more reliable than previous model which many ppl complaint problem. And Estima i bought both also recond car ACR30 & ACR50 which im using daily. and i can assure u that less maintenance than other car, maybe im lucky lol.
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QUOTE(Double K @ Aug 1 2018, 01:03 PM)
for ur info, mazda maintenances part not cheap also, Honda & Toyota more cheaper. my friend opening spare parts business explain to me said, Mazda parts still direct import form Japan. not like other got local dealer supply here. Mazda given 5 yrs free warranty after that god bless us. And diesel car my friend drive land cruiser. He did some modification on his car engine filter & his car can use both Euro5 & normal diesel, so far 6yrs no problem to him. And cost few hundred only.
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its 1.4 turbo is like hyundai 2.0 only... way lower than hyundai 1.6... sad to hear many bad news on hyundai...
but vw maintenance fee not cheap, looking at year 4 and 8 maintenance nearly triple than others i think.. since i stay in jam area, i thought its turbo will cause more fuel burning...
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 1 2018, 02:40 PM)
What your friend didn't fully clarify is because all those so called "cheap" toyota/honda parts are replica thailand/taiwan/china parts. QC is questionable and luck based. If original, the pricing are comparable; just that toyota/honda parts slightly cheaper due to bulk demand.

I once had the same side wheel bearing changed 3 times within 5 years, while the original factory unit lasted 7 years. In the end, the cost of 3 "cheap" parts still ended up more expensive then getting the original parts from the beginning.
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Yeah true & agree, normally my friend will ask me want Ori or OEM or Replica. And sometimes my friend suggested not to use Ori parts. like brake pad & Absorber coz third party brand better quality ?
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post Aug 2 2018, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ekash @ Aug 1 2018, 11:14 PM)
its 1.4 turbo is like hyundai 2.0 only... way lower than hyundai 1.6... sad to hear many bad news on hyundai...
but vw maintenance fee not cheap, looking at year 4 and 8 maintenance nearly triple than others i think.. since i stay in jam area, i thought its turbo will cause more fuel burning...
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Maintenances wise VW sure expensive than Japanese car. Depend on what type ppl u r, some ppl change car like change shirts. so no worries on this issue, before warranty end he already sell.
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QUOTE(Double K @ Aug 2 2018, 03:37 PM)
Maintenances wise VW sure expensive than Japanese car. Depend on what type ppl u r, some ppl change car like change shirts. so no worries on this issue, before warranty end he already sell.
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if like this then RV will play an important role in such case, unless the person is just too much cash to not bother how much cash he can get back if he sells the car under 5 years or less sweat.gif
not so sure about VW Tiguan RV...
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I vote for
Honda CRV for its space, practicality and peace of mind
Peugeot 3008 for its look
new proton for it price value and spec

the rest...not interested

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post Aug 2 2018, 05:09 PM

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In Taiwan, there was some serious issue with Mazda diesel engine, oil pump failure caused by timing chain / sprocket, no oil flushed up to combustion chamber => engine failure.

Appear to occur after 100k km mileage. Beware ya wink.gif

https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=276&t=5472726&p=8
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QUOTE(Double K @ Aug 2 2018, 03:26 PM)
Yeah true & agree, normally my friend will ask me want Ori or OEM or Replica. And sometimes my friend suggested not to use Ori parts. like brake pad & Absorber coz third party brand better quality ?
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You buy third party/aftermarket parts if you know what you are doing. If not, just stick to original parts for critical components, especially the brakes and suspension as those keep your car steady on the move and on the stop!
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post Aug 2 2018, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lion Cut @ Aug 2 2018, 04:27 PM)
I vote for
Honda CRV for its space, practicality and peace of mind
Peugeot 3008 for its look
new proton for it price value and spec

the rest...not interested
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QUOTE(amdxp @ Aug 2 2018, 05:09 PM)
In Taiwan, there was some serious issue with Mazda diesel engine, oil pump failure caused by timing chain / sprocket, no oil flushed up to combustion chamber => engine failure.

Appear to occur after 100k km mileage.  Beware ya wink.gif

https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=276&t=5472726&p=8
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Thanks yaaa
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post Aug 2 2018, 10:13 PM

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Can consider Nissan Qashqai. With a 2.0L turbocharged engine. Cheap servicing and spare parts. Low petrol consumption. Downside is the ride not as smooth and comfy as continental cars.

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