Chill folks, chill.

Now I haven't watched that talk but if I'm not mistaken, I don't think she's advocating for pedo behavior. She's just pointing out that the attraction just happens and that people don't have control over it. She's not saying that its right for people to act on it.

The problem with pedo is that its such a sensitive topic that people just go batshit when its mentioned instead of trying to discuss it rationally.

Prime example of someone who didn't watch the video and just taking things at face value.

Did you actually even watch the vid? Cos I just did.

Here, let me summarize for you lazy k-tards.

- She does NOT advocate for child abuse.

- She points out that not all pedophiles abuse children. In fact, only 20% of child abuse cases are committed by pedo. The other 80%? Non-pedos. Curious stat, no?

- She says there is scientific proof that pedos aren't likely to change in sexual orientation. Where she got this from, I dunno. Not mentioned. Would like to see the study myself.

- When she says there needs to be more open acceptance of pedos, it does not mean we should let them have sex with kids. What she means is that we should not judge them just for their sexual orientation alone. It wasn't their choice. They are actually aware it is wrong and they don't want it.

- She says we need to be more accepting of them so that we can help them in order to prevent potential child abuse. Because a pedo who is alone and has no one to talk to and feels isolated from society is more likely to actually abuse a kid.

- She is suggesting that as long as a pedo is willing to be helped and does not actually want to harm a child, we should not judge them just for coming out in the open and seeking help, which is what we seem to be doing now. Just like you guys - mere mention of the word and start throwing brickbats. She is suggesting there is a more productive way of helping these people instead of isolating them.

Don't just take my word for this. Go watch the vid.

She never said give them a child also. If she got, please point out which portion of the vid. I might have missed it.

What I got from it is that as long as both he and we all are aware, we can still help him be a productive member of society by keeping him out of unsupervised contact with children. And she mentioned something about prescribing medication.

I never heard any mention about castration or giving them a child.

She has a point. Better we know who they are so we can keep an eye on them as compared to condemning from the start so they stay hidden. But the only way they will be willing to come out about it is if society isn't going to pre-judge them negatively for it.

As long as they have done nothing wrong, are aware that it is wrong, and actually want to be helped so they don't end up harming a child, than I actually think her idea is feasible.

Tolong lar watch the vid, or read my summary. At no point did she say its alright also.

And can it with the SJW nonsense lar. She's not advocating for their sexual orientation or kiddy porn or whatever. She's suggesting that we can try to help them instead. There is a big difference between her and that Singaporean idiot who actually thinks its OK. Very big difference.

I'm just summarizing. I also think her idea is very controversial and not likely to find widespread acceptance or traction. But I don't think its wrong. Its an interesting point that is worthy of debate...a mature debate but I don't think that's possible in /k.

I don't believe she suggested, at any point, that we accept their orientation to the point where we let them have sex with kids. She's just saying that its something that is pre-determined and can't be changed.

She also said herself there is no solution to address sexual orientation. But that's also not the point. She's not suggesting that we try to fix them. She's just suggesting that we help those who want to be helped so that they can keep their instincts under control. Those who don't want to be helped...yeah lar...condemn those lar...

Its seems that what you would prefer is to fix them, but unless you actually do have a cure for this...well, you'll be filthy rich. By her estimate, 1-2% of all men out there are pedos if closeted. Might seem like a small % but that's in the millions. There's quite a lot of money to be made if you have a fix.

Y'know, I specifically picked you guys to respond to cos I thought you guys might be more reasonable than the majority of /ktards based on your posting history. Don't disappoint me lar...

Belum attack a child want to put on a list somewhere already?

Her point here is that not all pedos out there want to abuse children. Her given example was 'Jonas' who actually knows its wrong and does not want to act on it. He's condemned himself to live a very lonely life and never have a meaningful relationship ever.

If we condemn Jonas right from the start, he won't even dare to speak up about it. He's going to feel isolated from society. And the danger here is that someone who is isolated and rejected from society is more likely to commit child abuse.

But if we are more accepting of Jonas from the start (mind you, a reminder that this does not involve letting him have sex with kids) and recognize the situation he is in, we can perhaps help him to be a more productive member of society and help him to keep his desires under control.

That is the one and only point she is trying to make. Anything else further, its your own interpretation. Don't tokok tambah or try to add to it please, else the discussion will go on forever as we keep changing the subject. Just focus on that one point.

But overall, I think its a controversial topic. Not likely to find widespread acceptance. Difficult to put into practice cos it requires overcoming a lot of prejudices. But I don't think her idea is entirely wrong.

Looks like you didn't watch the video. Either that or you didn't comprehend. You disappoint me.

She has the exact same understanding on pedo as you do. You want to have sex with her kid, she'll call the police on you.

She's not saying its a sexual orientation because we need to enable them. She's just saying that it is so because there is no solution for it, such has how there is no solution for someone being gay.

BUT...before we get further into this, I would also like to point out that I'm not too sure myself. I also think you might be right in that it could be a mental disorder. I'm just trying to clarify her standpoint. But the fact remains is there is no wonder-drug to cure this. There is a drug out there that suppresses sexual desire though but that's not really a cure. It might be the medication that she's referring to though.

Technically, classifying it as a mental condition might even be beneficial cos than the cost of the drug can be covered by insurance.

Anyway, I think I shouldn't post anymore. Scared /k say I'm a pedo rights advocate like that Singaporean idiot.

I'm afraid that I have to agree with you that its a badly presented talk, else there won't be so much controversy or misunderstanding about it.

Although in /k's case, its just cos they are bodo, but it seems she's attracting controversy outside of /k even, so...

I know I said I shouldn't post any further but I'm going to chime in here.

I don't think she's suggesting that we accept it as natural. She did give aan example with 'Jonas' (likely not real name). Jonas is sexually attracted to 6-12 year old. He knows its wrong. He does not want to act on it cos he does not actually want to harm a child.

She's suggesting that we should differentiate between a pedo and an actual child abuser. The latter has actually hurt children. The former is merely attracted to children but they might not want to actually hurt children. But yes, zero tolerance policy to those who have actually molested children.

People like Jonas actually want to find a way out. But the problem is society is so prejudiced against him in the first place that he can't even speak out and this isolates him.

Now I do now know whether we can or cannot cure Jonas. whyamiblack seems to think there might be a possibility and I'm not going to argue with that. It would be ideal if it could.

But at the very least, we should be more accepting of Jonas so that he feels safe to be able to come out and seek help. You don't have to accept that he is attracted to children, but perhaps we can accept that Jonas knows its wrong and is trying to keep it under control. This, by itself, markedly differentiates Jonas from that guy who married a kid and is going 'apa sarahan saya?'.

This is something society is not even willing to do in the first place, which is what I think the speaker is suggesting is a problem.

The point in bold is exactly it. If you ask me, whether or not they are born that way, its natural or not, is actually kinda beside the point and shouldn't have been brought up.

The main takeaway of her talk is that society shouldn't automatically react with disgust or revulsion should someone like Jonas step forth, else they might not even be willing to seek help at all.

This, I feel, is a very good point.

The thing is I don't think Amos has actually had sex with any kids yet. Or at least I hope the girl he had sex with (so he claims) isn't underage but she's supposedly a uni student so she shouldn't have been.

He is making the wrong sort of noise about it though. But yet its one thing to just say it should be OK to do it as compared to actually doing it.

Anyway, I can't be bothered to follow him anymore. It amused me to see him trolling the Singaporean PAP govt, but now that he's gone full retard...