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terradrive
post Jul 31 2018, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 31 2018, 02:08 PM)
If you read my earlier post, it is a "recommendation". It is a recommendation for future games.  You jump in and say Monster Hunter supports 2-3GB graphic card.

And you also said if he uses GTX 1060 3GB as stop gap and get a whole better system after half a year. FYI, Core i9 and Z390 definitely will cost more. GTX 1160 definitely will launch after GTX 1180 and 1170 and there is no confirmed launch date. Kindly take note his target is Monster Hunter World and it is launching soon.

GTX 1070 spec on earlier post is already recommended. It is up to him whether if he wants to follow your proposed double upgrade or not.
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z390 core i7 will have 8 cores which is always better than 6 cores even if it has HT and should not be expensive like the i9 8 cores. Having better system after few months is not for future games?

Come on, its like a new camry is launching in half a year and you kept recommending people to buy current going to be face obsolescence current camry that don’t have promotion!

and yes, it is TS’s choice since it is his money and also he know what of of urge that he wants now

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jul 31 2018, 02:14 PM
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post Jul 31 2018, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 31 2018, 02:11 PM)
z390 core i7 will have 8 cores which is always better than 6 cores even if it has HT and should not be expensive like the i9 8 cores. Having better system after few months is not for future games?

Come on, its like a new camry is launching in half a year and you kept recommending people to buy current going to be face obsolescence current camry that don’t have promotion!

and yes, it is TS’s choice since it is his money and also he know what of of urge that he wants now
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Like I said, 8 core version will cost more. Especially when Intel beats AMD. We dont know how much budget or how often TS upgrades (also depends on his patience if he wants everything bettet future proofing). Default will be always minimal. I definitely will recommend better future proofing if possible. GTX 11 is still rumor mill.

Well, that depends on people. What I see here is majority dont upgrade often.
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post Jul 31 2018, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 31 2018, 02:20 PM)
Like I said, 8 core version will cost more. Especially when Intel beats AMD. We dont know how much budget or how often TS upgrades (also depends on his patience if he wants everything bettet future proofing). Default will be always minimal. I definitely will recommend better future proofing if possible. GTX 11 is still rumor mill.

Well, that depends on people. What I see here is majority dont upgrade often.
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FIRST - In case you don’t know, there are two 8 core intel z390 CPUs, i7 8 cores without HT and i9 8 cores with HT. i7 8 cores without HT is targeted at the same price range with 8700k, and you say it is more expensive? facepalm

SECOND - 11 series announcement is confirmed on August 20, and you say rumor mill?

Lazy to argue with you anymore, only think yourself is right.
if people don’t upgrade often, you still tell them to buy parts facing obsolescence???

IGN did a test, monster hunter world, 1080p High settings on GTX980 and gets around 60fps. Unless you play on 144Hz, 1440p or 4K, why would you build a high end system to play with 1080p 60Hz monitors?

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post Jul 31 2018, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 31 2018, 02:23 PM)
FIRST - In case you don’t know, there are two 8 core intel z390 CPUs, i7 8 cores without HT and i9 8 cores with HT. i7 8 cores without HT is targeted at the same price range with 8700k, and you say it is more expensive? facepalm

SECOND - 11 series announcement is confirmed on August 20, and you say rumor mill?

Lazy to argue with you anymore, only think yourself is right.
if people don’t upgrade often, you still tell them to buy parts facing obsolescence???

IGN did a test, monster hunter world, 1080p High settings on GTX980 and gets around 60fps. Unless you play on 144Hz, 1440p or 4K, why would you build a high end system to play with 1080p 60Hz monitors?
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Oh, I do know. Does Intel ever tried to get cheaper for new stuffs these days? Current i5 or Ryzen 5 is also sweet spot for price/performance on gaming.

Yeah, my bad. The news came out today with the announcement.

Who says it is obselete? I think GTX 1060 6GB or GTX 1070 should be fine for some time with 1080p. Please see TS' budget.

FYI, GTX 980 = GTX 1060


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post Aug 2 2018, 09:48 AM

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I suggest to wait until 11 Series is announced and released - current 10 series GPU prices will drop by then.

Also, it is advisable to buy > 6gb memory GPU these days for future proofing. A lot of games right now utilize > 3gb at max settings.
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post Aug 11 2018, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(IvankaChin @ Jul 25 2018, 06:58 PM)
Hi guys, I'm planning to upgrade my old PC, but computer shop boss tell me, my spec is too old, can't migrate, better build a new rig.
really? confused.gif
current spec
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How's the game doing on your rig? Did you get a new GPU in the end?

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post Aug 11 2018, 11:54 PM

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I'm more curious about the PSU you are using. if it's lousy unit, i suggest upgrade that as well.
as for now, u can just do a GPU upgrade first.
if NOW:
1060 6gb 1.2k approximately
Zotac GTX 1070 mini 1699
Zotac/Gigabyte/Galax 1070Ti 19xx

or wait for next gen

CPU shouldn't be a concern unless you observed it to be underwhelming in comparison to other similar system with the same GPU but different CPU. then, you can decide whether you want to spend for CPU upgrade.
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post Aug 12 2018, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Aug 11 2018, 08:50 AM)
How's the game doing on your rig? Did you get a new GPU in the end?
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I waiting 11 Series released, my comp still able to play monster hunter, but quite laggy sweat.gif
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post Aug 12 2018, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(adrianccseng @ Aug 11 2018, 11:54 PM)
I'm more curious about the PSU you are using. if it's lousy unit, i suggest upgrade that as well.
as for now, u can just do a GPU upgrade first.
if NOW:
1060 6gb 1.2k approximately
Zotac GTX 1070 mini 1699
Zotac/Gigabyte/Galax 1070Ti 19xx

or wait for next gen

CPU shouldn't be a concern unless you observed it to be underwhelming in comparison to other similar system with the same GPU but different CPU. then, you can decide whether you want to spend for CPU upgrade.
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I still hesitate, now is good timing to build new rig? if next month SST start, All hardware price might be increase hmm.gif
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post Aug 12 2018, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Jul 31 2018, 10:07 AM)
lol i have the same cpu.

When youre able, can TS update your status on your decision and perhaps MHW performance? I'm curious..

anyway for 4k budget i will definitely wait until the next gen graphics card.. but im not a big MHW fans so biggrin.gif
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I still hesitate, waiting new gen graphics release first biggrin.gif
now my pc is able to play MHW, but laggy rclxub.gif
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post Aug 12 2018, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(ChairmanDrew @ Jul 31 2018, 07:32 AM)
You do realise game requirements are always overstated? i5 4400 is only 0.2ghz slower than i5 4460. It will make next to no difference.
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post Aug 13 2018, 06:54 AM

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You may also notice they listed the speed of the i5 4460 incorrectly as 3.2, so technically you are over the requirements anyway ;-)

Your GPU however is well under.

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post Aug 13 2018, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(IvankaChin @ Aug 12 2018, 04:42 PM)
I still hesitate, waiting new gen graphics release first  biggrin.gif
now my pc is able to play MHW, but laggy rclxub.gif
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Yeah better wait, supposedly they are coming soon and real powerful.

I have the same CPU and with a RX480 still stutters with 2016 Forza Horizon 3 at 1080p. CPU is bottlenecking some games thou i cant justify spending just for one two games..

Well until Cyberpunk has a release date...zzz
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post Aug 13 2018, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(IvankaChin @ Aug 12 2018, 04:42 PM)
I still hesitate, waiting new gen graphics release first  biggrin.gif
now my pc is able to play MHW, but laggy rclxub.gif
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Good call. Don’t let puny SST scare you.
That 10% tax may very well be offset by 30% price cut.

 

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