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TSjwrx
post May 25 2007, 10:08 AM, updated 19y ago

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Need help from the warriors here, my guild has been downing Prince(proper way) with no issues for a few weeks now, the problem is that our 2 semi fury warriors are doing disgusting dps on Prince, at times less then the MT

Any help on dps cycles? or any advice that can help them?

our rogues have no problems, they can be among top 3 even with running in and out of the shadow nova
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post May 25 2007, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(jwrx @ May 25 2007, 10:08 AM)
Need help from the warriors here, my guild has been downing Prince(proper way) with no issues for a few weeks now, the problem is that our 2 semi fury warriors are doing disgusting dps on Prince, at times less then the MT

Any help on dps cycles? or any advice that can help them?

our rogues have no problems, they can be among top 3 even with running in and out of the shadow nova
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lowest "noobcake" requirement for fury is dual wield, 10% hit, 20% crit. the "not suck" requirement is somewhere around 20% hit 30% crit. its very demanding on gear.

if you cant meet it, stick to MS. even if you suck, you can at least buff 4% dps for rogue/hunter/warriors/feral druis and MT aggro etc.
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post May 25 2007, 10:32 AM

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What does semi fury mean anyway? would my 8/5/48 spec count as semi-fury. If so your warriors need to respec for dps!

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post May 25 2007, 01:51 PM

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Sounds pretty bad if "dps" warriors cannot overtake the MT. Cant see a good reason why a reasonably skilled warrior, specced for the DPS (fury or even MS) cant overtake the MT unless they are standing at distance and plinking away with their range weapons.

In fact the main problem for DPS warriors isn't causing too little damage - its causing too much (and having no threat reducing talents) and pulling aggro.

Sounds like one or more of:
a) They do not have the optimum spec for DPS
b) They do not know how to use their spec for DPS
c) They were drunk when the raid engaged the boss*

* We have one Rogue who occasionally seems to be mildly drunk but doesn't affect his raid performance - just more entertaining Vent chat.

Might be helpful to check their melee stats to see what sort of numbers they have, e.g. crit %, damage range, AP, hit%. It isn't particularly hard to do good DPS as a fury warrior if you have the right melee values - I would think it takes more concentration to optimize the damage output for rogues, especially dagger rogues.


This post has been edited by limsk: May 25 2007, 02:04 PM
Kurei
post May 25 2007, 02:41 PM

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sry but hahahaha. Can u link their armory plsssssssss.
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post May 25 2007, 04:03 PM

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LoL. Must be a prot warrior but flurry wanna be & try to do dps in defensive stance.


*just my 2 cents
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post May 25 2007, 05:06 PM

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lets see.... warriors need to hit stuff to get rage....
rogues energy will keep refilling even you're moving...
and da boss hits so hard on your mt you have almost unlimited rage to keep up heroic strike the whole fight

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post May 29 2007, 09:00 AM

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Whether the tank have unlimited rage or not, a DPS class should NOT pass a tank on DPS, he should in fact be way ahead of the MT. I'm a MT myself and there are many times where the DPS is below me, or only slightly higher than me. This usually happen to pugs so I dont bother, but if it happens in my raid we will sit down and talk about it, then we can see improvements and now some of these ppl are topping me by a ton, not much change in gears too.
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post May 29 2007, 11:23 AM

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=o

very weird... if one dood only maybe that person is under geared or sumthin.. but 2?

I DPS/Offtank for my guild oso ... takde la so bad until kenot overtake tank ;p

TSjwrx
post May 30 2007, 09:52 AM

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yea, its cos of quite a few issues, unlike casters or rogues whos mana/rage bar recharges, warriors dun get rage when running away at Prince during enfeeble

Also, with Prince focusing on the MT, the dps warriors dun get hit much, again gimping thier rage generation

I trolled the warrior forums, lotsa threads on warriors having alot of issues at Prince
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post May 31 2007, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE
What does semi fury mean anyway? would my 8/5/48 spec count as semi-fury. If so your warriors need to respec for dps!

Quoted because everyone is dying to know so that can advise laugh.gif

My cheap 2sen: they must focus on one single thing they wanna be good at and spec/gear totally to that end. Half past six = half past sux brows.gif
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post May 31 2007, 06:47 PM

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We love to give advice ...especially when unasked.

But dont ask if you dont want to hear the answer - this place can be ruthless heh smile.gif

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"Half past six = half past sux"


Good quote. Jack of all talent trees and master of none.

This post has been edited by limsk: May 31 2007, 06:52 PM
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post May 31 2007, 09:43 PM

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link to armory or your guild sux for picking those wars..lol

 

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